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GDT: 2024-25 season game 47 LA Kings vs Detroit Red Wings @4:00pm 1/27/25

This team goes nowhere, even adding DD.
Honestly, Clarke will be the one most screwed.
Even less PP time. I swear, if I’m down a goal and 4 minutes to go…I’m wanting the puck on Clarkes stick more than anyone on this team
More than Kempe even. Why? When you see him playing to his full abilities, he’s creating something from nothing…scanning the ice and moving into the zone and he can successfully pull off anything . Loop around the perimeter, thread a pass to any of the other 4…or move in and shoot or make a last second pass. His shot is good, esp his wrister in close. He can also beat goalies at the net. Unlike most Kings.
It’s a glimpse of the future. He’s honestly more gifted than Quinn fukking Hughes and he can do it now! They need him . But, they won’t let him. Stupid fukkkking Kings.

Putrid offense. Look at how terrible last few yrs. Bottom 5 and other 4 non playoff teams.
I hope Kings miss and are sellers.
8 11 22 24 accept going to a playoff team
Get young talent and 2 more #1s
And Gav of course. Moore? I’d bench him now. Worst top 9 forward in all NHL right now.
Soft. Doesn’t battle. Doesn’t hit anyone or go to net. Not creating anything. 3 of his 6 goals are EN. He’s been in effective in all aspects. Would try to package him now with a #2 or even Spence . With Drew coming back.


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One thing I noticed was the absolute gutlessness of that loss. Zero physicality or drive, maybe only a little after they went down 4-2 but by then it was too late. I'll give credit to Fiala, he actually looked like his dynamic old self. Like I've been saying, missing the playoffs would be a blessing in disguise. Hopefully we'll be finally rid of the atrocity that is the 3 headed beast in Blucgevin.
 
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lol, nothing like a few losses to get the old faithful out proclaiming the season is over. And we are claiming the players are gutless? Good God, get a grip boys and sack up a little.
 
Peter James Bond III said:
This team goes nowhere, even adding DD.
Honestly, Clarke will be the one most screwed.
Even less PP time. I swear, if I’m down a goal and 4 minutes to go…I’m wanting the puck on Clarkes stick more than anyone on this team
More than Kempe even. Why? When you see him playing to his full abilities, he’s creating something from nothing…scanning the ice and moving into the zone and he can successfully pull off anything . Loop around the perimeter, thread a pass to any of the other 4…or move in and shoot or make a last second pass. His shot is good, esp his wrister in close. He can also beat goalies at the net. Unlike most Kings.
It’s a glimpse of the future. He’s honestly more gifted than Quinn fukking Hughes and he can do it now! They need him . But, they won’t let him. Stupid fukkkking Kings.

Putrid offense. Look at how terrible last few yrs. Bottom 5 and other 4 non playoff teams.
I hope Kings miss and are sellers.
8 11 22 24 accept going to a playoff team
Get young talent and 2 more #1s
And Gav of course. Moore? I’d bench him now. Worst top 9 forward in all NHL right now.
Soft. Doesn’t battle. Doesn’t hit anyone or go to net. Not creating anything. 3 of his 6 goals are EN. He’s been in effective in all aspects. Would try to package him now with a #2 or even Spence . With Drew coming back.


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Just look at the lineup Hiller is forced to send out there. How can anyone still be surprised or in denial about the offense? It is almost February and Phil Danault has 4 goals and has been in a scoring line role all season and is still seeing PP time. He could still be somewhat serviceable in a lesser role, but it's just comical he is expected to produce offense because none of Blake and Yanetti's center picks can produce offense (well except for the one he traded away).

Kopitar, God bless him, but he's going to be 38 years old this summer, he has played 1400 NHL games, it was unrealistic to expect him to keep up the 90+ point pace he was on through 30 games. And the offense drying up for Kopitar coincides with the team going from bad offensively to laughably bad offensively. There is simply nobody else in the lineup (save for maybe Fiala the off-chance he wants to show up) who could fill the void.

