Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[jokesondee]

Im starting to think Chevy just adds a depth piece here or there but doesnt land any big fish. I get a feeling the team doesnt want to mess with the chemistry this team has.

 

[Jets 31]

Im starting to think Chevy just adds a depth piece here or there but doesnt land any big fish. I get a feeling the team doesnt want to mess with the chemistry this team has.

Just announce the Ehlers re-signing and pick up a couple of depth pieces and we are golden......

 

[voyageur]

Im starting to think Chevy just adds a depth piece here or there but doesnt land any big fish. I get a feeling the team doesnt want to mess with the chemistry this team has.

I think if Dallas picks up Seth Jones, with Harley already being a stud, Lindell being solid and Heiskanen looking like he might come back for playoffs, and some good depth now on defense with Lybushkin, Ceci and rookie Bischel, that Chevy might have to react, because Dallas looks pretty good for the playoffs especially if Seguin comes back too.

Mark Stone may have given Dallas an LTIR window to compete with the Knights, who have their own extra LTIR Cap space now to work with.

Those two teams I think set the bar that Chevy can't reach but has to at least try to compete with in some way if he legitimately wants to win.

I'm not as worried up front competitively but there is room for improvement to be able to mitigate injuries.

 

[DRW204]

Im starting to think Chevy just adds a depth piece here or there but doesnt land any big fish. I get a feeling the team doesnt want to mess with the chemistry this team has.

the names on the trade bait list for the most part are super underwhelming. rakell is intriguing though, with 3 years left though there's no urgency for PIT to move him.

 

[Whileee]

I think if Dallas picks up Seth Jones, with Harley already being a stud, Lindell being solid and Heiskanen looking like he might come back for playoffs, and some good depth now on defense with Lybushkin, Ceci and rookie Bischel, that Chevy might have to react, because Dallas looks pretty good for the playoffs especially if Seguin comes back too.

Mark Stone may have given Dallas an LTIR window to compete with the Knights, who have their own extra LTIR Cap space now to work with.

Those two teams I think set the bar that Chevy can't reach but has to at least try to compete with in some way if he legitimately wants to win.

I'm not as worried up front competitively but there is room for improvement to be able to mitigate injuries.

I agree that Chevy should try to improve the roster with some upgrades to the middle-6 forwards and D. However, if there aren't any suitable upgrades available then I think it's fine if he just picks up some secondary / depth players that can add depth and maybe an extra dimension. If they can't land a C like Nelson then I could see them adding a F like Evans or Donato if the price is reasonable. Maybe Gourde, if his injury isn't a concern.

With McAvoy having what looks like a serious injury the Bruins are probably cooked and will look to be sellers. That will add some options for buyers like the Jets. I could see the Jets having an interest in Frederic, mainly because Arniel would probably like a bit more size and snort on the 2nd line. Frederic might have a similar impact as Namestnikov, but would add more of a physical dimension to that line. He won't come cheap, though. Might the Bruins also put Marchand on the trade block? If so, there will be a lot of buyers lining up, and that might actually make other players less expensive. With so few top teams having a 1st this year, I don't think many of the top rentals are going to command a 1st this year.

 

[Weezeric]

I agree that Chevy should try to improve the roster with some upgrades to the middle-6 forwards and D. However, if there aren't any suitable upgrades available then I think it's fine if he just picks up some secondary / depth players that can add depth and maybe an extra dimension. If they can't land a C like Nelson then I could see them adding a F like Evans or Donato if the price is reasonable. Maybe Gourde, if his injury isn't a concern.

With McAvoy having what looks like a serious injury the Bruins are probably cooked and will look to be sellers. That will add some options for buyers like the Jets. I could see the Jets having an interest in Frederic, mainly because Arniel would probably like a bit more size and snort on the 2nd line. Frederic might have a similar impact as Namestnikov, but would add more of a physical dimension to that line. He won't come cheap, though. Might the Bruins also put Marchand on the trade block? If so, there will be a lot of buyers lining up, and that might actually make other players less expensive. With so few top teams having a 1st this year, I don't think many of the top rentals are going to command a 1st this year.

A line of Frederic-Lowry-Nino would be an absolute nightmare to play against.

 

[Whileee]

A line of Frederic-Lowry-Nino would be an absolute nightmare to play against.

