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GDT: 2024-25 season game 66 LA Kings vs Minnesota Wild @5:00pm 3/17/25
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Ziggy Stardust
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And Chicago has lost three in a row. Nothing like a road trip to bring the winning streak to a screeching halt.
lumbergh
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The median point percentage in the league at the moment is 53.8%, or 72 points in 67 games, something like a 33-29-5 record. In other words, your St. Louis Blues. Over a 82 game season that takes the middle team to 88 points. If things keep going the way they are right now, one team might make the playoffs with 89 points.
Incidentally, the Blues also finished with the 16th best record in the league last year with 92 points, making them the middle-est of middling teams. The Blues are also the only team in the past decade to have won the Cup without a 100+ point season or being on track for a 100+ point season (2020-21 COVID-shortened season).
You want to generally be in the top 8 to have a real chance at the Cup.
tigermask48
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This team really needs to find ways to win winnable hockey games. Looking at the schedule the rest of the way and the Kings don't really get to help themselves much. Two games against the Oilers and one agianst Calgary. But a bunch of Eastern teams, and a handful of Central division games doesn't help them prevent Vancouver from catching them.
Axl Rhoadz
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Not trying to blow your narrative or anything, but do the wins last week against NYI and NSH count towards winning ‘winnable hockey games?’ Oh, also, Kings went 2-1 in the MIN series this year - so, I guess it’s fair to say they were on the right of this winnable series.
Lt Dan
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Preface: I have been working on being more positive.
- As far back as I can remember the Kings have always shit the bed against Minny. I googled and it's better than I thought. It's 40-37-5-6 (which is really consider 40-48, which is was better than I thought) The Kings went 2-1 against them this season, winning 1 at home and one on the road
- The Kings suck on the road
- The Kings went in to this game on a 5 game sinning streak
- Minny is a better than than we are playing in a way tougher division. Going 2-1 against them is a win
- the PP actually scored a goal
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I f***ing knew it was over once Moore took that penalty, but to be fair to him that play was more on Danault for lobbying a suicide pass right at him with an unlucky bounce to boot. Forget and move on, but I hope this doesn't mean Hiller thinks its time to change things up by inserting Lewis or Burroughs.
tigermask48
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I get that, but in a vacuum this is a game against a team that is hurting from injuries and struggling recently.
The Kings went up early, and then just gave the game back instead of stepping on the throat.
These are games the Kings should be winning if they are indeed a contender, rather than the pretender they've been the past few years.
I really don't care if it's a road game, or they scored on the PP, they still lost a very winnable hockey game.
Having been to most of those Wild home games (a friend had Wild season tickets and would take me to most Kings games,) I would have guessed about .500...
In the early Wild years, the Kings were pretty bad, and then in the Kings' Cup years the Wild was always a tough match-up because Mikko Koivu was the bear bar on the dumpster keeping Kopitar from the delicious trash.
Lt Dan
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I agree with all of this
I don't think the Kings are a contender though. I think Foegele and Edmunson will help in the playoffs but the Kings are FAR off from a cup
johnjm22
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On the Minnesota broadcast they showed LA had one of the best records in the league against playoff teams. So if we're going to criticize them for losing a "winnable" game, that should probably be brought up as well.
It's frustrating. We'd be on cloud 9 right now had the Kings won last night. Would've been 3pts out with a game in hand.
It's frustrating. We'd be on cloud 9 right now had the Kings won last night. Would've been 3pts out with a game in hand.
Axl Rhoadz
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80% of the posters on this board spend most of their energy screaming from the rooftops that the Kings are NOT a contender, and merely a perennial pretender. So, now we are claiming something different? I'm so confused...
FYI, VGK who I would assume most here would be considered a contenter....lost to PIT, BUF and DET last week. Just a fun fact...
The Kings lost the special teams battle which has been the case in so many games this year. Their PK not being quite as good as usual and their PP being as bad as usual tells the whole story of this game.
Lt Dan
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We are all overdue to awake Newell Brown from a deep slumber and savagely beat him with bars of soap in towels
Kings have done well against playoff teams / contenders this year - that's the most important factor here.
Yes, of course they should have won that game last night - the Wild are a good team but missing 3 key players including their best point producer, yeah, you'd expect a win in that scenario.
But it doesn't always work out that way. They took a penalty late in the 3rd period in a close game and paid the price for it. Flush it and move on.
Ultimately, yes it's frustrating that the Kings have lost a few very winnable games this year but they've also won a number of games against very good teams this year. Additionally, this team is virtually always in games (it's incredibly rare for them to be down more than 1-2 goals) and has shown some heart this year coming from behind to win games/secure points.