Trevor Moore could have been traded, perhaps a thinking GM sells high on a player coming off a career year, maybe he flips him for a draft pick or a right shot forward to add balance to the lineup, oh well maybe if Moore was from Toronto instead of Thousand Oaks that could have happened.

Alex Turcotte has been playing 1st line LW with Kempe and Kopitar most of the season, a hard working energy player with a great motor but a limited skillset, he could be a real asset as a 3rd liner but thanks to Blake, Hiller has almost no other option than to put him up in the lineup where his lack of offense is exposed.

But hey, lets keep piling on Trevor Lewis, if he were removed from the lineup everything would improve.

No problem, maybe they could bring up a young player from the farm to push them, oh wait cancel that, the Reign are filled with a bunch of older career AHL'ers on the top lines and the PP. I guess it's hard to have young talent in your AHL farm team when you trade high draft picks like candy for non-needle movers and to incentivize teams to take your trash away, but hey atleast the forward version of Colten Teubert is still in the organization and really killing it this season as a senior at BU!

And this summer, in all his wisdom Blake looks at his roster, decides he wants to trade ANOTHER high pick (a 2nd) + a 4th to improve it. Does he get a right-shot scorer? Does he get a puck moving left shot defenseman for the PP? Nope, he trades for the expiring contract of Tanner Jeannot, probably thinking that the Kings of all teams could turn back the clock three years and revive one of the single flukiest seasons I've ever seen since I started following this league. And I'm not saying some toughness wasn't needed (don't kill me @BigKing and @Johnny Utah ) but it should have come well after much more significant holes were filled, and it should have been addressed in free agency or by giving a lesser pick for a tougher guy who didn't spin the Triple 7 three seasons before. Only Blake would trade for the same guy who was involved in the most ridiculously lopsided trade in recent memory.

Sam McMaster is generally seen as the worst GM in team history, I think Blake is worse, I truly do. He inherited two hall-of-fame players still in the primes of their career and a stable ownership group (something McMaster never had) and was blessed with DL's best pick in years in Kempe. Blake's picks as a whole have been a massive flop, his trades have sucked, his decision to end the rebuild sucked. The only thing he's been able to do well for this team is to get a couple of guys on cap-friendly contracts. It's absolutely incredible that he is about to hit his 8 year anniversary as GM, despite zero playoff series wins and AEG paying multiple players around the league millions to play for other teams to clean up the mess Blake made.

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lol, nothing like a few losses to get the old faithful out proclaiming the season is over. And we are claiming the players are gutless? Good God, get a grip boys and sack up a little.
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You're right, people are only just now saying this and only say it after losses. It's not like these same things haven't been discussed for going on 4 calendar years now, since Blake decided the rebuild was over.

And how hilarious to criticize people for complaining about ZERO playoff success in eight seasons and prematurely writing the Kings off, from the guy who sends annual PM's in January proclaiming how wrong I am and asking me "If I'm ready to admit I was wrong about Blake" because the Kings are once again in 3rd place in a division where three of the teams are not even trying to compete. I actually thought maybe there would be some kind of awareness and you'd actually wait until the Kings (I don't know) win a playoff series? But nope, another one sent right on cue.

In a weird way I will miss those DM's when BLuc is gone. They are funnier than most of the holiday comedies that come out at the same time.

Oh and do me a favor, tell SN I said whats up.
 
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Just look at the lineup Hiller is forced to send out there. How can anyone still be surprised or in denial about the offense? It is almost February and Phil Danault has 4 goals and has been in a scoring line role all season and is still seeing PP time. He could still be somewhat serviceable in a lesser role, but it's just comical he is expected to produce offense because none of Blake and Yanetti's center picks can produce offense (well except for the one he traded away).

