GDT: 2024-25 season game 11 LA Kings vs Vegas Golden Knights @7:00pm 10/30/24

GoldenBearHockey

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And the trade came with a large contract extension for Fiala while the ANA/PHI one allowed ANA to have a guy on his full ELC.

I don't believe I said teams wouldn't trade promising young defenseman for a proven scoring forward because they obviously do, you just don't want to be the ones on the losing end of McDonagh for Gomez or Sergachev for Drouin.

You don't wanna be on the losing side of any trade....I don't think the Fiala trade is a winner/loser situation though,

Other one which is a long time now go figure was the Seth Jones for Ryan Johannson deal....
 

bland

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Second in rookie scoring. Second in Calder votes. No. 1 defenseman (6th overall average ice time in entire league among all blueliners).

"Not that good."

First we were wrong for hating the trade because of what we thought he could become. Now we're wrong for hating the trade because of what he's become.

You can't make this up.

Yeah, nobody following the game with even a remedial understanding would state something as ridiculous as that. Its just an attention grab.
 

Raccoon Jesus

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Gentle reminder that if we got Fiala for a playoff boost

He is one of the worst playoff no shows of the generation

turns from a 60+ point avg player in the regular season to a 40 point player in the playoffs and thats without discussing the turnovers, liabilities, and penalties.

Yeah, nobody following the game with even a remedial understanding would state something as ridiculous as that. Its just an attention grab.

seriously, that's just absolute shit talking to the extent I wonder if we're all even talking about the same player.
 

BaileyFan

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Gentle reminder that if we got Fiala for a playoff boost

He is one of the worst playoff no shows of the generation

turns from a 60+ point avg player in the regular season to a 40 point player in the playoffs and thats without discussing the turnovers, liabilities, and penalties.



seriously, that's just absolute shit talking to the extent I wonder if we're all even talking about the same player.
Company line has evolved from “He would never have signed here anyway” to “Actually he’s just not that good”.
 

King'sPawn

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And the trade came with a large contract extension for Fiala while the ANA/PHI one allowed ANA to have a guy on his full ELC.

I don't believe I said teams wouldn't trade promising young defenseman for a proven scoring forward because they obviously do, you just don't want to be the ones on the losing end of McDonagh for Gomez or Sergachev for Drouin.
Most notably, part of the reason Lombardi preached "build from the net out" is because of the time it takes for players to settle into their role. With goaltenders, so much of it is mentality, it takes time to mature. But defensemen can take time, and at the point of the trade, their defensemen on the right side (as far as prospects) were Durzi, Spence, Clarke, and Walker. Clarke had upside of a No. 1 defenseman, but they slow-boiled him. Nobody expected Durzi, Spence, or Walker to be a top-pairing guy.

As high as I was on Clarke, he also could have (and still could) miss. It's the antithesis of the Johnson trade, where Voynov was already on the same level as he (and he filled the RD slot to Johnson's Left-handed shot).

It was bad timing for the Fiala trade. The team needed a rebuild and to infuse its roster with a younger core. Not trading youth for another hurrah with the older core.
 

Surf Nutz

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There's a bad case of Faberitis spreading on this board.

Get your computers vaccinated.

Rob's job was to make the playoffs +

He completed half the job.

I would hate not going to the playoffs, I am with AEG on this aspect.
 

kilowatt

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Faber is almost a spitting image of Drew Doughty and I wouldn’t be surprised if he won a Norris at some point in his career. I don’t think there’s an active defenseman that more closely resembles Doughty’s game than Brock. Maybe a guy like McAvoy? That’s pretty good company.
 
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