GDT: 2024-25 season game 31 LA Kings vs Pittsburgh Penguins @ 4:00pm 12/17/24

[chris kontos]

Let down game tonight and one that lack of scoring from some players, came back bite them in butt! Wasn't able to watch the game, but saw 1-0 and 2-1 leads. Kings are not getting those insurance goals to put the game away(take away all the empty net goals). Pens are awful defensively and not much better goaltending wise, but they have enough offense to come from behind in games.

Byfield continues to be a ghost. At the rate he's going, he won't match his 55 points from last season. He seems to have digressed. The type of coach Hiller is, when certain players are in big scoring slumps, he is not the type of coach with the rest of this coaching staff to tap into players going again offensively. I strongly believe Byfield can be a 1C, but not with this coach and system. I'm going to say it anyways(I know it will stir up quite a bit of ppl here), Byfield's production slumps at times reflect what happened to PLD. The examples of both have similarities. PLD showed flashes, but wasn't consistent offensively, and the same thing is happening to Byfield.

The two teams the Kings are strongly competing with, Vegas/Oilers, are good offensive teams. Playing defense first, good goaltending with some marginal goal scoring where the team sits on leads, is not enough to even win a 1st round considering this team is not good enough to win the Pacific Division(I see them ending in 3rd place if there is some good fortune ahead, as the Oilers will pass them).

its obvious you didnt watch the game and who gives a f*** what happens to washington and pld?

 

[AbsentMojo]

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He also made a point of criticising himself for not playing Turcotte more.

This team has a pattern of only giving guys a shot after injuries...color me not impressed w the self-reflection

 

[Fripp]

That was one of the most incredible tips I've ever seen.

 

[kings11]

He didnt say anything about trading Kopitar

I misinterpreted your comment of trading those guys as meaning rebuilding around those two… no wonder that didn’t make sense

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

You mean dekes then? Maybe Qb does have him beat in dekes. The first goal is bad ass but when I think of game breaking talent I am thinking of a player who takes over games and Byfield has come no where close to doing that enough to be considered a game breaking talent.

Dekes, Speed, Power, Control. Turcotte isn't ever going to be the type to dangle a norris candidate. And that's fine, he can still be even an elite player without that.

Byfield has exhibited that talent...he can be a total unicorn. The question is obviously consistency and desire. But you're moving the goalposts saying he doesn't do it ENOUGH. We all agree on that. You just asked where the gamebreaking talent IS that turcotte doesn't have. Asked and answered.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

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This team has a pattern of only giving guys a shot after injuries...color me not impressed w the self-reflection

There is no pattern - but hey, we can make stuff up to shit on the org because why not?

 

[AbsentMojo]

There is no pattern - but hey, we can make stuff up to shit on the org because why not?

If you could get the pom poms out your line of vision, you could see it as well : ) welcome back Axl, how was the half way house, and do u still have to wear the ankle bracelet?

 

[King'sPawn]

Dekes, Speed, Power, Control. Turcotte isn't ever going to be the type to dangle a norris candidate. And that's fine, he can still be even an elite player without that.

Byfield has exhibited that talent...he can be a total unicorn. The question is obviously consistency and desire. But you're moving the goalposts saying he doesn't do it ENOUGH. We all agree on that. You just asked where the gamebreaking talent IS that turcotte doesn't have. Asked and answered.

Exactly. Turcotte has put it all together and is doing so consistently. Byfield has a collection of individual skills that he hasn't consistently put things together for longer than half a season.

We've also seen growth in his decision-making; in earlier years, he broke free of the fly-by poke-check. In recent days, he's trying to shoot more and not constantly deferring.

It's understandably not enough for some people. But it truly seems the most vocal against him can't appreciate or recognize any growth, and are much more comfortable in meming and shallow snark.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Exactly. Turcotte has put it all together and is doing so consistently. Byfield has a collection of individual skills that he hasn't consistently put things together for longer than half a season.

We've also seen growth in his decision-making; in earlier years, he broke free of the fly-by poke-check. In recent days, he's trying to shoot more and not constantly deferring.

It's understandably not enough for some people. But it truly seems the most vocal against him can't appreciate or recognize any growth, and are much more comfortable in meming and shallow snark.

I agree wholeheartedly. But the above wasn't even about growth, or consistency, which I think is totally fair to hold various different opinions on--it's do the abilities actually EXIST and it's like I don't know how anyone can watch the literal goal of the year and go 'hmm yeah doesn't even have it in him'

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

If you could get the pom poms out your line of vision, you could see it as well : ) welcome back Axl, how was the half way house, and do u still have to wear the ankle bracelet?

I would get booted 6 months for 'flaming' with a post like that.