Kopitar, God bless him, but he's going to be 38 years old this summer, he has played 1400 NHL games, it was unrealistic to expect him to keep up the 90+ point pace he was on through 30 games. And the offense drying up for Kopitar coincides with the team going from bad offensively to laughably bad offensively. There is simply nobody else in the lineup (save for maybe Fiala the off-chance he wants to show up) who could fill the void.

Trevor Moore could have been traded, perhaps a thinking GM sells high on a player coming off a career year, maybe he flips him for a draft pick or a right shot forward to add balance to the lineup, oh well maybe if Moore was from Toronto instead of Thousand Oaks that could have happened.

Alex Turcotte has been playing 1st line LW with Kempe and Kopitar most of the season, a hard working energy player with a great motor but a limited skillset, he could be a real asset as a 3rd liner but thanks to Blake, Hiller has almost no other option than to put him up in the lineup where his lack of offense is exposed.

But hey, lets keep piling on Trevor Lewis, if he were removed from the lineup everything would improve.

No problem, maybe they could bring up a young player from the farm to push them, oh wait cancel that, the Reign are filled with a bunch of older career AHL'ers on the top lines and the PP. I guess it's hard to have young talent in your AHL farm team when you trade high draft picks like candy for non-needle movers and to incentivize teams to take your trash away, but hey atleast the forward version of Colten Teubert is still in the organization and really killing it this season as a senior at BU!

And this summer, in all his wisdom Blake looks at his roster, decides he wants to trade ANOTHER high pick (a 2nd) + a 4th to improve it. Does he get a right-shot scorer? Does he get a puck moving left shot defenseman for the PP? Nope, he trades for the expiring contract of Tanner Jeannot, probably thinking that the Kings of all teams could turn back the clock three years and revive one of the single flukiest seasons I've ever seen since I started following this league. And I'm not saying some toughness wasn't needed (don't kill me @BigKing and @Johnny Utah ) but it should have come well after much more significant holes were filled, and it should have been addressed in free agency or by giving a lesser pick for a tougher guy who didn't spin the Triple 7 three seasons before. Only Blake would trade for the same guy who was involved in the most ridiculously lopsided trade in recent memory.

Sam McMaster is generally seen as the worst GM in team history, I think Blake is worse, I truly do. He inherited two hall-of-fame players still in the primes of their career and a stable ownership group (something McMaster never had) and was blessed with DL's best pick in years in Kempe. Blake's picks as a whole have been a massive flop, his trades have sucked, his decision to end the rebuild sucked. The only thing he's been able to do well for this team is to get a couple of guys on cap-friendly contracts. It's absolutely incredible that he is about to hit his 8 year anniversary as GM, despite zero playoff series wins and AEG paying multiple players around the league millions to play for other teams to clean up the mess Blake made.


You're right, people are only just now saying this and only say it after losses. It's not like these same things haven't been discussed for going on 4 calendar years now, since Blake decided the rebuild was over.

And how hilarious to criticize people for complaining about ZERO playoff success in eight seasons and prematurely writing the Kings off, from the guy who sends annual PM's in January proclaiming how wrong I am and asking me "If I'm ready to admit I was wrong about Blake" because the Kings are once again in 3rd place in a division where three of the teams are not even trying to compete. I actually thought maybe there would be some kind of awareness and you'd actually wait until the Kings (I don't know) win a playoff series? But nope, another one sent right on cue.

In a weird way I will miss those DM's when BLuc is gone. They are funnier than most of the holiday comedies that come out at the same time.

Oh and do me a favor, tell SN I said whats up.
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So cute seeing how active Herby is when the Kings are losing...it's like a little boy on Xmas morning. (it's f***ing weird). Herby, say hi to Sol and Kontos for me.
 
Herby said:
Just look at the lineup Hiller is forced to send out there. How can anyone still be surprised or in denial about the offense? It is almost February and Phil Danault has 4 goals and has been in a scoring line role all season and is still seeing PP time. He could still be somewhat serviceable in a lesser role, but it's just comical he is expected to produce offense because none of Blake and Yanetti's center picks can produce offense (well except for the one he traded away).

