GDT: 2024-25 season game 34 LA Kings vs Washington Capitals @2:00pm 12/22/24

SherVaughn30

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Not even remotely the system's issue, it's they don't shoot the f***ing puck problem....
That is a result of the system. Kings don't play aggressive to create offense because they emphasize too much to protect their net. Frankly, I think some of the younger offensive players are afraid to make mistakes, hence why they have lack of creativity or shooting the puck. After Kempe/Laf, who else is shooting the puck regularly. Kings need to acquire a goal scorer via trade or free agency. This team has had lack of goal scorers, ever since the Gretzky days!
 

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That is a result of the system. Kings don't play aggressive to create offense because they emphasize too much to protect their net. Frankly, I think some of the younger offensive players are afraid to make mistakes, hence why they have lack of creativity or shooting the puck. After Kempe/Laf, who else is shooting the puck regularly. Kings need to acquire a goal scorer via trade or free agency. This team has had lack of goal scorers, ever since the Gretzky days!

Wait...what? Forgive me it's late, but this doesn't make any sense junior.

The result of the offense being shit right now, is they protect their own net too much?

No the result of the offense being shit right now is they are TRYING TO CREATE TOO MUCH, BEING TOO f***ING FANCY,

It's simple, whomever has the puck, f***ING SHOOT IT. whomever doesn't have the puck, GO TO THE f***ING NET. They do that...I guarantee you their offense improves.

That is a result of the system. Kings don't play aggressive to create offense because they emphasize too much to protect their net. Frankly, I think some of the younger offensive players are afraid to make mistakes, hence why they have lack of creativity or shooting the puck. After Kempe/Laf, who else is shooting the puck regularly. Kings need to acquire a goal scorer via trade or free agency. This team has had lack of goal scorers, ever since the Gretzky days!

Read this afterwards...but...EXACTLY, they aren't shooting the puck, that has nothing to do with system.
 
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Wait...what? Forgive me it's late, but this doesn't make any sense junior.

The result of the offense being shit right now, is they protect their own net too much?

No the result of the offense being shit right now is they are TRYING TO CREATE TOO MUCH, BEING TOO f***ING FANCY,

It's simple, whomever has the puck, f***ING SHOOT IT. whomever doesn't have the puck, GO TO THE f***ING NET. They do that...I guarantee you their offense improves.
I agree. Back at the pinnacle of the Kings success, they were throwing more pucks at the net and bearing down.

The Kings are trying way too hard to wait for the stars to align for each shot.
 

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Wait...what? Forgive me it's late, but this doesn't make any sense junior.

The result of the offense being shit right now, is they protect their own net too much?

No the result of the offense being shit right now is they are TRYING TO CREATE TOO MUCH, BEING TOO f***ING FANCY,

It's simple, whomever has the puck, f***ING SHOOT IT. whomever doesn't have the puck, GO TO THE f***ING NET. They do that...I guarantee you their offense improves.



Read this afterwards...but...EXACTLY, they aren't shooting the puck, that has nothing to do with system.
Shooting the puck more might increase scoring chances, but doesn't equate exactly to more goal scoring(years ago Kings would out shoot most teams but didn't have goals to always show for it). This team overpasses because they don't show confidence in scoring goals from inside the circles. They lack goal scoring shooters. It's a problem on their PP as well. Give the Caps some credit tonight too, as they beat the Kings at their own game! For a Kings team that is top 5 in defending/GAA, their transition game from defense to offense is not very good. One thing more I'll add, where is the offense from their D?! I have said this before on these boards. The Kings don't have much of offensive threat scoring other than Doughty/Clarke on the back end. Drive more offense from the D, and you will get more scoring opportunities from the forwards. Caps have offense generated from Carlson/Chychrun/Sandin, which means opponents have to respect the Caps back end. If there is something the Kings need to address during this season and in the offseason, getting another offensive d-man and also adding a pure shooting goal scorer.
 
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I agree. Back at the pinnacle of the Kings success, they were throwing more pucks at the net and bearing down.

The Kings are trying way too hard to wait for the stars to align for each shot.
Sorry, but NHL trends are changing regarding goal scoring in general. Less teams are shooting volumes of shots and emphasizing more with creative passing/shooting off of transition/speed. That is one of the reasons why overall goal scoring is on the rise.

What is it with this tic tac toe passing and never shooting? Who is watching the game footage and saying, "Yes, let's do more of this type of plays."
Far more NHL teams are going in this direction...
 