 

[Bandit]

He also made a point of criticising himself for not playing Turcotte more.

I too criticize myself for not doing things I have full control over.

 

[tigermask48]

I would get booted 6 months for 'flaming' with a post like that.

Maybe you should take a lesson from that and not be so antagonistic? Never mind, you're right, all the rest of us are the problem.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Maybe you should take a lesson from that and not be so antagonistic? Never mind, you're right, all the rest of us are the problem.

Preaching positivity in Kings fandom is considered being antagonistic?? Oh yeah, around here it is.

 

[AbsentMojo]

I would get booted 6 months for 'flaming' with a post like that.

What exactly got you the 6. months? and i commend you for doing your time and paying society back for your transgression(s)

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

What exactly got you the 6. months? and i commend you for doing your time and paying society back for your transgression(s)

Not a lot, that's for sure! That's what happens when you're not a part of the 'old boys club'. Oh, and actually it was 9 months.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Not a lot, that's for sure! That's what happens when you're not a part of the 'old boys club'. Oh, and actually it was 9 months.

‘The old boys club’ now had a free pass for 9 months.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I too criticize myself for not doing things I have full control over.

You really SHOULD be having more sex with Scarlett Johansson. Failure.

 

[Lt Dan]

Not a lot, that's for sure! That's what happens when you're not a part of the 'old boys club'. Oh, and actually it was 9 months.

oh.... so you were pregnant!?

 

[Statto]

I too criticize myself for not doing things I have full control over.

You know the point I’m making. He’s open, honest and then responds. He said he should have played Turcotte more, then did.

 

[Schrute farms]

I can't stand when people talk in absolutes. You lose all respect from me when you do that. There is no conversation & discussion with someone like that.

As if there is no positive posts ever -- young players doing well (Turc, Laf, etc.), Hiller's improvement, drafting, toughness, Foegele, Clarke, team doing well, PK/defense, etc. But one critical post and it's complete & utter hell on earth. smh. What happened to good old conversation, discussion and debates. Spirited debate and then beers together afterward is what this Nation was built upon.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

oh.... so you were pregnant!?

Explains Surf Nutz, doesnt it?

I can't stand when people talk in absolutes. You lose all respect from me when you do that. There is no conversation & discussion with someone like that.

As if there is no positive posts ever -- young players doing well (Turc, Laf, etc.), Hiller's improvement, drafting, toughness, Foegele, Clarke, team doing well, PK/defense, etc. But one critical post and it's complete & utter hell on earth. smh. What happened to good old conversation, discussion and debates. Spirited debate and then beers together afterward is what this Nation was built upon.

Microcosm of reality unfortunately.....it's a shame.

 

[Sol]

Dekes, Speed, Power, Control. Turcotte isn't ever going to be the type to dangle a norris candidate. And that's fine, he can still be even an elite player without that.

Byfield has exhibited that talent...he can be a total unicorn. The question is obviously consistency and desire. But you're moving the goalposts saying he doesn't do it ENOUGH. We all agree on that. You just asked where the gamebreaking talent IS that turcotte doesn't have. Asked and answered.

I don’t consider the odd play to be game breaking talent. Game breaking talent is when a player can do it consistently. You’re reaching heavily. You’re even inaccurate definitionally.

I am not sure if your misuse of the term is due to your blind love for the player however

“gamebreaking talent" in sports refers to an athlete possessing such exceptional ability in a specific area that it essentially allows them to single-handedly dominate a game, often making it seem like the opposing team has no chance to win, essentially "breaking" the game in their favor; it's considered a level of talent far beyond the norm, often seen as almost unfair due to its overwhelming impact”

Byfield scores nice goals rarely but he almost never dominates a game.

Try to be consistent in your logic.

 

[Herby]

What happened to good old conversation, discussion and debates.

His 9-month prison sentence ended.

There is no pattern - but hey, we can make stuff up to shit on the org because why not?

It's truly amazing that you of all people, the person who has attributed so many false comments to many different posters on this forum is now angry about stuff being made up.

Rules for thee but not for me.

 

[King'sPawn]

Not that mods are beyond reproach, but it always says a lot about someone when they try to absolve themselves of responsibilities for their actions when they accuse mods of supporting "the old boys club".

There are plenty of people who disagree passionately, and maybe even crossed lines. A lot of people get into it with GBH but he doesn't get punished by mods.

But it's unsurprising that people who can't discuss issues honestly want to blame everybody else for their inability to get along.

 

[FeartheFur]

Ok. Byfield does more then play offense. He is like a baby Kopitar. Turcotte reminds me of Williams. No offense to one of the greatest player we ever had.