Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[abax44]

Is EP really considered a superstar?

I personally prefer Miller.

 

[Whileee]

agree all around

One thing re: Tuch, he won’t leave Buffalo area if he has it his way

Agree about Tuch. Lee would be a good get if he wants to see playoff action. He's from Minnesota, but still a longshot. He has another year on his contract, which might be an advantage if the Jets don't re-sign Ehlers.

But the general concepts are looking for a big difference-maker even if it's on the wing and trying to get a player with a bit of term.

I'm also thinking that if the Jets can find a team that is a really good fit for Ehlers, they might use him to acquire trade capital in picks/prospects or perhaps try to make a hockey trade directly. Maybe they could send him to a contender for futures and trade the futures to a non-contender for a big C/W or top-4 D. I think the Jets do need to restructure their roster somewhat to be a true contender and if Ehlers isn't re-signing then he needs to be considered as part of the restructuring.

 

[gojetsgo]

Is EP really considered a superstar?

I personally prefer Miller.

miller wouldn't waive. ep doesn't have trade protection until july 1st, he's had a 100 point season and a 90 point season

 

[Whileee]

How could you possibly trade Ehlers at this point? I understand the concern about losing him for nothing but I think the trade ship has sailed. You don't trade away top players when you're first in the league and in your best position to contend in years. It would take some serious magic by Chevy to make that happen. Teams interested in Ehlers would be trading back futures and that's a really hard sell to the fanbase when you're gearing up for a playoff run. I think you just roll with it, hope for a nice long run and give it one more shot at signing him after the season. If you lose him for nothing, it's no different than losing a rental, even if it feels different. Ten years of elite play is a fine return on the 2014 9th overall pick.

As I noted, I think that one option is for the Jets to trade Ehlers for futures and flip the futures to strengthen the roster. I'm not sure it's wise for a franchise like the Jets to let a premium player walk in free agency for nothing. They don't have the pull to replace him through free agency the way many other teams might.

 

[bustamente]

I've talked about Tuch before and while not a centre maybe he could slide into the position. Now does he waive to get out of Buffalo, with a year remaining he could come here play another season and then go wherever he wants. Still think Cozens is the better bet.

 

[KingBogo]

miller wouldn't waive. ep doesn't have trade protection until july 1st, he's had a 100 point season and a 90 point season

He is also 26, so at the front part of his prime. IMO Chevy needs to do something aggressive and bold and EP, is probably the best fit as a #1/2 center and has the highest ceiling of anyone theoretically available.

 

[Whileee]

miller wouldn't waive. ep doesn't have trade protection until july 1st, he's had a 100 point season and a 90 point season

Friedman seemed to think that the Canucks would focus on a C in any trade for EP or Miller. Probably not a good trade partner for the Jets.

 

[bustamente]

I rather KP over Miller, that dude screams me me me, reality neither is coming here

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

Petey is hard to fit in at 11.5M and seems like a bit of a head case. I'd rather spend less and go into the playoffs with a lineup like this (sharks fans have been saying that Granlund has been their best player this year):

Connor - Scheifele - Vilardi
Perfetti - Granlund - Ehlers
Nino - Lowry - Appleton
Names - Kupari - Iafallo

Morrissey - Risto
Samberg - Pionk
Fleury/Stan - Demelo

 

[Hunter368]

Out of that list, Ehlers if he is willing to sign in Vancouver is the biggest win now chip. Perfetti is probably the next most interesting player to them. That is 2 now players, that play in our top 6. The salary for those 2 is not quite close to a saw off this season with EP but we could insert Lambert or Chibs on an ELC, so that is doable. How close do people think that gets us?

I don't think it would be Ehlers & Cole P in the same package.

Something like:

Cole P (he can play C), Alex (cap), 1st & Barlow

Ehlers (signed) & 1st or Yager (if they want a good C prospect)

Just spit balling, also not sure what Nucks need, but i suspect they will want a C and/or good center prospect as part of any deal.

I think most people would agree EP plays a more critical role & is a better player/more valuable player then Ehlers. Clearly EP is struggling with the situation in Vancouver right now and needs a culture change.

 

[KingBogo]

Friedman seemed to think that the Canucks would focus on a C in any trade for EP or Miller. Probably not a good trade partner for the Jets.

Maybe they see Perfetti as a potential center? Anyways EP is probably just a dream. But IMO Chevy has to aggressively seek out a game changer rather than tweak around the edges.

 

[KingBogo]

I don't think it would be Ehlers & Cole P in the same package.

Something like:

Cole P (he can play C), Alex (cap), 1st & Barlow

Ehlers (signed) & 1st or Yager (if they want a good C prospect)

Just spit balling, also not sure what Nucks need, but i suspect they will want a C and/or good center prospect as part of any deal.

I think most people would agree EP plays a more critical role & is a better player/more valuable player then Ehlers. Clearly EP is struggling with the situation in Vancouver right now and needs a culture change.

