Speculation: 2024-25 Roster thread

MMC

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Team is 28th in the standings, 24th in goal differential, 26th in PP%, bottom 10 always seemed about reasonable for this season and an improvement on the last 2, you'd then hope next season is the jump to being in playoff contention
 
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Rooch

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Team is 28th in the standings, 24th in goal differential, 26th in PP%, bottom 10 always seemed about reasonable for this season and an improvement on the last 2, you'd then hope next season is the jump to being in playoff contention
This is what Verbeek said LAST season. They tried to mollify us with new unis and new on-ice graphics, which seems to have been an ample distraction for some people. But the hockey team has been running in place for six years. Are we foolish to expect change when the man at the top has shown very little aptitude for general managing?
 

MMC

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This is what Verbeek said LAST season. They tried to mollify us with new unis and new on-ice graphics, which seems to have been an ample distraction for some people. But the hockey team has been running in place for six years. Are we foolish to expect change when the man at the top has shown very little aptitude for general managing?
I’m sure he wanted that to be the case. Once the offseason went the way it did, this current result was much more likely
 

Reveille1984

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There's no way Verbeek actually believed that this could be a competitive roster, it's just your typical executive lip service. Even if he ends up not becoming a great GM, you don't rise to this level by being a complete dumbass with talent evaluation. The OC is a historically ultra soft media market, where he's not gonna get lambasted or held accountable for much and he knows it.

The only thing that "fixes" a teardown rebuild is your high end picks becoming high end NHL talent, and so far the jury's out on that (and probably will be for at least another few years). The terribleness is just amplified this season since the "older" kids have been mostly invisible, and the vets have been anywhere from bad to hot garbage on top of that.
 

Smirnov2Chistov

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This is what Verbeek said LAST season. They tried to mollify us with new unis and new on-ice graphics, which seems to have been an ample distraction for some people. But the hockey team has been running in place for six years. Are we foolish to expect change when the man at the top has shown very little aptitude for general managing?

He's mostly lip service. What else do you expect from a first time GM and a first time HC?

nothing short of a disaster!
 

robbieboy3686

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There's no way Verbeek actually believed that this could be a competitive roster, it's just your typical executive lip service. Even if he ends up not becoming a great GM, you don't rise to this level by being a complete dumbass with talent evaluation. The OC is a historically ultra soft media market, where he's not gonna get lambasted or held accountable for much and he knows it.

The only thing that "fixes" a teardown rebuild is your high end picks becoming high end NHL talent, and so far the jury's out on that (and probably will be for at least another few years). The terribleness is just amplified this season since the "older" kids have been mostly invisible, and the vets have been anywhere from bad to hot garbage on top of that.
I’m pretty sure verbeek wasn’t expecting the no show of many of our top end players.
 

ZegrassyKnoll

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Does that mean then you can’t call any young player injury-prone? I love McT but this is the 2nd straight season he’ll be missing several games
"Any young player" is way too wide of a criteria for me to really answer this.

For example - 24 would still be a young player IMO and missing significant time every season until 24 would be injury-prone.

But Mason is only 21. Missing some games for a couple of seasons doesn't really mean that much to me, especially when we have no idea what his injuries were/are.
 

ZegrassyKnoll

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Even after the ugliness we've seen so far, I really do think we have the ingredients to be a decent team.

I have grown very skeptical that it will happen under Cronin but I don't think this is really a lost season as some have suggested.
 

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