GDT: 2024-25 season game 2 LA Kings vs Boston Bruins @10:00am 10/12/24

[johnjm22]

I love Fiala as much as the next fan, but Kings could really use Faber right now.

Imagine...

Anderson-Faber
Gavrikov-Spence
Edmundson-Clarke

It wouldn't happen though, the Kings assests were RHD and now they are all gone. Walker to dump the horrible Peterson contract, Durzi for a 2nd then flipped in the PLD deal, and Faber for Fiala.

Really, the Durzi trade is the worst. Anything related to PLD is terrible. Even with Kuemper playing well he is not worth Durzi, Iafallo, Vilardi, and Kupari.

Kings needed to dump the 4 million in AI and Kupari is likely a bust, but Vilardi and Durzi for a player even the fans knew was toxic and lazy. Terrible.

We'd also have additional prospects in the system right now because we gave up a 1st for Fiala as well. And if we had to move some RHD to make room we'd have had other picks too.

 

[tbrown33]

Which brings us back around to the original premise... they're paying SOMEONE so why NOT pay the younger players?

The organization tells us what they value by spending the money WHERE they indeed spend it. And they do not invest a significant amount into their younger players vs tenured vets compared to the rest of the league. And when everyone else is signing their young studs to 8x8s, Byfield gets a bridge. Meanwhile, Kopitar gets 7 mill/year at the age of 37.

 

[chris kontos]

This is a perfect opportunity to demonstrate why wacko conspiracy theories are just that... wacko.

It's not that there couldn't be any truth to it it's just that you don't really need any inside info to see why it's flawed.

The Kings are a cap team.

Why should they care who they pay the money to?

What difference does it make if the money goes to Brandt Clarke or Joel Edmundson?
What difference does it make if the money goes to Quinton Byfield or Pierre Luc Dubois?

This isn't a case of a team NOT spending money... the team spends money all over the place on and off the ice.

The issue is where and how the money is spent.

The point i attempt to make is that the present kings management is more interested in having a money making hockey organization and keeping thier jobs than the on ice product being competitive. Its hard for me to believe that moves made regarding the team are due to incompetence or stupidity.
Also its spelled Hanlon's. Also its a law and not a razor. You may be thinking of occam's razor witch deals with simplicity

 

[chris kontos]

Tradition wins is a raft of shit

 

[All The Kings Men]

The point i attempt to make is that the present kings management is more interested in having a money making hockey organization and keeping thier jobs than the on ice product being competitive. Its hard for me to believe that moves made regarding the team are due to incompetence or stupidity.
Also its spelled Hanlon's. Also its a law and not a razor. You may be thinking of occam's razor witch deals with simplicity

Hanlon’s Razor - The Decision Lab

Hanlon’s Razor is a heuristic device that tells us not to assume malicious intent behind actions when a lack of awareness or knowledge can adequately explain the actions.

thedecisionlab.com

 

[DoktorJeep]

The organization tells us what they value by spending the money WHERE they indeed spend it. And they do not invest a significant amount into their younger players vs tenured vets compared to the rest of the league. And when everyone else is signing their young studs to 8x8s, Byfield gets a bridge. Meanwhile, Kopitar gets 7 mill/year at the age of 37.

No one ever got fired for hiring IBM.

 

[SaltyElkHunter]

This is a perfect opportunity to demonstrate why wacko conspiracy theories are just that... wacko.

It's not that there couldn't be any truth to it it's just that you don't really need any inside info to see why it's flawed.

The Kings are a cap team.

Why should they care who they pay the money to?

What difference does it make if the money goes to Brandt Clarke or Joel Edmundson?
What difference does it make if the money goes to Quinton Byfield or Pierre Luc Dubois?

This isn't a case of a team NOT spending money... the team spends money all over the place on and off the ice.

The issue is where and how the money is spent.

They never should have gave that much money to Edmundson. Problem is what ever you over pay a vet you can’t pay a rookie if he performs (longer term with Byfield) . This team 100% overpays the wrong players. I’ll wait for an argument on that one.

 

[All The Kings Men]

They never should have gave that much money to Edmundson. Problem is what ever you over pay a vet you can’t pay a rookie if he performs (longer term with Byfield) . This team 100% overpays the wrong players. I’ll wait for an argument on that one.

You guys love to attribute arguments to me that I never made.

I'm NOT going to sit here and tell you the organization never makes mistakes or never does things that I don't understand.

I WILL tell you when someone has a concern that is demonstrably untrue or easily dismissed.

The Kings are NOT sabotaging their own prospects in order to avoid paying them more money in the future.

If I were the GM I'd have put Byfield and Clarke into the lineup the first day I possibly could but that's NOT what we're talking about.

 

[Surf Nutz]

Turc - QB - Fiala

I think we're using evidence to refute a statement without addressing the totality of it.

Yes, the Kings are a cap team. But there are known benefits that all teams get from "letting a contract slide." It allows them to keep young talent longer without having to give them a raise.

It's not inherently bad, nor is it exclusively with the Kings. But to the point where there "may be some truth," I feel there may be some truth to the suggestion that the Kings might overplay or overuse that tactic.

I know Clarke gets used a lot in this scenario, but he was a player Yannetti has said could have made the team two years ago. But they healthy scratched him for over a month before sending him to the WJC camp. After camp, they finally sent him back down to the OHL.

If their director of amateur scouting admits he was good enough for the team then, what is the purpose to send him down to the OHL? Well, he only played 9 professional games. Then they used a loophole of sending him to the AHL as a conditioning stint. This allowed them to slide the contract for another year.

So, I don't think the Kings are actively sabotaging players so they don't pay them - but they make decisions where keeping cost-controlled contracts for a longer period of time seemingly takes priority to integrating youth into the roster, and although likely unintentional, I think it's happening at the detriment of the player.

I think if the kid clearly earns it he is up like Laferriere and Lee.

But the young D's Spence and Clarke were too much of a liability.

Holding salary down is probably a secondary consideration.

I love Fiala as much as the next fan, but Kings could really use Faber right now.

Imagine...

Anderson-Faber
Gavrikov-Spence
Edmundson-Clarke

It wouldn't happen though, the Kings assests were RHD and now they are all gone. Walker to dump the horrible Peterson contract, Durzi for a 2nd then flipped in the PLD deal, and Faber for Fiala.

Really, the Durzi trade is the worst. Anything related to PLD is terrible. Even with Kuemper playing well he is not worth Durzi, Iafallo, Vilardi, and Kupari.

Kings needed to dump the 4 million in AI and Kupari is likely a bust, but Vilardi and Durzi for a player even the fans knew was toxic and lazy. Terrible.

Durzi'd was great offensively but his defensive lapses were terrible and daggers like the elimination goal in Edmonton where he was looking at the ref for a

whistle that never came.

 

[chris kontos]

Laferriere earned his spot...