I kind of think we're more likely to see the following (if they acquire Frederic):

Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Frederic-Perfetti/Iafallo
Nino-Lowry-Appleton
Barron-Namestnikov/Kupari-Perfetti/Iafallo

If the Jets went with Kupari at 4C, they would be very big and hard to play against down the middle... overall, they would have a big F line-up.

 

[DRW204]

I kind of think we're more likely to see the following (if they acquire Frederic):

Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Frederic-Perfetti/Iafallo
Nino-Lowry-Appleton
Barron-Namestnikov/Kupari-Perfetti/Iafallo

If the Jets went with Kupari at 4C, they would be very big and hard to play against down the middle... overall, they would have a big F line-up.

frederic better than namestnikov? , frederic would likely be a 3rd or 4th liner on this team.

feel like he may be overvalued in a trade b/c grit and size. but he's not been effective this year, and seldom plays C it seems like.

if the Jets want more size in their 2nd line there's better options than frederic, including a couple on the team (ie: nino or lowry).

 

[jokesondee]

frederic better than namestnikov? , frederic would likely be a 3rd or 4th liner on this team.

feel like he may be overvalued in a trade b/c grit and size. but he's not been effective this year, and seldom plays C it seems like.

if the Jets want more size in their 2nd line there's better options than frederic, including a couple on the team (ie: nino or lowry).

Bruins fan hate him

 

[surixon]

I kind of think we're more likely to see the following (if they acquire Frederic):

Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Frederic-Perfetti/Iafallo
Nino-Lowry-Appleton
Barron-Namestnikov/Kupari-Perfetti/Iafallo

If the Jets went with Kupari at 4C, they would be very big and hard to play against down the middle... overall, they would have a big F line-up.

Frederic has 15 points this year. I am not sure he's at all an upgrade in our top 9.

I could see him in Appelton's spot but not sure he has the talent for the second line.

 

[DRW204]

Bruins fan hate him

so we should have him in our top-6?

 

[Whileee]

Frederic has 15 points this year. I am not sure he's at all an upgrade in our top 9.

I could see him in Appelton's spot but not sure he has the talent for the second line.

Frederic gets no PP time and has been playing mostly with offensive black holes like Brazeau and Kastelic. Still, he has more 5v5 goals and primary assists per 60 than Namestnikov, who plays mainly with Ehlers and Perfetti.

Over the past 3 seasons, Frederic has been considerably more productive offensively than Namestnikov at 5v5.

Considering his usage, Frederic has actually been driving offense at 5v5 this season, but he's playing with wingers that are not offensively skilled.

 

[DRW204]

Frederic gets no PP time and has been playing mostly with offensive black holes like Brazeau and Kastelic. Still, he has more 5v5 goals and primary assists per 60 than Namestnikov, who plays mainly with Ehlers and Perfetti.
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Over the past 3 seasons, Frederic has been considerably more productive offensively than Namestnikov at 5v5.
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Considering his usage, Frederic has actually been driving offense at 5v5 this season, but he's playing with wingers that are not offensively skilled.

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brazeau and kastelic have better scoring rates than perfetti.
if you want to use that as a discounter to frederic - how would namestnikov's (and ehlers) assissts and points look like if they had a winger who had more than 4 goals at 5v5 in 56 gp?

 

[jokesondee]

so we should have him in our top-6?

No, i dont want him at all.

 

[CanMerc]

Jets definitely need a 2C and D depth going into the playoffs…the regular season and playoffs are completely different kinds of hockey and this team as it is isn’t built for the playoffs…having bottom 6Cs play 2C or wingers playing 2C is not a recipe for a Cup.
Meh moves like Frederic, McCann, Risto, etc…do nothing to make this team actual contenders.
It’s looking more and more like this year is building year for a run next year or the year after…that or Chevy better get his ass in gear and start focusing on the actual issues and stop wasting time with what we don’t need.
Yes it’s hard to get what we need, but that doesn’t change the fact that we need it.

 

[Whileee]

The positive experience with the Ehlers-Lowry combination might encourage the Jets to look for a Lowry-type C for that 2nd line, if they can't acquire Nelson, ROR or another top forward. That's where a forward like Frederic might fit. But he is going to be fairly costly (maybe as much as a 1st + prospect / young player, I would think) and he's only a rental at this point.