Kopitar, God bless him, but he's going to be 38 years old this summer, he has played 1400 NHL games, it was unrealistic to expect him to keep up the 90+ point pace he was on through 30 games. And the offense drying up for Kopitar coincides with the team going from bad offensively to laughably bad offensively. There is simply nobody else in the lineup (save for maybe Fiala the off-chance he wants to show up) who could fill the void.

Trevor Moore could have been traded, perhaps a thinking GM sells high on a player coming off a career year, maybe he flips him for a draft pick or a right shot forward to add balance to the lineup, oh well maybe if Moore was from Toronto instead of Thousand Oaks that could have happened.

Alex Turcotte has been playing 1st line LW with Kempe and Kopitar most of the season, a hard working energy player with a great motor but a limited skillset, he could be a real asset as a 3rd liner but thanks to Blake, Hiller has almost no other option than to put him up in the lineup where his lack of offense is exposed.

But hey, lets keep piling on Trevor Lewis, if he were removed from the lineup everything would improve.

No problem, maybe they could bring up a young player from the farm to push them, oh wait cancel that, the Reign are filled with a bunch of older career AHL'ers on the top lines and the PP. I guess it's hard to have young talent in your AHL farm team when you trade high draft picks like candy for non-needle movers and to incentivize teams to take your trash away, but hey atleast the forward version of Colten Teubert is still in the organization and really killing it this season as a senior at BU!

And this summer, in all his wisdom Blake looks at his roster, decides he wants to trade ANOTHER high pick (a 2nd) + a 4th to improve it. Does he get a right-shot scorer? Does he get a puck moving left shot defenseman for the PP? Nope, he trades for the expiring contract of Tanner Jeannot, probably thinking that the Kings of all teams could turn back the clock three years and revive one of the single flukiest seasons I've ever seen since I started following this league. And I'm not saying some toughness wasn't needed (don't kill me @BigKing and @Johnny Utah ) but it should have come well after much more significant holes were filled, and it should have been addressed in free agency or by giving a lesser pick for a tougher guy who didn't spin the Triple 7 three seasons before. Only Blake would trade for the same guy who was involved in the most ridiculously lopsided trade in recent memory.

Sam McMaster is generally seen as the worst GM in team history, I think Blake is worse, I truly do. He inherited two hall-of-fame players still in the primes of their career and a stable ownership group (something McMaster never had) and was blessed with DL's best pick in years in Kempe. Blake's picks as a whole have been a massive flop, his trades have sucked, his decision to end the rebuild sucked. The only thing he's been able to do well for this team is to get a couple of guys on cap-friendly contracts. It's absolutely incredible that he is about to hit his 8 year anniversary as GM, despite zero playoff series wins and AEG paying multiple players around the league millions to play for other teams to clean up the mess Blake made.


You're right, people are only just now saying this and only say it after losses. It's not like these same things haven't been discussed for going on 4 calendar years now, since Blake decided the rebuild was over.

And how hilarious to criticize people for complaining about ZERO playoff success in eight seasons and prematurely writing the Kings off, from the guy who sends annual PM's in January proclaiming how wrong I am and asking me "If I'm ready to admit I was wrong about Blake" because the Kings are once again in 3rd place in a division where three of the teams are not even trying to compete. I actually thought maybe there would be some kind of awareness and you'd actually wait until the Kings (I don't know) win a playoff series? But nope, another one sent right on cue.

In a weird way I will miss those DM's when BLuc is gone. They are funnier than most of the holiday comedies that come out at the same time.

Oh and do me a favor, tell SN I said whats up.
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Last night sucked donkey balls, started out good, fizzled out before the 2nd period...and could never recover.

But Herby, what GM trades a 30 goal scorer who is locked down for multiple years....for a pick? I mean honestly, we advocate all this bullshit, without putting any thought into it.

