Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Gm0ney]

Besides Corsi, Stanley and Miller are nearly identical statistically.

This is where Olli Maata as an acquisition would make some sense, because he's the only guy who could make either of them a #6/7.

One thing I noticed is the only other minus player on the Jets besides Haydn Fleury is Rasmus Kupari. And that is contrasted by David Gustafsson being +8 now. Since Lowry's injury he's got on the scoreboard, and that might have something to do with Alex Iafallo being more of an offensive catalyst than Mason Appleton.

Which is something to watch when everyone comes back after this tourney.

Miller's probably the better player since he's good both with and without Stanley and, while Stanley+Miller has been a decent 3rd pair, Stanley without Miller has not been very good.

 

[Thechozen1]

Besides Corsi, Stanley and Miller are nearly identical statistically.

This is where Olli Maata as an acquisition would make some sense, because he's the only guy who could make either of them a #6/7.

One thing I noticed is the only other minus player on the Jets besides Haydn Fleury is Rasmus Kupari. And that is contrasted by David Gustafsson being +8 now. Since Lowry's injury he's got on the scoreboard, and that might have something to do with Alex Iafallo being more of an offensive catalyst than Mason Appleton.

Which is something to watch when everyone comes back after this tourney.

Would love it if the JETS could get Maatta!!!!

 

[Buffdog]

Besides Corsi, Stanley and Miller are nearly identical statistically.

This is where Olli Maata as an acquisition would make some sense, because he's the only guy who could make either of them a #6/7.

One thing I noticed is the only other minus player on the Jets besides Haydn Fleury is Rasmus Kupari. And that is contrasted by David Gustafsson being +8 now. Since Lowry's injury he's got on the scoreboard, and that might have something to do with Alex Iafallo being more of an offensive catalyst than Mason Appleton.

Which is something to watch when everyone comes back after this tourney.

Honestly, by almost every metric, Stanley - Miller is an OK bottom pairing

Aside from Samberg - Pionk, all pairings are negative CF%

I'd still like to upgrade for the playoffs, but they're fine for now

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

That seems a little drastic, as the 2nd line is clicking. But if Arniel goes back to Lowry between Nino and Apples which was obviously working better with him than with Kupari maybe Iafallo-Gus-Kupari as the 4th line if Barron is still out?

Would be interesting to see the comparispn between ehlers-lowry-iafallo and ehlers-names-perfetti

All i know is that names slows our fourth line down a bit too much... but hes been a solid 2C... so there are complicated decisions coming when everyone is healthy

Still like the idea of a first line, shutdown line and two scoring speed units...

Ehlers-lowry-iafallo
Nino-kupari/names-perfetti
Barron-gus-apples

Use gus line as our shutdown and see if they can get it done

 

[voyageur]

Would be interesting to see the comparispn between ehlers-lowry-iafallo and ehlers-names-perfetti

All i know is that names slows our fourth line down a bit too much... but hes been a solid 2C... so there are complicated decisions coming when everyone is healthy

Still like the idea of a first line, shutdown line and two scoring speed units...

Ehlers-lowry-iafallo
Nino-kupari/names-perfetti
Barron-gus-apples

Use gus line as our shutdown and see if they can get it done

Interesting idea. But I still think Adam Lowry is the shutdown center no matter what line he is on. With Ehlers instead of Appleton the opportunity for more offense exists for sure.

 

[Whileee]

Today on SN Arniel referred favourably to the Nino-Lowry-Appleton and Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti lines. He didn't sound like someone likely to shuffle those Cs any time soon.

 

[surixon]

Today on SN Arniel referred favourably to the Nino-Lowry-Appleton and Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti lines. He didn't sound like someone likely to shuffle those Cs any time soon.

I don't see any need to change our top line at this point in time. I'd like to upgrade the fourth line and third pairing.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Would love it if the JETS could get Maatta!!!!

Utah was hanging around the WC race for much of the season. They have fallen back far enough now to be sellers. Utah paid a 3rd for him. Has his market value changed?

 

[DRW204]

How do you feel about Cole Perfetti then who has gone 9 games without registering a point as compared to a season long 5 games for Vlad?

Upgrade on either would be welcomed in my view. Neither have been consistent or reliable top 6 options offensively this year.

They were playing well the past couple weeks and are in a midst of a heater, so maybe they're turning it around. Would need to see more for sure.
However, most of the commentary this season has been the lack of scoring reliability and consistency on the second line. Those 2 are both at the bottom of the top9 regulars in scoring rates.

