Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Mortimer Snerd]

Buffalo would likely want Salomonsson as the opening piece. They are stacked at LD but don't have a young defensive minded RD to play with Power/Rasmus. They would likely also want one of Lambert/Yager to fill the hole. They have a tonne of skilled wingers so likely have zero interest in Chibrikov, Barlow etc.

True. They are not getting that though or it would be done.

They might also like some vets to change the culture. Something with Nino + Lambert. But you are probably right. In which case we are simply not a good fit.

Yeah, but they most likely wouldn't be looking to trade him until midway through the deal which would be in his 30's. He'd have full trade protection as well through likely the first half to 2/3 of it.

I missed something, sorry. You seem to be talking about moving Ehlers some time in the future if he is extended.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Only way Jets take back control is to trade him for what they can now.

Yes. But if the return doesn't help now you are trading a key player while contending for the top. I think keeping him as an own rental is far more likely than that.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I agree with you but do you really think there will be a lot of Jets fans that would look at it like that ? I think alot would say what the hell is Chevy doing, fire him, you can't get nothing for Ehlers.

Not sure about that. Some maybe but not a lot.

More likely though is that we have this PO (good or bad) after a good regular season and then are noticeably worse next regular season without Ehlers and with everyone else being a year older. That is where I think the attendance is hurt.

 

[raideralex99]

They gave us Neo for a second round pick, maybe O'Rielly for a second.

I don't trust O'Rielly ... he has had a lot of bad games this year and even demoted to the 4th line.
I also understand vets on bad teams are bad but once they get to a good team they all of a sudden are good again ... it's like a switch was turned on.

 

[raideralex99]

Ehlers has never said he wants out of Winnipeg.

This is true in fact Ehlers did said in an interview that it was Chevy that has said nothing about re signing ... maybe Chevy is waiting to see what Ehlers can do in the playoffs.
I can't see Chevy trading Ehlers unless it's a PLD lopsided trade and I'm ok with Ehlers being a rental.

 

[DRW204]

Like Monahan lol. That went so well. You want two stud centers. Tank like the Oilers for years. Or buy up the market like Vegas. Or get two that clash, like Vancouver, or the two years we had Dubois as a C, one which we missed the playoffs, the other in which the team whimpered out. Or draft one. Like Rossi, Hintz.

I love the narrative that this is the year for Ehlers. He's going to do it man, put us over the top like he has in years past. It's blind faith, not based on past results, just blind faith.

But if you have faith in Namestnikov's game, which has been pretty clean, you're delusional. Even though I just pointed out how the Jets match up 1-3 at center around the division, ignore that. +11, not good enough. The 2nd line needs more scoring, If teams around the division make moves at center maybe the Jets do,

But don't ignore that Ehlers just cost us the Anaheim game with dumb puck management, soft play, has sunk Lowry as a C, in his short stint, with Namestnikov battling a hand injury, and now we need the next guy who will elevate him to the greatest heights of his career, in what is likely the last year here.

or make trades like FLA did for Bennett, COL for Kadri the years they won the cups.
TBL drafted Point, Cirelli.
STL trades for Schenn and ROR.

Monahan was not good in the POs either btw. it's actually hilarious that line was only a -1 with how little offense they produced, and how garbage helle was.

 

[voyageur]

I don't trust O'Rielly ... he has had a lot of bad games this year and even demoted to the 4th line.
I also understand vets on bad teams are bad but once they get to a good team they all of a sudden are good again ... it's like a switch was turned on.

Last year he was the man. Looks like Stamkos is the #1 C for the time being, and the Preds have Svechkov working towards 2C, with Novak at 3C, so a bit of a youth movement.

Wouldn't surprise me if he got traded. I always wonder though about any player, is this guy going to like spending the next 3 years of his life in Winnipeg, with his wife and family? Because if they don't want be here, you end up with another Dubois.

 

[Flair Hay]

Team defense man, team defense. The one thing few fans ever consider.

I'm quoting this next time we are discussing Pionk contract talks!

 

[DRW204]

There's no hockey trade at the deadline to be made, in my opinion. You'd need to know Ehlers will re-sign with the team he's being moved to and it's unlikely that gets done mid-season.