This isn't video game hockey, the goal isn't to stay young, it's to win the cup, rightly or wrongly however you think Blake has done, there's not a GM in this f***ing league, that is going to trade a 29 year old 30 goal scorer who is locked down, unless there are some serious circumstances going on....

DeBrincat might be one of the few that I've seen traded, like that, and I don't think he was locked down, but was close to it as you can be being an RFA, other than that, who like that has been traded??

All these trades that we want to happen, just don't happen in the reality of sport.
 
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Last night sucked donkey balls, started out good, fizzled out before the 2nd period...and could never recover.

But Herby, what GM trades a 30 goal scorer who is locked down for multiple years....for a pick? I mean honestly, we advocate all this bullshit, without putting any thought into it.

This isn't video game hockey, the goal isn't to stay young, it's to win the cup, rightly or wrongly however you think Blake has done, there's not a GM in this f***ing league, that is going to trade a 29 year old 30 goal scorer who is locked down, unless there are some serious circumstances going on....

DeBrincat might be one of the few that I've seen traded, like that, and I don't think he was locked down, but was close to it as you can be being an RFA, other than that, who like that has been traded??

All these trades that we want to happen, just don't happen in the reality of sport.
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Who said they needed to trade for anyone locked down?

The Kings could have traded Moore for a draft pick, flipped the draft pick for Laine and just not gotten involved in the joke that is Jeannot and his bloated salary. Would you rather have Laine (at 1/3 retained) and Akil Thomas or Moore and Jeannot? Does Laine have his hiccups? Yes he does, and you will surely point it out like you do every single time there is a scorer available that might address the Kings woeful skill level. But he would have drastically helped our PP and his shortcomings at ES would have been masked by Kopitar and Kempe. Not everyone needs to be a good checker. The Kings are content with multiple offensive black holes (in scoring roles no less) but it's sacrilege to suggest bringing in a player who sucks defensively, why? Why can't we have players who aren't good defensively in scoring line roles, but it's ok to have guys like Danault and Turcotte who aren't good offensively in offensive roles? How does that make any sense?

They could have drafted Cole Caufield, but he wouldn't fit in their system and was to small and they probably never considered it
They could have traded for Jack Eichel but he came with to much risk and they didn't want to trade players they traded for Walmart Eichel shortly after.
They could have traded for DeBrincat but he's to small and wouldn't fit the system
They could have signed Patrick Kane but he isn't good defensively.

I'm sorry GBH, but it's ludicrous to suggest that the horrific state of this team when it comes to skill and finishers was unavoidable. The "How could Blake have known excuse" makes no sense. This GM had four picks in the Top 11 in his first 5 drafts and what was universally rated as a Top 3 (and in most publications #1) prospect pool when the guy who currently is on pace for 100 points for a division rival was on the market at 25 years old, instead we stupidly passed and then proceeded to trade the two best players he drafted for lesser players than the ones I listed above, who also happened to come with their own baggage and worse contracts than all of those guys.

Rob Blake has been GM of this team for 8 years, he has acquired every player on this roster except for Kempe, Doughty and Kopitar, which is funny because they are the three best players on the team. Whatever success or failure this roster has, it's all on his shoulders.



It's just absolutely incredible to me that you place almost no blame for the state of this roster on the man who has been the GM since April of 2017.
 
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Omni Owl said:
One thing I noticed was the absolute gutlessness of that loss. Zero physicality or drive, maybe only a little after they went down 4-2 but by then it was too late. I'll give credit to Fiala, he actually looked like his dynamic old self. Like I've been saying, missing the playoffs would be a blessing in disguise. Hopefully we'll be finally rid of the atrocity that is the 3 headed beast in Blucgevin.
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Almost no chance big changes get made this year. The excuse of Doughty missing half the season is right there and too convenient. So at best Blake is let go, but then we get BargainBin as the new GM of the Kings, so things aren't getting better anytime soon sadly.
 