I’d prefer to give up the 1st package you suggested but we would still be over the cap. Also not sure the Canucks would see that as enough.

 

[AtomicJets]

As I noted, I think that one option is for the Jets to trade Ehlers for futures and flip the futures to strengthen the roster. I'm not sure it's wise for a franchise like the Jets to let a premium player walk in free agency for nothing. They don't have the pull to replace him through free agency the way many other teams might.

So trade Ehlers for futures and swap futures for a rental that you're going to lose anyways? I mean you aren't going to get better players than Ehlers for the futures you receive for him. Best case scenario is an inferior player with some term or an equivalent player who is just a rental you're going to lose.

 

[Hunter368]

I’d prefer to give up the 1st package you suggested but we would still be over the cap. Also not sure the Canucks would see that as enough.

Nucks won’t get equal value back, very few situations like that ends with the team trading the best piece winning the trade. Most times at best they might win it in a few years if prospect or picks turn out well.

 

[WolfHouse]

Ehlers as own rental - try to sign him though
2nd and chib for ristolainen
Pick for palmieri or olivier

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

Ehlers as own rental - try to sign him though
2nd and chib for ristolainen
Pick for palmieri or olivier

I'm on board for Risto but I'd hate to give up Chib for him - maybe they'd bite on a 2nd + Heinola instead

 

[WolfHouse]

I'm on board for Risto but I'd hate to give up Chib for him - maybe they'd bite on a 2nd + Heinola instead

If im philly i want chib with michkov

 

[bustamente]

Chipman and Co intended goals for this team, fill the building make the playoffs, not being able to re sign players and letting the players go for nothing and you wont be filling the building let alone make the playoffs. The Jets winning the cup will probably never happen in my lifetime and I'm okay with that but I at least want to see a competitive team year in year out

 

[Cotton Eye Joe]

I'd stay clear from Pettersson.
Have to give up a ton to get him.
And, I'm not sold on him as a playoff performer.
A retired NHL player, now media commentator echoed my feelings about not being convinced at all that Pettersson is a guy you want to count on come playoff time when the rough going multiplies.

 

[AtomicJets]

Chipman and Co intended goals for this team, fill the building make the playoffs, not being able to re sign players and letting the players go for nothing and you wont be filling the building let alone make the playoffs. The Jets winning the cup will probably never happen in my lifetime and I'm okay with that but I at least want to see a competitive team year in year out

You don't want to make a habit of losing players for nothing but if it happens occasionally I don't think it's a disaster.

Would you rather be a good team losing a good player for nothing or a bad team getting assets for a good player at the deadline?

 

[Wpgpage]

On Ehlers - I can not see a GM as risk adverse as Chevy going into the final year of team control without at least thinking he had a 50% chance at signing Ehlers. Even with Copp when they did end up moving him at the TDL I recall most folks thinking the chance of him coming back if not dealt was around 50/50.

On EP- why in the world if Van has absolutely decided they need to move one of JT and EP does the 26 year old get moved before the 31 year old? Especially since the 26 year old has had much better points per 60 over the last 3 years. It will be JT for Zib with either retention from NYR to get Zib down to around 7 mil or a D going back to Van to balance.

Price for Ristolainen - 2nd / 3rd plus right to Rashevsky. Or you could expand the deal and do something like conditional 1st in 26 plus 2nd plus one of Kupari/Gus plus Rashevsky for Risto and Frost.

 

[Thechozen1]

Is EP really considered a superstar?

I personally prefer Miller.

Miller’s style is probably a better fit for what the JETS need, but I worry about bringing in a player with his ego and cancerous personality. Chevy would seriously need to do his homework on the player and personality compatibility.

He likely wouldn’t accept a trade to Winnipeg anyway

 

[JetsFan815]

On EP- why in the world if Van has absolutely decided they need to move one of JT and EP does the 26 year old get moved before the 31 year old? Especially since the 26 year old has had much better points per 60 over the last 3 years. It will be JT for Zib with either retention from NYR to get Zib down to around 7 mil or a D going back to Van to balance.

Miller has a full NMC and is apparently very selective about where he wants to go, whereas EP currently has no trade protection (his NMC doesn't kick in until next summer). So it is much easier to do an EP trade than it is a Miller trade

 

[voyageur]

This board continually amazes me... trading Ehlers as part of a package for a guy producing less points this year.. thats a hell of a gamble for no reason

This board amazes me in that they want players with a pedigree while offering scraps. Straight up term and production over the long haul doesn't make Ehlers worth Petey.

Tell me how that story could be any different.

 

[Jets 31]

This board continually amazes me... trading Ehlers as part of a package for a guy producing less points this year.. thats a hell of a gamble for no reason

He's getting traded by me if he has told me he isn't re-signing if i was the GM . Now if he has told me he wants to sign that changes everything.