It is easier to find a winger than center though. Their should be an abundance of wingers available and the C market is thin.

 

[KingBogo]

I think Chevy will look for any potential upgrade, whether it's at 2C, 3LD or 4RW (or anywhere else in the lineup). We're probably set at starting goalie though lol

I don't see any reason why Chevy wouldn't be somewhat active at the TDL. We are a good team, having a good season, but we are far from a juggernaut. We have some holes still and we will be in tough against the top tier teams. By all reports the upcoming draft is pretty week, so our 1st should be in play IMO, since it will be in the late 1st which probably makes it more equivalent to an early to mid 2nd round pick in a stronger draft class. I think Chevy surprises with a big swing.

 

[Whileee]

I don't see any reason why Chevy wouldn't be somewhat active at the TDL. We are a good team, having a good season, but we are far from a juggernaut. We have some holes still and we will be in tough against the top tier teams. By all reports the upcoming draft is pretty week, so our 1st should be in play IMO, since it will be in the late 1st which probably makes it more equivalent to an early to mid 2nd round pick in a stronger draft class. I think Chevy surprises with a big swing.

I think Chevy would certainly be ready to make a big swing but it really depends on which players might be available to the Jets. So far, I haven't seen any reports of top-notch players being available, and a few have NTCs that might limit Chevy's options.

 

[KingBogo]

I think Chevy would certainly be ready to make a big swing but it really depends on which players might be available to the Jets. So far, I haven't seen any reports of top-notch players being available, and a few have NTCs that might limit Chevy's options.

Chevy always does seem to have a way of doing things a little off the radar that a lot of people don't see coming.

 

[voyageur]

Utah was hanging around the WC race for much of the season. They have fallen back far enough now to be sellers. Utah paid a 3rd for him. Has his market value changed?

I think he'd be the top d-man that is potentially available. Dumoulin's name has been mentioned but Puckpedia now shows him with a partial NTC. I'm thinking 2nd at least, as a 20 minute a night defenseman with positive results in a lot of areas. Might get more given the market, unless some bigger fish get thrown in.

Upgrade on either would be welcomed in my view. Neither have been consistent or reliable top 6 options offensively this year.

They were playing well the past couple weeks and are in a midst of a heater, so maybe they're turning it around. Would need to see more for sure.
However, most of the commentary this season has been the lack of scoring reliability and consistency on the second line. Those 2 are both at the bottom of the top9 regulars in scoring rates.

It is easier to find a winger than center though. Their should be an abundance of wingers available and the C market is thin.

I keep circling back to Ryan Donato, who is maybe the closest thing to both available without an NTC. Going through his game logs, he's had decent results against all of our main Central division rivals, which has some weight I imagine. Just not sure how he would affect the current structure as he would knock one of the two players you speak of out of the top 6, but not necessarily improve the team chemistry, which is something that has taken awhile to develop.
.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I think he'd be the top d-man that is potentially available. Dumoulin's name has been mentioned but Puckpedia now shows him with a partial NTC. I'm thinking 2nd at least, as a 20 minute a night defenseman with positive results in a lot of areas. Might get more given the market, unless some bigger fish get thrown in.

I keep circling back to Ryan Donato, who is maybe the closest thing to both available without an NTC. Going through his game logs, he's had decent results against all of our main Central division rivals, which has some weight I imagine. Just not sure how he would affect the current structure as he would knock one of the two players you speak of out of the top 6, but not necessarily improve the team chemistry, which is something that has taken awhile to develop.
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I'd certainly pay more than a 3rd for Maatta if he would extend here. How about a 3rd + Stanley.

OK, OK, I know. Make it a 3rd + Ville then.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

Brandon Carlo is actually looking like a very legit solution to me... just need him to waive

Comrie and him played for tri city together. Get a furniture deal lined up bugeyes!!!

 

[DRW204]

I think he'd be the top d-man that is potentially available. Dumoulin's name has been mentioned but Puckpedia now shows him with a partial NTC. I'm thinking 2nd at least, as a 20 minute a night defenseman with positive results in a lot of areas. Might get more given the market, unless some bigger fish get thrown in.