I think we just need to be prepared that he'll leave in the summer after the Jets season is over. It's what teams that are trying their best to win do.

yup, i don't know which team is trading their 2c or 1rhd for a ufa-1 winger in ehlers. or who is trading their player w/ term for a player who can walk in a couple months? if it was a straight ufa-1 for ufa-1 swap, the Jets are in the same spot they were before.
imo the Jets are probably getting picks+prospects for ehlers. doubt the Jets do that. might as well just trade pionk too who is having a better season than normal and way more of an outlier.
the Jets had to do convincing for Helle to re-sign here that they'd remain competitive.... i can't think of a more competitive move than trading out of your top scorers.

 

[KingBogo]

Yup - honestly would be for the best if Chevy traded Nik for a 2C with some term, and then brought Chibby and Lambert up (after roster expansion) to juice that second line.

That makes the most sense. We desperately need a # 2 center and wing is the area with most depth. But easier said than done.

 

[KingBogo]

Not sure about that. Some maybe but not a lot.

More likely though is that we have this PO (good or bad) after a good regular season and then are noticeably worse next regular season without Ehlers and with everyone else being a year older. That is where I think the attendance is hurt.

We won't be noticeably older next season. Scheifele, Helly, Lowry and Nino are the oldest of the core players and they are all going strong. Connor is having his best season yet, Perfetti has lots of room to grow. All their top defenseman are all still in their 20's with Samberg still in his mid 20's. We are creeping up in age, but hopefully our kids can come in and play important roles on their ELCs. If we have playoff success the city will be excited about the team no matter the ultimate outcome with Ehlers.

 

[Buffdog]

They can sign every FA they want. They can trade for any protected player they want. Neither of those 2 is Ehlers value.



Ehlers is 28, approaching 29 pretty soon. Still well short of 30+.

You can't get much closer to 30 than 29 lol

 

[KingBogo]

Petterson is basically the best buy low on a star center with term and no trade protection since Eichel

Before that was ROR.

Not that it is the be all end all, but both have collected some hardware since

My thinking as well. Rarely do you have a center like that available in his mid 20's. Not sure what it would take, but EP is the most exciting target.

 

[bustamente]

It's great to throw around all these names but I'm 99% sure none of the players mentioned will ever wear Jets jerseys

 

[tbcwpg]

They can sign every FA they want. They can trade for any protected player they want. Neither of those 2 is Ehlers value.

You're right, only one of those players has scored 30+ 3 times and broken 40 once, and his name isn't Nikolaj.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

We won't be noticeably older next season. Scheifele, Helly, Lowry and Nino are the oldest of the core players and they are all going strong. Connor is having his best season yet, Perfetti has lots of room to grow. All their top defenseman are all still in their 20's with Samberg still in his mid 20's. We are creeping up in age, but hopefully our kids can come in and play important roles on their ELCs. If we have playoff success the city will be excited about the team no matter the ultimate outcome with Ehlers.

One year is one year. Probably no one falls off a cliff, though any one of them might. But all of those older players will be just a little bit less able than they are now. Combine that with the loss of Ehlers and it could be significant. Maybe Perfetti gets a little better. Maybe not. Samberg might be a little better, or not. But in his case, just staying healthy will be an improvement. But it might not take much team regression to make a big difference in the standings. If there is a significant drop people will associate it with the absence of Ehlers, even if that is not the cause.

We are just slowly recovering from a pretty disgruntled fan base. It might be pretty fragile.

I think that trading him in season is risky. The return might be great and we go on a deep run. Or it might need a season to adjust. How often do we see that? If it is futures it won't help this year. I just can't see a futures deal happening.

Keeping him as an own rental is also risky. What if he comes up flat in the PO again? Plenty of people will then say he should have been traded for whatever we could get. OTOH, what if he is great in the PO? People will be pissed that we didn't keep him then. It is a no win situation from that POV.

An extension is also risky, but IMO it is much less so. But if he and Chevy can't get together on a contract, that simply won't happen.

You can't get much closer to 30 than 29 lol

Not much, but he said 30+, which starts at 31. And he is not 29 yet. It is just exaggerating an issue by rushing the birthdays.

 

[Jets 31]

It's great to throw around all these names but I'm 99% sure none of the players mentioned will ever wear Jets jersey

Oh probably i agree but a player like O'Rielly isn't out the question. I would like him for faceoffs and he knows what it takes to win the Cup.

 

[DRW204]

Ehlers is 28, approaching 29 pretty soon. Still well short of 30+.

Not much, but he said 30+, which starts at 31. And he is not 29 yet. It is just exaggerating an issue by rushing the birthdays.