 

[Whileee]

Jets definitely need a 2C and D depth going into the playoffs…the regular season and playoffs are completely different kinds of hockey and this team as it is isn’t built for the playoffs…having bottomed play 2C or wingers playing 2C is not a recipe for a Cup.
Meh moves like Frederic, McCann, Risto, etc…do nothing to make this team actual contenders.
It’s looking more and more like this year is building year for a run next year or the year after…that or Chevy better get his ass in gear

I'm pretty sure that Chevy has been active in assessing the trade market and has a pretty clear idea of who's available and what the current asking prices are. The problem is that it's not a very deep pool of available players on the market, and it's further restricted by NTC/NMC that put the Jets out of the running for some available players.

My guess is that we'll see the market jump to life after the 4 Nations finale, and I expect that Chevy will be active. I just don't know if the market is conducive to a top-end acquisition this year.

 

[CanMerc]

I'm pretty sure that Chevy has been active in assessing the trade market and has a pretty clear idea of who's available and what the current asking prices are. The problem is that it's not a very deep pool of available players on the market, and it's further restricted by NTC/NMC that put the Jets out of the running for some available players.

My guess is that we'll see the market jump to life after the 4 Nations finale, and I expect that Chevy will be active. I just don't know if the market is conducive to a top-end acquisition this year.

When is that 4 nations thing over

 

[DRW204]

No, i dont want him at all.

oh ok. not sure why you're quoting my post then lol.
but yea, he seems like more of a bottom-6 guy who may go closer to a top-6 price. if the Jets want more grit/size in their 2nd line, lowry or nino would be suitable options. and you can find a 3rd liner to replace them a bit easier. this team is undefeated w/o lowry so not overly concerned of a 3rd line w/o lowry.

 

[Gm0ney]

so we should have him in our top-6?

Boston doesn't even have Frederik in their Top 6. Not sure why the best team in the league would want him there.

He doesn't score. He's got 15 points and a per game rate of 0.27.

He also isn't good at faceoffs. 43% is even worse than Names 45%. And Names is the worst regular faceoff taker on the Jets. I'm not even sure he plays C full time in Boston (he's 7th in total number of faceoffs). He was last seen on the wing according to Dailyfaceoff.

He doesn't really kill penalties either. Just 24 minutes on the PK this year.

He does take penalties however! His 1.25 penalties/60 would put him second only to Logan Stanley, who's penchant for putting the Jets shorthanded has made him the darling of Jets fans everywhere. His penalty differential is -6 which would put him near the bottom on the Jets as well.

But...he hits!

So to summarize, Frederik doesn't score, doesn't win faceoffs, maybe doesn't play C full time, doesn't kill penalties, and definitely takes a lot of penalties. But he hits. Sounds like just what the Jets need!

 

[10Ducky10]

It’s looking more and more like this year is building year for a run next year or the year after…that or Chevy better get his ass in gear and start focusing on the actual issues and stop wasting time with what we don’t need.
Yes it’s hard to get what we need, but that doesn’t change the fact that we need it.

Fourth place overall last year and first place this year and they are building for a run for next year or the year after? That's some serious main board stuff there.

Well he just came out of 4 Nations, and out of the 14 goals scored against Finland he was on for 2 and one was a trap pass from Barkov into his feet. He was on for 2 goals for including the only one against the U.S. they scored and the GTG against the Swedes. None either way in the Canada game.

His PK metrics are close to Samberg's with similar ice time. He'd be tops on the Jets in shot blocks.

And he has 2 Stanley Cup rings for playoff experience.

Seeing as you didn't dispute what I said you must agree?
He is a slow inconsistent soft defenseman.

 

[voyageur]

I agree that Chevy should try to improve the roster with some upgrades to the middle-6 forwards and D. However, if there aren't any suitable upgrades available then I think it's fine if he just picks up some secondary / depth players that can add depth and maybe an extra dimension. If they can't land a C like Nelson then I could see them adding a F like Evans or Donato if the price is reasonable. Maybe Gourde, if his injury isn't a concern.

With McAvoy having what looks like a serious injury the Bruins are probably cooked and will look to be sellers. That will add some options for buyers like the Jets. I could see the Jets having an interest in Frederic, mainly because Arniel would probably like a bit more size and snort on the 2nd line. Frederic might have a similar impact as Namestnikov, but would add more of a physical dimension to that line. He won't come cheap, though. Might the Bruins also put Marchand on the trade block? If so, there will be a lot of buyers lining up, and that might actually make other players less expensive. With so few top teams having a 1st this year, I don't think many of the top rentals are going to command a 1st this year.

