Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Huffer]

I see no reason for McCann at all...he’s not a C and we don’t need any middle 6 LWs…hell we don’t need any LWs. Just a waste of assets to acquire and a waste of cap space.

He's not a guy a team would staple at Centre for sure, but he can play Centre if needed and provide that utility. That's a very nice option to have going into a playoff run. If he's on the wing and then a centre goes down in the middle of the game, he's a guy that can fill in.
I also don't necessarily look at it as "he's a LW and we don't need any more LW's". Both Ehlers and Nino can play on the right if needed. And we also don't know the long term situation with Ehlers. McCann brings some stability to the middle 6 if Ehlers walks.

The team can keep CSV together, and then you have guys like Ehlers, Names, Perfetti, Nino, Lowry, and say Mcann that you can mix and match in the middle 6, adding more scoring and moving Appleton down to the 4th. We've seen Ehlers, Nino, and Perfetti on both sides.

I like Bjorkstrand as well to add to that middle 6 so depending on cost he would be great too. What I like about adding McCann is he has a little more utility. He can play the wing, he can play centre in a pinch (I have not seen Seattle fans say he is barely adequate there, I've seen them say he's better as a winger which is fine), and he can PK.

If there is a true 2C available on the market, I'd really hope Chevy is in on it, but I'm not seeing it ATM. Nelson possibly, but that's also only a rental.

Cost, like everything is definitely a factor. The 2 1st round picks comment from a random youtuber is too rich. A 1st (ours will be late), and some other adds is reasonable IMO (other non 1sts, non top prospects).

 

[10Ducky10]

Me too. Still wouldnt mind him here and his value is at an all time low.

Why?

 

[jokesondee]

Why?

Potential. Big center that just turned 24 and was really playing well a couple years ago until he got hurt. Might just need a fresh start.

 

[SLAYER]

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But he was supposed to be the centerpiece for the PLD trade!

 

[CanMerc]

He's not a guy a team would staple at Centre for sure, but he can play Centre if needed and provide that utility. That's a very nice option to have going into a playoff run. If he's on the wing and then a centre goes down in the middle of the game, he's a guy that can fill in.
I also don't necessarily look at it as "he's a LW and we don't need any more LW's". Both Ehlers and Nino can play on the right if needed. And we also don't know the long term situation with Ehlers. McCann brings some stability to the middle 6 if Ehlers walks.

The team can keep CSV together, and then you have guys like Ehlers, Names, Perfetti, Nino, Lowry, and say Mcann that you can mix and match in the middle 6, adding more scoring and moving Appleton down to the 4th. We've seen Ehlers, Nino, and Perfetti on both sides.

I like Bjorkstrand as well to add to that middle 6 so depending on cost he would be great too. What I like about adding McCann is he has a little more utility. He can play the wing, he can play centre in a pinch (I have not seen Seattle fans say he is barely adequate there, I've seen them say he's better as a winger which is fine), and he can PK.

If there is a true 2C available on the market, I'd really hope Chevy is in on it, but I'm not seeing it ATM. Nelson possibly, but that's also only a rental.

Cost, like everything is definitely a factor. The 2 1st round picks comment from a random youtuber is too rich. A 1st (ours will be late), and some other adds is reasonable IMO (other non 1sts, non top prospects).

His C stats aren’t good, so why bother. We have lots of wingers who can play C…we need a guy who plays only C

 

[CanMerc]

McCann is one of those players that fans want if they like him..but not someone we need or someone who’d help the team in any big way.
He doesn’t fill a hole or address a need.
Personally, I’d rather pay more to address a need, like Cozens…more expensive and all, but at least he’s a C

 

[Huffer]

His C stats aren’t good, so why bother. We have lots of wingers who can play C…we need a guy who plays only C

No one is saying he's an everyday top 6 C, but if you have his centre vs winger splits and advanced stats I'd love to see them to compare how he's done between the two.

Also don't think we have lots of wingers who can also play centre. They haven't tried Vilardi there, and they also don't seem to want to put Perfetti there. So I'm not sure who all the others are?

I'm 100% in on acquiring a true 2C, ideally with term. I'm not seeing any really available at the moment.

McCann is one of those players that fans want if they like him..but not someone we need or someone who’d help the team in any big way.
He doesn’t fill a hole or address a need.
Personally, I’d rather pay more to address a need, like Cozens…more expensive and all, but at least he’s a C

Disagree, but you're entitled to your opinion.

 

[Whileee]

I don't think we need to worry about or discuss McCann much. Why would he waive his NTC to move to Winnipeg for the rest of this season and two more seasons after this?

 

[Huffer]

I don't think we need to worry about or discuss McCann much. Why would he waive his NTC to move to Winnipeg for the rest of this season and two more seasons after this?

I don't think it's likely either, but there is an outside chance depending on whomever else might be interested if he thinks the Jets have the best chance to win. Slightly difference situations, but similar to Stastny.

 

[Mooche]

Dobson is the kind of player you empty your futures load for. Not the rinky-dinky spending 1sts on rentals.

If he is truly available and willing to sign an extension I am offering 2025 1st, 2026 1st (unprotected), Barlow, Iafallo and NYI's pick of one of He or Walton.

Re-sign him for $8.5 million and move on from Pionk in the summer.

This is dream scenario territory.

Imagine this team having:

JoMo
Dobson
Samberg
DeMelo
Salo
Pick Your 3rd Pair LD

All locked and loaded in the ~27-28M ballpark for the foreseeable future with the cap rising.

Sheesh.

Okay, I'll stop dreaming now.