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Who said they needed to trade for anyone locked down?

The Kings could have traded Moore for a draft pick, flipped the draft pick for Laine and just not gotten involved in the joke that is Jeannot and his bloated salary. Would you rather have Laine (at 1/3 retained) and Akil Thomas or Moore and Jeannot? Does Laine have his hiccups? Yes he does, and you will surely point it out like you do every single time there is a scorer available that might address the Kings woeful skill level. But he would have drastically helped our PP and his shortcomings at ES would have been masked by Kopitar and Kempe. Not everyone needs to be a good checker. The Kings are content with multiple offensive black holes (in scoring roles no less) but it's sacrilege to suggest bringing in a player who sucks defensively, why? Why can't we have players who aren't good defensively in scoring line roles, but it's ok to have guys like Danault and Turcotte who aren't good offensively in offensive roles? How does that make any sense?

They could have drafted Cole Caufield, but he wouldn't fit in their system and was to small and they probably never considered it
They could have traded for Jack Eichel but he came with to much risk and they didn't want to trade players they traded for Walmart Eichel shortly after.
They could have traded for DeBrincat but he's to small and wouldn't fit the system
They could have signed Patrick Kane but he isn't good defensively.

I'm sorry GBH, but it's ludicrous to suggest that the horrific state of this team when it comes to skill and finishers was unavoidable. The "How could Blake have known excuse" makes no sense. This GM had four picks in the Top 11 in his first 5 drafts and what was universally rated as a Top 3 (and in most publications #1) prospect pool when the guy who currently is on pace for 100 points for a division rival was on the market at 25 years old, instead we stupidly passed and then proceeded to trade the two best players he drafted for lesser players than the ones I listed above, who also happened to come with their own baggage and worse contracts than all of those guys.

Rob Blake has been GM of this team for 8 years, he has acquired every player on this roster except for Kempe, Doughty and Kopitar, which is funny because they are the three best players on the team. Whatever success or failure this roster has, it's all on his shoulders.



It's just absolutely incredible to me that you place almost no blame for the state of this roster on the man who has been the GM since April of 2017.
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I said, what teams have traded 30 goal scorers that were already locked down, already signed under team control....not having to trade for locked down players,

What you are saying should happen, DOESN'T HAPPEN IN PRO SPORTS.
 
tigermask48 said:
Almost no chance big changes get made this year. The excuse of Doughty missing half the season is right there and too convenient. So at best Blake is let go, but then we get BargainBin as the new GM of the Kings, so things aren't getting better anytime soon sadly.
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The ‘excuse’ put the Kings in a position of top 5 in the league. Try harder, bud.
 
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Almost no chance big changes get made this year. The excuse of Doughty missing half the season is right there and too convenient. So at best Blake is let go, but then we get BargainBin as the new GM of the Kings, so things aren't getting better anytime soon sadly.
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I'm hoping all 3 will be jettisoned ASAP but I guess that's wishful thinking. Trying to think who would be a serviceable GM replacement but I'm blanking rn.
 
Snore. guess nobody cares much about a mid-season Monday loss to TMac. Throws a wrench into that goofy theory.

But seriously, this game was an easy expected loss. The Lord of the regular season Tmac playing against his former team -- who is currently reeling a bit and can't score.
 
Omni Owl said:
One thing I noticed was the absolute gutlessness of that loss. Zero physicality or drive, maybe only a little after they went down 4-2 but by then it was too late. I'll give credit to Fiala, he actually looked like his dynamic old self. Like I've been saying, missing the playoffs would be a blessing in disguise. Hopefully we'll be finally rid of the atrocity that is the 3 headed beast in Blucgevin.
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felt to me like mikey was the only one who had his finger on the pulse

especially after seider took those few runs in the 3rd he was the only one dishing it back, everyone else is emotionally flatlined. that 4th line with lewis in is too slow and unskilled to bang so they can't even be played
 
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