Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

Moloch

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Although I do agree in a perfect world we need a great 2C, a top RD to play with Josh, and really solid 4th line winger that is competent at hockey but can be a physical presence.

I still think our second line is a bit soft. We can probably solve that within a little bit by putting Nino on the 2nd line to replace Perfetti. Would you rather have Perfetti move to 2C or keep Names there?

Nino Names Ehlers

Iafallo can come up to the 3rd line. That makes room for a 4th liner who should be a real grinder. Is Barron replaceable? Should we acquire a very serviceable 4th liner that's in the NHL?

Who's on the Moose?

Tyson Empey: decent size, very tough, grinder.



Mark Liwiski: Only 6'1 185 but very physical and tough, loose screw. From Dauphin



When Ehlers comes back, maybe Chib plays on the 4th. Him and Kupari could generate chances.

Our Defense is a bit soft. DeMelo is very soft and is really not playing well. I'd love to see the addition of a top 4 RD who's physical; big ask I know.


Collin Miller is a killer. I'd actually rather have Miller than DeMelo out there. We are sleeping on Dylan Coghlan, he is quite good. Very serviceable 3rd pair. Him and Heinola might be a good combo.



That leaves Perfetti, Demelo and Barron without a home, if we can add a real 4th line guy, a top 4 RD for Josh, and size on the 2nd line. This can be done from within, or a combination of trades and within.
Ehlers and Pionk are UFA
Barron and DeMelo are expendable. I'd say Perfetti is too, depending on the return.


I didnt realize Colin had that dawg in him lol I've never seen him fight before

Miller is a great 3rd pairing D man and im a big fan of him cause it seems like he plays a balanced game. Only thing I have against him is the amount of turnovers he seems to produce
 
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I didnt realize Colin had that dawg in him lol I've never seen him fight before

Miller is a great 3rd pairing D man and im a big fan of him cause it seems like he plays a balanced game. Only thing I have against him is the amount of turnovers he seems to produce
I think he's good player to have for the playoffs because he's been through the battles. I wonder when Samberg comes back if you don't see some kind of split with Stan and Ville playing the protected home matchups, and Fleury and Miller being the road warriors. Way to keep all 8 defensemen playing.
 

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What is the deal here:

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He's not playing so probably not worth keeping around. He can sign a better deal in Europe. No trade value. Don't want to say the Moose are starting the tank, but I don't think organizationally the Jets mind one bit if they can call upon some of the team for depth in the playoffs. And in the meantime just give some ECHL hardened vets playing time.

Moose have Lambert, Lucius, Zhilin, who should back soon enough, Toninato, JAD, Suess, Ben King who can all play centre, and an ECHL vet in Conley who was playing ahead of him.

Nikkanen and Torgersson came in together, and never set the bar very high. Torgersson I think is still salvageable, he looked good with Zhilkin in the Young Stars.
 

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Hopefully he doesn't put up more than 12 points anywhere else, including some shitty Finish men's league

I don't want to hear the "we gave him away for free" crowd start up about him
I've always thought there should be a separate thread for those wanting to bitch and complain about "losing" players to waivers, didn't draft when we had the chance, didn't sign as a UFA etc. and like to bring it up season after season, even after the player has been gone for years. I guess it meets some need, but if you had a dedicated thread those that want to do so could go to town, while most of us could just put on ignore. Presto everyone is happy.
 

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90% of the time it’s because a player has a better paying (or more comfortable) opportunity in Europe and has no realistic path to NHL playing time.

Only interesting thing, normally in that case it’s reported as a “mutual contract termination”. Jets are nowhere near the max 50 contracts so you wonder if maybe something else went down?

At any rate, disappointing end to a disappointing career with the Jets. Another bust from the weak crop of 2016-2021 Jets draft picks.
 

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Hopefully he doesn't put up more than 12 points anywhere else, including some shitty Finish men's league

I don't want to hear the "we gave him away for free" crowd start up about him
Well, he was never AHL-anything-of-the-year and probably won't go overseas and lead his league in scoring at his position, so I think you can rest easy.
 
