Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[WolfHouse]

Interesting to think about Petterson that's for sure.

The way the Jets structure their lines you pretty much need your 2C to be a true top line guy. If you want to measure up to most cup winners from the last decade or so.

It doesn't feel like a Jets type move to go out and acquire an $11M player. Especially if they aren't 100% sure the chemistry is a fit.

If it was Ehlers going back the other way that's the only way I can see it happening. But too late for a sign and trade now.

Would basically need to be Ehlers for #1 salary #2 a top line calibre guy back. And then make up the value for Ehlers being UFA and a lesser player.

Basically the way Tkachuk (Petterson) was dealt for first line UFA Huberdeau (Ehlers) and UFA Weegar and a 1st.

9.5 mil in, 9.15 mil out in that Tkachuk deal for Florida.

So basically our equivalent of Weegar is or DeMelo

11.6 mil in, 11.9 mil out.

And a 1st. Eek. Steep.

That said...you can find cheap top 6 wingers to play with stars. Hard to find elite C outside the top 3 of the draft without amazing luck and development

Basically need to move Ehlers, Iafallo - but both are on expiring... I dont think the Jets have the pieces

I could see DeBrincat/Copp/1st for Petterson and a prospect
OR Caufield/Dach

I've been playing around how this might work as well, by why do you say it is too late for an Ehlers sign and trade? At the very least Ehlers agreeing to sign with the Canucks would have to be part of the deal.

I think you run a MASSIVE risk running that by Ehlers and his agent before a trade is formalized - right now, Ehlers is the engine of our powerplay - Petterson 'might' replace him or he might pull us back to overpassing...

If you ask Ehlers for a sign and trade and the deal falls apart, you've really fkd things

 

[bustamente]

You are definitely not alone on targeting Olivier...

I don't much about his playing skills but I do know he almost killed media darling Rempe

 

[ps241]

Pettersson is a bit like PLD was with the Kinds last season, they would need to move Elias this year before his no movement clause kicks in. Even if they were thinking of moving him Winnipeg is very unlikely to be in the mix IMO.

Jim Rutherford has always been an aggressive but savvy GM. I think it’s too early for him to panic. He needs to get Demko back and healthy and if he is playing well then see if they can’t get things going better in the last half of the season. Jim would be aware if there are major problems that need to be dealt with but winning tends to heal all wounds. As of today Vancouver is still in the last wild card spot in the west and they haven’t been bringing the best version of themselves yet this season.

 

[WolfHouse]

Pettersson is a bit like PLD was with the Kinds last season, they would need to move Elias this year before his no movement clause kicks in. Even if they were thinking of moving him Winnipeg is very unlikely to be in the mix IMO.

Jim Rutherford has always been an aggressive but savvy GM. I think it’s too early for him to panic. He needs to get Demko back and healthy and if he is playing well then see if they can’t get things going better in the last half of the season. Jim would be aware if there are major problems that need to be dealt with but winning tends to heal all wounds. As of today Vancouver is still in the last wild card spot in the west and they haven’t been bringing the best version of themselves yet this season.

Think theres a much more robust market for miller... waiting for the news to 'leak' that boston is interested and force drury's hand

 

[gojetsgo]

Pettersson is a bit like PLD was with the Kinds last season, they would need to move Elias this year before his no movement clause kicks in. Even if they were thinking of moving him Winnipeg is very unlikely to be in the mix IMO.

Jim Rutherford has always been an aggressive but savvy GM. I think it’s too early for him to panic. He needs to get Demko back and healthy and if he is playing well then see if they can’t get things going better in the last half of the season. Jim would be aware if there are major problems that need to be dealt with but winning tends to heal all wounds. As of today Vancouver is still in the last wild card spot in the west and they haven’t been bringing the best version of themselves yet this season.

I think that's the problem, they had a great season last year and the situation didn't get seem to get any better

 

[voyageur]

Basically need to move Ehlers, Iafallo - but both are on expiring... I dont think the Jets have the pieces

I could see DeBrincat/Copp/1st for Petterson and a prospect
OR Caufield/Dach


I think you run a MASSIVE risk running that by Ehlers and his agent before a trade is formalized - right now, Ehlers is the engine of our powerplay - Petterson 'might' replace him or he might pull us back to overpassing...

If you ask Ehlers for a sign and trade and the deal falls apart, you've really fkd things

No way the Jets bank on Pettersson as their highest paid player. Buffalo is the best trading partner there, they can easily make the Cap with him. Build around him and Dahlin, Thompson and Power. Vancouver I'm sure wants Byram right now. Some kind of/any kind of defensive help.

Jets would probably like to get a string of games together with a regular defensive lineup before the trade deadline.

I agree Ehlers just plays out the season. I think Chevy's quote about trade was he'd revisit it if he had to. Team's not falling apart with Ehlers. Does not seem like a tense locker room in any way. He's happy to be here this year, with the opportunities he's getting to contribute. PP is going to be the one that earns him a lot of money on the market, he'd have no interest in changing that I imagine. Nor would Chevy. That's one look that hasn't been playoff tested yet, with new coaches.

 

[DRW204]

elias pettersson is making 11.6m a year, the Jets aren't trading for and paying that to play 14-15 mins a night.
just my theory, don't think they want anyone surpassing schiefele's salary unless it's one of their guys which would be connor.

 

[Heldig]

Not sure about Zib from Rangers not exactly loved by Ranger fans and not having a good year, not to mention his age.

Nucks, JT Miller is intense like Wheeler was, not sure a good fit here. EP likely a better fit here, more chill skill guy.

EP would be expensive to get though

EP also makes way too much money. Cant bring in a new 1C making 3 million more per year than the top 2 stars - and still have to sign Kyle Connor.

