Speculation: 2024-25 Roster thread
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The Midnight Burrito
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I understand the reasoning but this is perhaps the absolute least interesting way this could have turned out. I have zero investment in those two guys.
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Harkins is here because he busted his ass every shift in preseason.
Helleson is here because he has no idea to play defense the way Cronin wants, and that should be an improvement.
Helleson is here because he has no idea to play defense the way Cronin wants, and that should be an improvement.
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He’s also the Gulls leading scorer by a significant margin so if you’re rewarding guys with call ups based on performance he’s definitely the most deserving
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I have finally published the first piece on my faceoff tracking project: The Faceoff Project
Because it's meant to be an introduction to everything I'm tracking, it's quite a long, dry piece, so I will summarize some of the interesting stats I found here:
-As @anezthes suggested in another thread, McTavish has been getting thrown out of faceoffs too much. There have been 67 instances of Ducks getting thrown out of the dot, and McTavish is responsible for 30 of them (he gets thrown out of the circle ~15% of the time). It might not impact McTavish's own faceoff percentage, but it brings down the team percentage because a winger is forced to take the draw in his place.
-The Ducks only win 36.78% of draws on the right side of the ice (they win 48.34% on the left side). This is mainly due to the fact that they only have one right-shot center (Strome) on the team. And this problem is exacerbated because, believe it or not, Strome is significantly worse at winning draws on what is supposed to be his strong side (the right side). He wins 36.80% of draws on the right side, and he inexplicably wins 52.1% of draws on the left side. Essentially, nobody on the team is stronger on the right side.
-Teams are supposed to have the faceoff advantage after icings, but the Ducks don't. On faceoffs immediately after opponent icings, the Ducks only win 32.76% of draws (opponents win 59% of draws when Anaheim ices the puck).
-Teams should also have an advantage when opposing centers are kicked out of the faceoff circle, yet the Ducks only win 42.86% of these draws (opponents win 65% of draws when the Ducks center is kicked out of the circle).
If anyone has any further questions on the data or assumptions they want me to look into, please let me know! I have all of the data at my fingertips ready to be used.
Because it's meant to be an introduction to everything I'm tracking, it's quite a long, dry piece, so I will summarize some of the interesting stats I found here:
-As @anezthes suggested in another thread, McTavish has been getting thrown out of faceoffs too much. There have been 67 instances of Ducks getting thrown out of the dot, and McTavish is responsible for 30 of them (he gets thrown out of the circle ~15% of the time). It might not impact McTavish's own faceoff percentage, but it brings down the team percentage because a winger is forced to take the draw in his place.
-The Ducks only win 36.78% of draws on the right side of the ice (they win 48.34% on the left side). This is mainly due to the fact that they only have one right-shot center (Strome) on the team. And this problem is exacerbated because, believe it or not, Strome is significantly worse at winning draws on what is supposed to be his strong side (the right side). He wins 36.80% of draws on the right side, and he inexplicably wins 52.1% of draws on the left side. Essentially, nobody on the team is stronger on the right side.
-Teams are supposed to have the faceoff advantage after icings, but the Ducks don't. On faceoffs immediately after opponent icings, the Ducks only win 32.76% of draws (opponents win 59% of draws when Anaheim ices the puck).
-Teams should also have an advantage when opposing centers are kicked out of the faceoff circle, yet the Ducks only win 42.86% of these draws (opponents win 65% of draws when the Ducks center is kicked out of the circle).
If anyone has any further questions on the data or assumptions they want me to look into, please let me know! I have all of the data at my fingertips ready to be used.
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These are fantastic insights! Thanks a lot
The two bolded are something i've noticed just by watching, so it's very interesting to see them bear out in the data. Beyond frustrating and i think it's important to fix. Hopefully the analytics staff is aware of that.
Per moneypuck, we are already DFL in face-offs at 40.95%. That's incredible that we're actually doing worse than our gross average of 41% on face-offs after opponent icings lol
All Mighty
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The icing one is extra strange because the team is actually good at winning the first draw on powerplays, which is a very similar situation. To be fair, McTavish almost exclusively takes those draws, so the sample is different, but still.
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MMC
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Gotta see if Helleson can be a player or not, last year under contract for him with multiple D coming through the system, likely a non-tender if he doesn’t convince the team he can play at this level
The Midnight Burrito
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Man I feel for Dry too. His body just can't hack it at the NHL level sadly.
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McKeown has been solid in San Diego, but he would get victimised at the NHL level with his skating. Moot point as he's on an AHL contract anyway.
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Haven’t been around as I’ve found the games to be less depressing to watch when I’m not here, but I have to get this out.
Killorn this season might be my least favorite Ducks player I’ve ever watched. He is worse than cooked, he is charred. The fact that, while constantly blending every other line, Cronin has kept our worst forward by far stapled to our most important forward in Leo is mind numbingly frustrating.
Killorn this season might be my least favorite Ducks player I’ve ever watched. He is worse than cooked, he is charred. The fact that, while constantly blending every other line, Cronin has kept our worst forward by far stapled to our most important forward in Leo is mind numbingly frustrating.
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Why was Zegras and Cutter separated? I thought they were getting chances and looked good together.
Zegras-Terry looks good and Vatrano sucks. Why not go C-Z-T?
Zegras-Terry looks good and Vatrano sucks. Why not go C-Z-T?
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Probably one of the several hundred of reasons that we can't build any consistent offensive pressure. The Cronin line blender that changes seemingly nightly.
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ZegrassyKnoll
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Oh good, I was worried we would try something other than sucking ass
At least swap Gauthier and Killorn. Or McGinn and Killorn. Or even better might be Colangelo and Killorn 