I keep circling back to Ryan Donato, who is maybe the closest thing to both available without an NTC. Going through his game logs, he's had decent results against all of our main Central division rivals, which has some weight I imagine. Just not sure how he would affect the current structure as he would knock one of the two players you speak of out of the top 6, but not necessarily improve the team chemistry, which is something that has taken awhile to develop.
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Yeah Donato is putting the puck in the net this year. I don't think he has the name value to cost a ton either.

 

[ps241]

I think this year no matter what we add they need to be able to defend really well. No more goofy Toffoli type players that get us away from our identity.

Get assets that make us harder to play against like Nino. Guys that are physical, go to the dirty areas, and are very passionate about back pressure.

Our team has plenty of offence we need more playoff type players if we need anything

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Really think we should be giving gus a shot at 2C...

Pffft quit being so conservative!

Stanley at 2C or bust!

 

[Thechozen1]

Utah was hanging around the WC race for much of the season. They have fallen back far enough now to be sellers. Utah paid a 3rd for him. Has his market value changed?

I’d have no qualms about giving a 2nd in 2026 for him or a 3rd and 6th

 

[10Ducky10]

Why do people want Maata?
He is a slow skating, inconsistent D man that is soft.
He is consistent at losing board battles, though.
I wouldn't give a 5th for him.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

Why do people want Maata?
He is a slow skating, inconsistent D man that is soft.
He is consistent at losing board battles, though.
I wouldn't give a 5th for him.

Colin miller is better imo

 

[voyageur]

I think this year no matter what we add they need to be able to defend really well. No more goofy Toffoli type players that get us away from our identity.

Get assets that make us harder to play against like Nino. Guys that are physical, go to the dirty areas, and are very passionate about back pressure.

Our team has plenty of offence we need more playoff type players if we need anything

The Jets have 8 games left in their last 26 that should look like playoff games. 2 against the Canucks, 2 against the Oilers, 2 against the Stars and one against the Kings and Golden Knights.

For all the Jets scoring this year, they've put 2 on the board against Kings in 2 games. 4 against the Golden Showers in 2 games. Dallas was a blowout at home, rattling Oettinger, a struggle on the road, with only a single goal. Colorado the Jets put up 9 regular season goals in 4 games, for 3 Ws one in 3 on 3.

There's still going to be improvements for all the teams the Jets could meet in the playoffs at the deadline and Chevy has to analyze and at the very least try to match them.

Last year I think was a wakeup call that even regular season success guarantees nothing when it's only one team on the schedule with elimination on the line.

I think there's a mindset the Jets need to get to the next level. And like Aerosmith says you have to lose to learn how to win.

Counting on the PP to win games is no guarantee, but there has to be some optimism there.

Scoring playoff goals...who's got the experience? For some of these guys will be their 1st test. For others will be their last.

How much do the Jets need Helly to win a series? And can he mentally get back to the 2018 goalie that took the Jets to their greatest heights?

There is so much uncertainty that all these games can't dissipate until the Jets get over that hump. And Chevy and Arniel have to identify who have that ability.

I like your laid back approach to the season because it makes it more fun. But we all know it's about to get more serious.

 

[Moloch]

Chevy has definitely been cooking these past few weeks with the 4 nations break, he kinda alluded to getting some work done while it was happening so I'm hoping we see some trades or extensions announced soon..

gettin kinda boring around here

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

Chevy has definitely been cooking these past few weeks with the 4 nations break, he kinda alluded to getting some work done while it was happening so I'm hoping we see some trades or extensions announced soon..

gettin kinda boring around here

 

[voyageur]

Why do people want Maata?
He is a slow skating, inconsistent D man that is soft.
He is consistent at losing board battles, though.
I wouldn't give a 5th for him.

Well he just came out of 4 Nations, and out of the 14 goals scored against Finland he was on for 2 and one was a trap pass from Barkov into his feet. He was on for 2 goals for including the only one against the U.S. they scored and the GTG against the Swedes. None either way in the Canada game.

His PK metrics are close to Samberg's with similar ice time. He'd be tops on the Jets in shot blocks.

And he has 2 Stanley Cup rings for playoff experience.

Colin miller is better imo

Yet you want Carlo, lol. Bruins fans describe him as playing with head trauma. His PK metrics are close to Stanley's.

Lucky for both you guys looks like the Utah No Names are still competing for the playoffs. Doesn't sound like they have given up.

Their first game back from Four Nations will be their first of the season with all their defensemen healthy.

If the Jets had to go 50 games patching their defense without their #2, and half that without their #3, wouldn't be sitting so pretty.