 

[ps241]

I think that's the problem, they had a great season last year and the situation didn't get seem to get any better

Oh yea for sure. After floundering outside the playoff picture for years, last season their team goes off and ends up with 109 points and is one bounce away from meeting Dallas in the the final four. I can see why they and their fan base would have been optimistic heading into this season. Allot went right last season and they are having less luck this year.

They still have nice high end assets they just need to get back to playing as a team again. Both Miller and Pettersson have hit the 100 points plateau within the last two season so I think the GM will be cautious here.

 

[Heldig]

I want the Jets to and get a gamer at the trade deadline or sooner. Someone highly competitive, mentally tough, and consistently performs well, especially in critical or high-pressure situations. Someone that is reliable, passionate, and thrives when the stakes are high.

That’s it.



.

Crosby it is then.

 

[Jet]

For the people wanting Zib, have you watched him play in the last year?
I would want no part of him at any cost.

How much of that might be environmental?

Big risk for sure

 

[10Ducky10]

How much of that might be environmental?

Big risk for sure

Huuuuuuuuuuuge risk.
He turns 32 before the playoffs start and he is making 8.5m per year. His deal doesn't end until after the 29-30 season.
I want no part of him at all.

 

[Jet]

Huuuuuuuuuuuge risk.
He turns 32 before the playoffs start and he is making 8.5m per year. His deal doesn't end until after the 29-30 season.
I want no part of him at all.

I guess we will see what people who actually make the decisions think .

I don't see it happening realistically.

 

[Adam da bomb]

EP also makes way too much money. Cant bring in a new 1C making 3 million more per year than the top 2 stars - and still have to sign Kyle Connor.

Yeah I think Ehlers is the first casualty. They'd take his 8 mil that they were supposed to give him, get rid of AI and make it work financially before they even think about Connor.

 

[10Ducky10]

I guess we will see what people who actually make the decisions think .

I don't see it happening realistically.

Panarin at 50% would be really nice but he isn't moving to Winnipeg.

 

[WolfHouse]

Panarin at 50% would be really nice but he isn't moving to Winnipeg.

If panarin is on the market detroit will pay full price for him...

Zib will be part of the jt miller package to vancouver so no worries about him being a jet

Im buying into the risto hype officially

 

[10Ducky10]

No to Risto, I'd much rather have Pionk.

 

[Jets 31]

Crosby it is then.

Toews maybe.

 

[Jet]

No to Risto, I'd much rather have Pionk.

I bet Pionk signs a team friendly deal. He is a Minnesotan, seems to fit in really well and like playing for the Jets.

I'm not mad, either. The guy busts his ass every f***ing night. He might have some oh shit moments but most D do.

 

[Cotton Eye Joe]

Islanders are 2nd last in the East.
Brock Nelson and Scott Mayfield would look good on the Jets.

Vilardi. Scheif. KFC
Iafalo. Nelson Ehlers
Nino. Lowry. Apples
Barron. Vladdy. Kupari

JoMo. DemeLo
Slamberg Pionk
Fleury. Mayfield

 

[KingBogo]

I bet Pionk signs a team friendly deal. He is a Minnesotan, seems to fit in really well and like playing for the Jets.

I'm not mad, either. The guy busts his ass every f***ing night. He might have some oh shit moments but most D do.

Agreed. I think Pionk stays as well. Depends what you consider team friendly. My guess is he gets a small bump up in actual salary, but with a slight smaller % of a raising cap.

 

[Whileee]

I bet Pionk signs a team friendly deal. He is a Minnesotan, seems to fit in really well and like playing for the Jets.

I'm not mad, either. The guy busts his ass every f***ing night. He might have some oh shit moments but most D do.

I'd be fine with a team-friendly deal... maybe something in the DeMelo level, which wouldn't be bad in a rising cap scenario. The Jets don't need to preserve huge cap space to lure a "franchise" player because those players won't sign in Winnipeg.

I think the Jets can have a mix of contracts slightly over market value, but with roster depth and a few good players on ELCs.

 

[Whileee]

A really good 2C is going to be very expensive, especially if it's not a rental. I still wonder if the Jets can't manage with a size/skill upgrade on the wing and manage with Perfetti at C or using Lowry with more offensive players.

One player that might fit the Jets is Anders Lee. He's a big Nino type of winger with better scoring. He could really complement Perfetti-Ehlers or Lowry. He has another year on his contract and trade protection and is the Isles' captain, so it's a longshot.

Another longshot winger would be Tuch from the Sabres.

My general point is that the Jets' best option for improving the balance at forward might be through the addition of a big talented winger.

 

[gojetsgo]

A really good 2C is going to be very expensive, especially if it's not a rental. I still wonder if the Jets can't manage with a size/skill upgrade on the wing and manage with Perfetti at C or using Lowry with more offensive players.

One player that might fit the Jets is Anders Lee. He's a big Nino type of winger with better scoring. He could really complement Perfetti-Ehlers or Lowry. He has another year on his contract and trade protection and is the Isles' captain, so it's a longshot.

Another longshot winger would be Tuch from the Sabres.

My general point is that the Jets' best option for improving the balance at forward might be through the addition of a big talented winger.

I really think we just need to bite the bullet and pay for a 2c, it's like every year we come out of the gate strong with all lines scoring, then it starts to drop off and the only line that can score is the 1st until they get tired and their offence dries up as well

we have a glaring whole and it's past due time we pay the price to fix it

 

[Flair Hay]

I really think we just need to bite the bullet and pay for a 2c, it's like every year we come out of the gate strong with all lines scoring, then it starts to drop off and the only line that can score is the 1st until they get tired and their offence dries up as well

we have a glaring whole and it's past due time we pay the price to fix it

Agreed 100%