 

[voyageur]

One year is one year. Probably no one falls off a cliff, though any one of them might. But all of those older players will be just a little bit less able than they are now. Combine that with the loss of Ehlers and it could be significant. Maybe Perfetti gets a little better. Maybe not. Samberg might be a little better, or not. But in his case, just staying healthy will be an improvement. But it might not take much team regression to make a big difference in the standings. If there is a significant drop people will associate it with the absence of Ehlers, even if that is not the cause.

We are just slowly recovering from a pretty disgruntled fan base. It might be pretty fragile.

I think that trading him in season is risky. The return might be great and we go on a deep run. Or it might need a season to adjust. How often do we see that? If it is futures it won't help this year. I just can't see a futures deal happening.

Keeping him as an own rental is also risky. What if he comes up flat in the PO again? Plenty of people will then say he should have been traded for whatever we could get. OTOH, what if he is great in the PO? People will be pissed that we didn't keep him then. It is a no win situation from that POV.

An extension is also risky, but IMO it is much less so. But if he and Chevy can't get together on a contract, that simply won't happen.



Not much, but he said 30+, which starts at 31. And he is not 29 yet. It is just exaggerating an issue by rushing the birthdays.

I think you have to get to the offseason. And people are still certain that KC is going to re-sign here. But if the Jets lose Ehlers does KC still think the Jets are contenders? Red Wings have some real nice prospects to build with. I'd say Sandin-Pellika is probably higher rated than Salomonsson, and they have some more up front, and a couple of goalie prospects. Another stinker playoff, and maybe he packs up home, with his Michigan wife, married last summer, surrounded by Detroit Red Wings guys he practices with in the offseason.

Then Chevy is truly up shit's creek. It's funny though because if the Jets lost KC I think Perfetti would be the next man up on that top line because of Scheif's preferences, not Ehlers, but the Jets would probably double down on Nik to build a 2nd line out of. With prospects and whatever trade return you'd get.

That's the one I'm watching.

 

[Adam da bomb]

I think you have to get to the offseason. And people are still certain that KC is going to re-sign here. But if the Jets lose Ehlers does KC still think the Jets are contenders? Red Wings have some real nice prospects to build with. I'd say Sandin-Pellika is probably higher rated than Salomonsson, and they have some more up front, and a couple of goalie prospects. Another stinker playoff, and maybe he packs up home, with his Michigan wife, married last summer, surrounded by Detroit Red Wings guys he practices with in the offseason.

Then Chevy is truly up shit's creek. It's funny though because if the Jets lost KC I think Perfetti would be the next man up on that top line because of Scheif's preferences, not Ehlers, but the Jets would probably double down on Nik to build a 2nd line out of. With prospects and whatever trade return you'd get.

That's the one I'm watching.

Kc still has his best friends Helly and Schief so cares less bout Ehlers.

 

[Thechozen1]

Personally I would love if the Jets could pry O'Reilly out of Nashville to play between Ehlers and Perfetti. He seems like he has enough speed still to play fast with them, but also has the bigger body to make room for the other two guys. His hands are also still good and he goes to the dirty areas well. At 4.5 for two more years after this one he's not too expensive either.

O’Reilly is probably my top target as well. He’s pretty solid on the dot too which never hurts.

Second bargain hunting target would be Granlund. Different style player, but still appears to be effective. Only concern is another smallish skilled guy for that 2nd line.

 

[10Ducky10]

True. They are not getting that though or it would be done.

They might also like some vets to change the culture. Something with Nino + Lambert. But you are probably right. In which case we are simply not a good fit.

Nino, Ehlers, Lambert and Barlow for JJ Peterka and Cozens.

 

[DRW204]

People point out the Jets lack of speed, but want ROR? Half the top 6 would be some of the leagues slower paced players.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I don't think that the org is one to do things for optics

As stated, trading Ehlers when you're sitting at the top of the standings doesn't look good either. And it certainly sends a terrible message to the locker room

Chevy will have to handle this deftly... but realistically, if he trades Ehlers he'll get a 1st and a b prospect. Would he trade he trade that at the deadline for Ehlers for a playoff run if he don't have him? If the answer is yes, then it's OK to keep him

So .... a lot less than he got for Copp?

But I don't think there is any chance of a futures trade. It is either for a player who can help this year or it is own rental - that is assuming he can't be extended.

 

[DRW204]

Nino, Ehlers, Lambert and Barlow for JJ Peterka and Cozens.

I really cannot see the Jets doing this.