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The creme de la creme of passing insanity today was perimeter passing on the 6x5.. there are 2 more players on the ice vs a 5x4 and much fewer lane opportunities. And the manpower difference is 12% vs 20%. The strategy should be totally different - pucks to the net or anywhere down low w passes to the slot followed by net crashing. These guys were passing around the horn for 30 seconds looking for a play followed by a turnover.
 

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Shooting the puck more might increase scoring chances, but doesn't equate exactly to more goal scoring(years ago Kings would out shoot most teams but didn't have goals to always show for it). This team overpasses because they don't show confidence in scoring goals from inside the circles. They lack goal scoring shooters. It's a problem on their PP as well. Give the Caps some credit tonight too, as they beat the Kings at their own game! For a Kings team that is top 5 in defending/GAA, their transition game from defense to offense is not very good. One thing more I'll add, where is the offense from their D?! I have said this before on these boards. The Kings don't have much of offensive threat scoring other than Doughty/Clarke on the back end. Drive more offense from the D, and you will get more scoring opportunities from the forwards. Caps have offense generated from Carlson/Chychrun/Sandin, which means opponents have to respect the Caps back end. If there is something the Kings need to address during this season and in the offseason, getting another offensive d-man and also adding a pure shooting goal scorer.
The lack of D offensive skill has bothered me for years.. They seem ok with a top 4 of mostly stay at home guy or puck movers - but zero offensive creativity. 8/44, 84/3 last season. None of those guys create offense.. Drew does occasionally but his game is more settling things down and breaking out.. not making plays in. the o-zone. W 84 and 44, I always get bummed when they get passed to in the o-zone because frequently the plays die on their stick. Now they have Clarke but arent really let him do his thing.. at the beginning of the season they did - and then they cut his nuts. Its basically the King philosophy to always err on the side of conservatism in play.. which they even apply to 3x3.
 
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Well they didn't with only scoring 2 goals against a young backup goalie the Preds just acquired recently.

No shit. You asked 'why.' The reasoning was simple. The results weren't there.


Shooting the puck more might increase scoring chances, but doesn't equate exactly to more goal scoring(years ago Kings would out shoot most teams but didn't have goals to always show for it). This team overpasses because they don't show confidence in scoring goals from inside the circles. They lack goal scoring shooters. It's a problem on their PP as well. Give the Caps some credit tonight too, as they beat the Kings at their own game! For a Kings team that is top 5 in defending/GAA, their transition game from defense to offense is not very good. One thing more I'll add, where is the offense from their D?! I have said this before on these boards. The Kings don't have much of offensive threat scoring other than Doughty/Clarke on the back end. Drive more offense from the D, and you will get more scoring opportunities from the forwards. Caps have offense generated from Carlson/Chychrun/Sandin, which means opponents have to respect the Caps back end. If there is something the Kings need to address during this season and in the offseason, getting another offensive d-man and also adding a pure shooting goal scorer.

One thing I really liked that the Caps did that the Kings could never was work the everliving crap out of the high cycle with 3 guys, much easier to do with those 3 and high end offensive forwards than it is with Kings two-way guys and like Anderson/Gavrikov/Moverare/Burroughs. Being able to do that opened up better things for the Caps. You know exactly where the Kings are going with the puck because their d-men are not a threat, and as good as Clarke is, he's not a huge threat to score from the point either, it's why it's so easy to funnel the already-offensively-limited Kings.
 
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Axl Rhoadz

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@All The Kings Men - did Hiller give any explanation for why he chose to play Kuemper against NSH over WSH? Not saying it would have made a certain difference, but It just seems that would of made more sense.
 

Herby

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He is on pace to be right back to the low 60's point totals he consistently had for much of his career. Last year was just a perfect storm, the Kings overpaid in assets and cap hit (thinking there was some untapped potential in a 25 year old) and then he not only didn't show any of that untapped potential, had his worst season of his career.

Caps came out of it well, a year after the Kings overpaid for a 60 point player, they got a 60 point player (albeit with obvious flaws) out of the bargain bin for a 5+m goalie. I still think that he is much like Danault (with obv style differences), just not sure you can win a Stanley Cup with that caliber guy as your 2C unless your 1C is a mega star on the McDavid/MacKinnon level.
 

Herby

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It’s weird the Caps gave Kuemper a tribute during the game. We better not see any “Welcome back PLD” moments on the Jumbotron when they come to LA.

He will be booo'ed everytime he touches the puck, and then immediately offered the GM job by Dan Beckerman.
 

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