I think the fact this is considered a weak draft, the teams that were out of the race that had players they knew weren't coming back took the 1st they could get (Pitt, .S.J.).

Many of the teams traded their 1st long ahead of this season. Toronto's was used in the Mc Cabe trade, Tampa's in the Jeannot trade. Florida's for Tkachuk. Calgary's to dump Monahan. Markstrom was offseason. Same with Askarov, which was Vegas's pick traded for Hertl. Edmonton gave up theirs this year for the right to draft Sam O'Reilly at the last draft. Colorado used theirs to rid of Johansen and bring in Walker as a key rental last year.

Minnesota went in with the Jericek acquistion that took multiple picks, but has a potential reward with the player still in his ELC.

I think the serious bidders now would put their 2026 1st on the table, in what seems to be a better draft, and less protected by current standings. Or a top prospect.

I still think Marchand goes to Tampa, buoyed by the 4 Nations experience. Nelson to Minnesota, after playing with Boldy for part of the tourney. Schenn I expect to end up in Vegas, centering Mark Stone. Jones I think is heading home to Dallas. All those trades could involve 2026 1st or top prospects.

Where that leaves the Jets...we'll see. Does Philly want a 4th 1st rounder in this draft for Scott Laughton? Do the Jets want Laughton? He seems happy in Philly, and probably would be happier going to TO than here.

I still don't think Frederic is welcome here (Evans either for that matter). I'd consider a 1st for Morgan Geekie, if he was on the market, because I honestly don't think the Jets have enough firepower with Mason Appleton having one career playoff goal in 19 games as a top 9 forward, and Geekie could be at the very least a right winger on Lowry's line, with the potential to move up if either Vlad or Cole struggle.

Vlad is the highest playoff goal scorer on that line, his 7 career playoff goals even come at a better ratio than Ehlers 4 goals (per number of games played). But let's hope this is Nik's year. Cole's too.

It's worth noting that the Jets organization has 97 career playoff goals among them, and 63 of them come from 4 players (Scheif, 21, Nino, 16, Connor, 15, and Lowry 11). Iafallo with his 5 goals in 21 games has the 3rd best ratio of playoff goals per games on the team, after the two big guns, which was a surprise to me.

So as a team there has to be some breakouts these playoffs. Including defense where 3 of our 4 top d-men still haven't registered a playoff goal, but there are 8 combined among Miller, Fleury and Stanley.

 

[gojetsgo]

if boston was selling the center I would want would be zacha, zero interest in frederic

 

[DRW204]

Boston doesn't even have Frederik in their Top 6. Not sure why the best team in the league would want him there.

He doesn't score. He's got 15 points and a per game rate of 0.27.

He also isn't good at faceoffs. 43% is even worse than Names 45%. And Names is the worst regular faceoff taker on the Jets. I'm not even sure he plays C full time in Boston (he's 7th in total number of faceoffs). He was last seen on the wing according to Dailyfaceoff.

He doesn't really kill penalties either. Just 24 minutes on the PK this year.

He does take penalties however! His 1.25 penalties/60 would put him second only to Logan Stanley, who's penchant for putting the Jets shorthanded has made him the darling of Jets fans everywhere. His penalty differential is -6 which would put him near the bottom on the Jets as well.

But...he hits!

So to summarize, Frederik doesn't score, doesn't win faceoffs, maybe doesn't play C full time, doesn't kill penalties, and definitely takes a lot of penalties. But he hits. Sounds like just what the Jets need!

yup. do not understand the infatuation with him at all.
he had a v good year last year, is he going to morph back into that all of a sudden and get us to a higher point than what the 2nd line has been w/ namestnikov . considering players like him sometimes get overvalued at the TDL, i hope the Jets pass.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

I don't mind Frederic at all. He was coming off a 40 point season, is a Right shot and has size and plays very physical. I don't think there bringing him in to play top 6. I bet he comes in and plays along side Lowry if anything and you drop Apples to the 4th line.

It depends on the cost really for him.

I also think that Parayko is a real trade target too. I also think Laughton and Risto are being eyed as well. I think the general consensus is the Jets want to be hard to play against come playoff time