 

[DRW204]

I don't think it's likely either, but there is an outside chance depending on whomever else might be interested if he thinks the Jets have the best chance to win. Slightly difference situations, but similar to Stastny.

Maybe Appleton sells Mcann on Winnipeg
I'd say McCann would be our 5th best offensive Fwd. I'd be happy if acquired.

 

[Buffdog]

This is dream scenario territory.

Imagine this team having:

JoMo
Dobson
Samberg
DeMelo
Salo
Pick Your 3rd Pair LD

All locked and loaded in the ~27-28M ballpark for the foreseeable future with the cap rising.

Sheesh.

Okay, I'll stop dreaming now.

Stanley, please!

 

[CanMerc]

A little off topic, but…
Does anybody have a good chilli recipe?

 

[Buffdog]

A little off topic, but…
Does anybody have a good chilli recipe?

Posted one in the recipie thread for ya

 

[Huffer]

Dobson is the kind of player you empty your futures load for. Not the rinky-dinky spending 1sts on rentals.

If he is truly available and willing to sign an extension I am offering 2025 1st, 2026 1st (unprotected), Barlow, Iafallo and NYI's pick of one of He or Walton.

Re-sign him for $8.5 million and move on from Pionk in the summer.

If Dobson was willing to sign for 8.5, I'd imagine his name would not be out there.

Just RD alone:

Doughty (12.5%)
Fox (10.8%)
McAvoy (10.8%)
Jones (10.8%)

With the cap going up to 113.5 in 3 years, his next contract is likely going to start at 10+.

 

[Mooche]

Stanley, please!

You can have one Stanley, Mr @Buffdog !

 

[Buffdog]

I love the idea of Dobson, but with one year of arbitration-eligible RFA left after this season, he essentially has a league-wide NTC

NYI can deal him wherever they want, but won't get maximum value from him unless he comes with an agreed-upon extension (a la PLD)

For that reason, if they're going to deal him, it will be to somewhere he wants to be long-term. And that's probably not here

You can have one Stanley, Mr @Buffdog !

It's 100% for the lulz watching everyone freak the f*** out over him

 

[Whileee]

I don't think it's likely either, but there is an outside chance depending on whomever else might be interested if he thinks the Jets have the best chance to win. Slightly difference situations, but similar to Stastny.

Stastny only waived to join the Jets for a few months. Then he signed with Vegas, before making his way back to Winnipeg as a UFA at the tail end of his career. I just think it's unlikely that a player with more than a year left on their contract and a NTC would waive to come to Winnipeg. It's not impossible, but I think it makes a trade highly unlikely. I suppose it might be possible for a player that is on a bottom-dwelling team that is a bit of toxic situation and has just one more season, but historically the Jets have only ever acquired one player that waived a NTC to come to Winnipeg for more than a few months (Schmidt).

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

I love the idea of Dobson, but with one year of arbitration-eligible RFA left after this season, he essentially has a league-wide NTC

NYI can deal him wherever they want, but won't get maximum value from him unless he comes with an agreed-upon extension (a la PLD)

I don't think it's that much of a hurdle, worse comes to worse the team trading for him can flip him either in the off season next year and or at the TDL and most likely won't lose much, especially if you win a cup in the mean time.

 

[Gm0ney]

But he was supposed to be the centerpiece for the PLD trade!

I believe you're thinking of Dvorak.

 

[voyageur]

I don't think it's that much of a hurdle, worse comes to worse the team trading for him can flip him either in the off season next year and or at the TDL and most likely won't lose much, especially if you win a cup in the mean time.

I don't see the Isles trading him for futures though. They have a chance at the WC. Rangers have issues. Jackets have injuries. Sens have injuries. Detroit is rising but they have some goaltending issues. Isles will likely be looking for a top 6 player I think and that's not something the Jets can afford to trade. The Jets are better because they made a 1 for 4 piece trade. And 3 of those pieces are contributing.

I'm interested to see if Chevy goes the traditional route of putting 1st on the table to improve, and where he invests it. I think a lot of people are looking more at defense than forwards for the playoff grind. Forward might just be depth guys, if the big names cost too much or don't want to play here.

Dobson seems like too big of a fish to land at this time of the season.

 

[Buffdog]

I don't think it's that much of a hurdle, worse comes to worse the team trading for him can flip him either in the off season next year and or at the TDL and most likely won't lose much, especially if you win a cup in the mean time.

You'd run into the same problem with Dobson next season that you have with Ehlers this season at the TDL

The difference is that you spent some very, very high quality assets to obtain Dobson

Chevy should absolutely not trade for him without an extension

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

Dobson seems like too big of a fish to land at this time of the season.

I agree, wasn't saying we could land him exactly, just in general.

You'd run into the same problem with Dobson next season that you have with Ehlers this season at the TDL

The difference is that you spent some very, very high quality assets to obtain Dobson

Chevy should absolutely not trade for him without an extension

It's a risk for sure but if he helps you win the cup this year then it doesn't matter, and he is certainly a player that could help you win the cup, like I said worse case you trade him in the off season or at the TDL and recoup some of what you lost, he would still hold value.

In any case it's a pipe dream, we ain't landing Dobson, we simply don't have the assets that would be required.

 

[Jets 31]

Posted one in the recipie thread for ya

Should have made him change Fire Chevy to Chevy is great before giving the recipe.

 

[PaulPooley]

I was scouring the Predators roster during the game last night like a vulture on behalf of the Jets and I couldn’t stop myself from fantasizing about an ROR acquisition. Would probably never happen but what an addition he’d be.