Speculation: 2024-25 Roster thread

[Reveille1984]

Top of the shitpile, boys!

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

It’s the offseason. People are looking for something to talk about that isn’t “we fell flat on our face in free agency after big plans were promised, then sorta promised, then didn’t happen”.

It’ll be something else next week.

If you want, I can start a thread asking…Is Jim Morrison really buried in Paris or is he alive in rural Oregon? Just give me the word and I’ll get on it.

 

[duckpuck]

Vatrano as well.

I don't think Strome or Vatrano get the C. Strome maybe an A. Both those guys are not guaranteed to be key contributors for Anaheim going forward.

They're waiting for one of the young guys to earn it. McTavish might still be the guy.

 

[Bender66]

Did all the Beeker haters scrutinize every word out of barstools mouth the same way? If we're going to put every word out of Verbeek under microscope like this, i'd think people would still be elbows deep sorting through the heaping pile of shit that barstool spewed ever year

 

[91Fedorov]

Did all the Beeker haters scrutinize every word out of barstools mouth the same way? If we're going to put every word out of Verbeek under microscope like this, i'd think people would still be elbows deep sorting through the heaping pile of shit that barstool spewed ever year

I don't recall them doing it. But I think the difference is Bob put together some winning seasons, Beeker hasn't yet. I think it's fear and frustration that he might not be able to do it, and that he could be an ineffective GM.

Also, the Beeks hasn't really given us much else to talk about yet. A drunken outburst would be a welcome change of pace at this point.

 

[snowave]

Good heavens, what's the hangup some people have about naming a Captain now? So he can preside over the dog days of summer? Frankly, the optics of naming someone know would look like an afterthought to a season most want to forget. Name the Captain around Labor Day - the first step of a new season and a new commitment to winning. I said it on the Captain's thread, but I'll say it here: have Killorn wear the C for the remaining 3 years of his deal, and let the kids earn their A's on the way to being a successor.

Killorn is NOT a guy that should wear a C on this team. Most of last season he looked like he couldn't give a shit about anything, including defending his teammates.

 

[DavidBL]

Killorn is NOT a guy that should wear a C on this team. Most of last season he looked like he couldn't give a shit about anything, including defending his teammates.

I did not get that sense at all.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

Did all the Beeker haters scrutinize every word out of barstools mouth the same way? If we're going to put every word out of Verbeek under microscope like this, i'd think people would still be elbows deep sorting through the heaping pile of shit that barstool spewed ever year

Yes - and those arguments stem from the same repeated arguments that he should have blown up the team before and kept everyone too long. He did have us entertained! (And I soured on BM like most of us did towards the end)

Bob kept us competitive until he clearly lacked the insight on how long to stay competitive. With Verbeek, its a question of: does he know how to construct a competitive roster, and does he have the coaching staff to deploy the right tactics for our players to flourish.

I’m sorry, but there had to be better coaching choices out there than Cronin. The guy is clueless and his postgame pressers make it seem like he doesn’t have the answers either.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Did all the Beeker haters scrutinize every word out of barstools mouth the same way? If we're going to put every word out of Verbeek under microscope like this, i'd think people would still be elbows deep sorting through the heaping pile of shit that barstool spewed ever year

Verbeek had plenty of slack the first year and a half. He’s earned being questioned with his pretty consistent mismatch of words and deeds.

As far as GMBM, I remember plenty of flack over RC being the best possible rehire, with all the players wanting him back as the best choice.

 

[12ozPapa]

I don’t view the Ducks as a real franchise nowadays. The window closed and I think the Samuelis are happy investing in the Vibe thing and such. We have a no name coach, a weird GM, and our veteran players signed here to coast and retire or falsely build their value

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

I don’t view the Ducks as a real franchise nowadays. The window closed and I think the Samuelis are happy investing in the Vibe thing and such. We have a no name coach, a weird GM, and our veteran players signed here to coast and retire or falsely build their value

What you said.. you need to voice out to the Administration about this.. IF your a season ticket holder.. We need a signed letter from all the season seat holders.. Because unfortunately this sounds like a true statement

 

[MMC]

I don’t view the Ducks as a real franchise nowadays. The window closed and I think the Samuelis are happy investing in the Vibe thing and such. We have a no name coach, a weird GM, and our veteran players signed here to coast and retire or falsely build their value

Lol... the Samuelis have operated exactly the same now as they have when they first owned the franchise

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

Killorn is NOT a guy that should wear a C on this team. Most of last season he looked like he couldn't give a shit about anything, including defending his teammates.

I did not get that sense at all.

Not only did I also not get that sense at all, he was playing injured for the first half of the season and had more jump to his step after coming back from the surgery.

 

[Lord Flashheart]

I don’t view the Ducks as a real franchise nowadays. The window closed and I think the Samuelis are happy investing in the Vibe thing and such. We have a no name coach, a weird GM, and our veteran players signed here to coast and retire or falsely build their value

Not a real franchise? What is a real franchise?

Rebuilds are a miserable experience most of the time.

 

[goonsaredumb]

our veteran players signed here to coast and retire or falsely build their value

So never sign any veteran players then?

If they play good you'll say they're falsely building value and that's bad

If they play bad you'll say they signed here to coast and retire and that's bad

What's the third option supposed to be?