Y'all gotta be a little bit more even keel with this sh*t man. A loss in a winnable game doesn't mean the team is doomed. Just like a win against a top team doesn't mean we should start planning the parade. There are ups and downs and this season the Kings have been up a hell of a lot more than they've been down - that's what matters.
Yes, of course they should have won that game last night - the Wild are a good team but missing 3 key players including their best point producer, yeah, you'd expect a win in that scenario.
But it doesn't always work out that way. They took a penalty late in the 3rd period in a close game and paid the price for it. Flush it and move on.
Ultimately, yes it's frustrating that the Kings have lost a few very winnable games this year but they've also won a number of games against very good teams this year. Additionally, this team is virtually always in games (it's incredibly rare for them to be down more than 1-2 goals) and has shown some heart this year coming from behind to win games/secure points.
Y'all gotta be a little bit more even keel with this sh*t man. A loss in a winnable game doesn't mean the team is doomed. Just like a win against a top team doesn't mean we should start planning the parade. There are ups and downs and this season the Kings have been up a hell of a lot more than they've been down - that's what matters.
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Cheeky remarks about Lewis aside (sorry if I went too far RJ and others), there are times when good teams find ways to win and bad teams find ways to lose.
But there are also bad teams who find ways to win and good teams who find ways to lose. I think, more often than not, the Kings are a decent team who didn't do enough to win against a team that had the odds stacked against them.
Unfortunately, the truth turns out this was a time when the Kings bigger issues reared their ugly head versus having a minor issue (Lewis playing poorly) being contributory.
But there are also bad teams who find ways to win and good teams who find ways to lose. I think, more often than not, the Kings are a decent team who didn't do enough to win against a team that had the odds stacked against them.
Unfortunately, the truth turns out this was a time when the Kings bigger issues reared their ugly head versus having a minor issue (Lewis playing poorly) being contributory.
Ziggy Stardust
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Also worth mentioning that Kuzmenko has yet to register a point through six games. He has created some chances here and there, but his standout performance in his debut is pretty much the only memorable game he's had thus far.
I questioned the fit at the time, and by the time his tenure here is over, he'll be just as fondly remembered as past deadline acquisitions made by Dumpster Diving Dave Taylor.
I questioned the fit at the time, and by the time his tenure here is over, he'll be just as fondly remembered as past deadline acquisitions made by Dumpster Diving Dave Taylor.
Obviously it would be great if the Kings were higher up on the list in the 2nd photo but I think it's way more important that the Kings are among the best in the league in terms of points % against playoff teams. Kings are just in front of the Lightning in both pictures here.
Yes, it's frustrating that the Kings have dropped games at times to non-playoff teams but they still have a .652 points % against non-playoff teams.
The Kings earn points against playoff teams at the same rate as the Dallas Stars - a team everyone universally labels as contenders or even stanley cup favorites. This is a very good team, the occasional loss against a non-playoff team doesn't change that.
tigermask48
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Sure, but their record when it actually matters against playoffs teams leaves a whole lot to be desired.
Zero playoff series victories for a team that's good against playoff teams during the regular season doesn't really mean anything it seems.
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Yes but this team is different.
In previous years the Kings were NOT fairing well against playoff teams. That was likely an indication they were going to come up short in the playoffs. This year they are fairing VERY well against playoff teams - Hopefully that's an indication they're better suited for a playoff series.
Every year, every team is different. Even if there's only a few players changed on a roster. Sometimes a few depth additions can make a world of difference in a teams' season. Or just a few young players taking that next step *cough cough* Byfield, Clarke, and Laferriere.
This team is absolutely different than years past. Is it enough to get out of the first round? Of course that remains to be seen - But they definitely look significantly better suited for playoff success than years past. Center depth is better than ever. Defense is better than ever. Goaltending actually looks the best it's been in years with Kuemper having a fantastic Vezina caliber season.
Hopefully these differences end up leading to post season success.
Raccoon Jesus
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Yeah that's a big turnaround from last season when they were literally lottery quality vs. playoff teams and literally best in the league vs non playoff teams
I don't think any of us like the visible choking as soon as some actual stakes enter the picture though, and that is the pattern that most needs to be broken unfortunately.
I don't think any of us like the visible choking as soon as some actual stakes enter the picture though, and that is the pattern that most needs to be broken unfortunately.
Do you know how much of it is because they are at home playing some of the better teams when they have back to backs? Seems like they have gotten more teams on back to backs this year but I cant say for sure.
That is a lie, man, they are the 5th best team against GOOD teams....good teams generally = playoff teams...tell me again how the Kings suck against playoff teams.
EDIT this, because....their record when it actually matters is such an idiotic thing to say, you have to win in the regular season to make it to the "games that actually matter" I mean, f*** EVERY TEAMS record this year for games that ACTUALLY MATTER are 0-0.....
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