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I've always thought there should be a separate thread for those wanting to bitch and complain about "losing" players to waivers, didn't draft when we had the chance, didn't sign as a UFA etc. and like to bring it up season after season, even after the player has been gone for years. I guess it meets some need, but if you had a dedicated thread those that want to do so could go to town, while most of us could just put on ignore. Presto everyone is happy.
That's a great idea. We could call it "The Ones That Got Away" or something. Let @WolfHouse mod it lol
 

Hank Chinaski

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I've always thought there should be a separate thread for those wanting to bitch and complain about "losing" players to waivers, didn't draft when we had the chance, didn't sign as a UFA etc. and like to bring it up season after season, even after the player has been gone for years. I guess it meets some need, but if you had a dedicated thread those that want to do so could go to town, while most of us could just put on ignore. Presto everyone is happy.
Motion to title it the “Lee Stempniak Memorial Thread” in honour of the first ex-Jet that people just couldn’t move on from. :sarcasm:
 

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I've always thought there should be a separate thread for those wanting to bitch and complain about "losing" players to waivers, didn't draft when we had the chance, didn't sign as a UFA etc. and like to bring it up season after season, even after the player has been gone for years. I guess it meets some need, but if you had a dedicated thread those that want to do so could go to town, while most of us could just put on ignore. Presto everyone is happy.

Mebbe.

Though that might require spawning a companion thread for bitching and complaining about those folks who post in the Island of Lost Players thread -- gotta be able to hoard those meta posts somewhere, since they're nearly as numerous as the originals.

Hopefully the org itself takes some notice of the relative dearth of centres and D it's successfully developed and deployed for the Jets and looks to address that in future drafts with more picks and dev modelling. Looks like Salmo and Yager might be on track to break through over the next few years though, would be a real step forward and help the succession plan.
 
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Motion to title it the “Lee Stempniak Memorial Thread” in honour of the first ex-Jet that people just couldn’t move on from. :sarcasm:
I actually like it. It's good discussion sometimes and it can tend to derail threads. Not that I mind a good old derailing once in a while.
 
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That's a great idea. We could call it "The Ones That Got Away" or something. Let @WolfHouse mod it lol
I wonder if Caps board has a thread for Siegenthaler or Canes for Forsling? Probably not.

Because their GMs went out and replaced them?
Wonder who Wolfie would choose between Miller and Kovacevic? Since it would be one or the other. Unless the Jets put Heinola on waivers.
 

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I wonder if Caps board has a thread for Siegenthaler or Canes for Forsling? Probably not.

Because their GMs went out and replaced them?
Wonder who Wolfie would choose between Miller and Kovacevic? Since it would be one or the other. Unless the Jets put Heinola on waivers.
Considering that he said (with a straight face) that Kovacevoc should be in consideration for the Four Nations Team Canada... probably him
 
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voyageur

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Considering that he said (with a straight face) that Kovacevoc should be in consideration for the Fpir Nations Team Canada... probably him
I didn't read that.

But speaking of the Four Nations, Parayko is maybe the guy that Josh get paired up with.

Last night's game one of the things I noticed is how much Josh Morrissey is not the one being attacked on defense, pucks are going deep on De Melo's side.

If you compare Josh Morrissey to the high regards of Scott Niedrmayer, one of the reasons Niedermayer was so effective is he always had a defenseman whose side you didn't want to go down, that allowed him to be more active defenseively/offensively.

Do the Jets needs a guy like Parayko who could offset Morrissey? I know they haven't played a game at the Four Nations yet, but I guess the question is if Josh makes an even greater impression there is Chevy's priority that kind of player?

In my opinion Fleury and De Melo would be a more ideal 3rd pairing than what the Jets are using now.
 
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90% of the time it’s because a player has a better paying (or more comfortable) opportunity in Europe and has no realistic path to NHL playing time.

Only interesting thing, normally in that case it’s reported as a “mutual contract termination”. Jets are nowhere near the max 50 contracts so you wonder if maybe something else went down?

At any rate, disappointing end to a disappointing career with the Jets. Another bust from the weak crop of 2016-2021 Jets draft picks.

Mutual contract termination is basically the fancy way of saying that the player doesn't want to play here anymore and the team is allowing that.
 
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