 

[Ducks DVM]

I don’t view the Ducks as a real franchise nowadays. The window closed and I think the Samuelis are happy investing in the Vibe thing and such. We have a no name coach, a weird GM, and our veteran players signed here to coast and retire or falsely build their value

Gudas - does not coast
Vatrano - does not coast
Strome - does not coast, just is a 3rd line player with 3rd line warts
Killorn - played injured for half the season, then was absolutely not coasting after the knee surgery

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Verbeek had plenty of slack the first year and a half. He’s earned being questioned with his pretty consistent mismatch of words and deeds.

As far as GMBM, I remember plenty of flack over RC being the best possible rehire, with all the players wanting him back as the best choice.

A major knock on BM was him saying all the right things and then not following up on them, too.

I don’t view the Ducks as a real franchise nowadays. The window closed and I think the Samuelis are happy investing in the Vibe thing and such. We have a no name coach, a weird GM, and our veteran players signed here to coast and retire or falsely build their value

They’re a real franchise and screw anyone who thinks otherwise, GM, fans, analysts, all of them.

 

[Deuce22]

I don’t view the Ducks as a real franchise nowadays. The window closed and I think the Samuelis are happy investing in the Vibe thing and such. We have a no name coach, a weird GM, and our veteran players signed here to coast and retire or falsely build their value

Is a front runner a real fan?

 

[12ozPapa]

I see I’ve touched a nerve. To me, it’s hard to take this team seriously. No roadmap, we’ve been rebuilding/retooling for how long with none to minimal improvement. Let’s hope and f***ing pray the young kids become starts ASAP

 

[MMC]

I see I’ve touched a nerve. To me, it’s hard to take this team seriously. No roadmap, we’ve been rebuilding/retooling for how long with none to minimal improvement. Let’s hope and f***ing pray the young kids become starts ASAP

While obviously the years of missed playoffs under Murray will remain in the minds of fans, it shouldn’t how factor into how you feel about the current regime. PV sold ownership on a plan (one that, according to many insiders, preaches patience), and has currently had only 2 full seasons overseeing this team. One was a year where the intention was to bottom out to secure a top center in a draft with a very highly regarded top 3, one was a year with expected improvement that was hindered by multiple simultaneous injuries to key players.

All this is to say, it’s way too early to make the implication that the current regime isn’t building the team up for sustainable success. They have a lot to prove before we start singing their praises, but you’re definitely going too far in the other direction

 

[Ducks DVM]

I see I’ve touched a nerve. To me, it’s hard to take this team seriously. No roadmap, we’ve been rebuilding/retooling for how long with none to minimal improvement. Let’s hope and f***ing pray the young kids become starts ASAP

Honest question - how long do you think a tear it down tank rebuild actually takes to yield results?

 

[Duckesh]

I see I’ve touched a nerve. To me, it’s hard to take this team seriously. No roadmap, we’ve been rebuilding/retooling for how long with none to minimal improvement. Let’s hope and f***ing pray the young kids become starts ASAP

As someone who watched this team from the first game of the first season... there have been many long stretches of absolutely nothing to cheer for. Like not even some amazing youngsters on the horizon. Bad drafting. Terribly uncompetitive seasons.

Pretty much '93 - '02 nothing happened

 

[12ozPapa]

While obviously the years of missed playoffs under Murray will remain in the minds of fans, it shouldn’t how factor into how you feel about the current regime. PV sold ownership on a plan (one that, according to many insiders, preaches patience), and has currently had only 2 full seasons overseeing this team. One was a year where the intention was to bottom out to secure a top center in a draft with a very highly regarded top 3, one was a year with expected improvement that was hindered by multiple simultaneous injuries to key players.

All this is to say, it’s way too early to make the implication that the current regime isn’t building the team up for sustainable success. They have a lot to prove before we start singing their praises, but you’re definitely going too far in the other direction

I respect you as a poster hugely MMC. All I’m saying is we went from retool/rebuild with no improvements to more of the same. For me personally, I have minimal excitement for this tram currently.

Honest question - how long do you think a tear it down tank rebuild actually takes to yield results?

I get your point, and agree. My issue is this: is there a clear plan? This seems like BM is around still. Just meandering around hoping things stick and the young guns amazingly improve. My opinion is that I am not too hopeful with this regime. That’s my opinion.

As someone who watched this team from the first game of the first season... there have been many long stretches of absolutely nothing to cheer for. Like not even some amazing youngsters on the horizon. Bad drafting. Terribly uncompetitive seasons.

Pretty much '93 - '02 nothing happened

Watched this time since ‘01 so not as long as you. Disney played a huge hand in this team’s struggles.


Lastly, it’s rather typical of this forum for one person to express their opinion to have their fandom questioned and such - but alas, such is life.

 

[Lord Flashheart]

Lastly, it’s rather typical of this forum for one person to express their opinion to have their fandom questioned and such - but alas, such is life.

Can't see anyone questioning your fandom, but you can't expect to post in a discussion board and then complain being discussed with, let alone expect something as severe as "this is not a real franchise nowadays" to remain unchallenged.

 

[Static]

I respect you as a poster hugely MMC. All I’m saying is we went from retool/rebuild with no improvements to more of the same. For me personally, I have minimal excitement for this tram currently.

I get your point, and agree. My issue is this: is there a clear plan? This seems like BM is around still. Just meandering around hoping things stick and the young guns amazingly improve. My opinion is that I am not too hopeful with this regime. That’s my opinion.

Watched this time since ‘01 so not as long as you. Disney played a huge hand in this team’s struggles.


Lastly, it’s rather typical of this forum for one person to express their opinion to have their fandom questioned and such - but alas, such is life.

You're absolutely free to express your opinion and everyone is also absolutely free to criticize it. What sort of reaction to that were you expecting?