2024-25 Roster Thread #2: Midseasonnar

[Flyerfan4life]

They are an injury to TK, Sanheim or Ersson away from having a legit shot at dropping behind every team save San Jose or Chicago.

#spoiler.. Chicagos gunna get 1st OA again..

 

[Beef Invictus]

Probably an improvement for him even it’s still not good.

He often out skates his own puckhandling

 

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

Should be fun.

I have four spots this year if anyone wants to go.

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Will be interesting if this team continues to slide before then if they make a major move to try to generate excitement going into this. If not they’re walking into a hornets nest after raising prices.

 

[LegionOfGloom]

Will be interesting if this team continues to slide before then if they make a major move to try to generate excitement going into this. If not they’re walking into a hornets nest after raising prices.

Are they though? I feel like this is the only place where I feel like I'm sane. Go on reddit. Twitter, the Athletic and it is nothing but stepfords who think Briere is crushing it.

 

[Rebels57]

Are they though? I feel like this is the only place where I feel like I'm sane. Go on reddit. Twitter, the Athletic and it is nothing but stepfords who think Briere is crushing it.

The only other place I occassionaly visit is Reddit and yeah, they are awfully optimistic about what's happening here.

 

[FlyerNutter]

One more season where they miss the playoffs, and even the diehards that believe will start to question things.

Briere has left himself a runway that’s getting exceedingly shorter - without having brought in anything meaningful other than Michkov.

If they miss again next year, Briere is in hot water.

The odds of real change are low, but I’ll always hope I guess.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

I'm looking forward to Ian Laperriere's inexplicable yet inevitable descent up the company ladder as he becomes the team's next GM after Briere.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

I'm looking forward to Ian Laperriere's inexplicable yet inevitable descent up the company ladder as he becomes the team's next GM after Briere.

With Rocky remaining as the PP coach

 

[LegionOfGloom]

One more season where they miss the playoffs, and even the diehards that believe will start to question things.

Briere has left himself a runway that’s getting exceedingly shorter - without having brought in anything meaningful other than Michkov.

If they miss again next year, Briere is in hot water.

The odds of real change are low, but I’ll always hope I guess.

This is what we're dealing with though. Taken from a comment to The Athletic's article where Kurz "analyzed" all of Briere's trade to date:

"I think Danny and Jonesy stick around for a while. I don’t see a single trade here that is negative- the only one that might be questioned is trading the pick and not getting Buium, but Luchanko looked better than I expected with the big club and must be playing well in the O because he was just named captain in Guelph, he just needs time to develop.

Danny and Jonesy getting draft capital and grabbing young guys in the draft is a good plan for a rebuilding team.

Frost and Farabee had gone stale and needed a fresh start. Both young, but I think they reached their peak production here in PHI, and it wasn’t much. Kuzmenko and Pelletier are also both young and while they haven’t exactly been superstars, maybe they got stale in Calgary too. Kuzmenko had a great rookie year and seems to do alright after being traded. Both are also FA (Kuz is UFA and Pelle RFA) after the season, so if they don’t preform we could offload them. It’s looking good for the Flyguys"

So this guy thinks the Luchanko pick was fine in retrospect because he's wearing the C in the OHL.

Then he thinks the Frost/Farabee trade is good because: (1) Kuzmenko and Pelletier are "young" (they're not but whatever); (2) Kuzmenko has in the past performed well briefly after being traded (totally irrelevant); and (3) if they stink they're gone. Briere can never fail where every trade is good provided the players you got back are good or gone if not.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Comment sections are a reflection of who is reading the writer. People who care to look at things critically aren’t reading Kurz. That’s the home of platitudes and boogeymen.

 

[LegionOfGloom]

Comment sections are a reflection of who is reading the writer. People who care to look at things critically aren’t reading Kurz. That’s the home of platitudes and boogeymen.

Fair enough but what writers out there are writing about this honestly? Flyers have a propaganda team that would make Himmler blush with envy.

 

[scumpup]

most of the fanbase seems to be intellectually disabled. Shame, everyone smart doesnt care anymore.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Fair enough but what writers out there are writing about this honestly? Flyers have a propaganda team that would make Himmler blush with envy.

Because it’s a weird, cultish fanbase.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Comment sections are a reflection of who is reading the writer. People who care to look at things critically aren’t reading Kurz. That’s the home of platitudes and boogeymen.

Does the Inquire/Daily News even assign people to regularly cover the Flyers anymore?

I know Sam got replaced by two girls but I think the one got let go completely & the other one moved to Eagles coverage for them not too long after that.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Does the Inquire/Daily News even assign people to regularly cover the Flyers anymore?

I know Sam got replaced by two girls but I think the one got let go completely & the other one moved to Eagles coverage for them not too long after that.

The website lists someone named Jackie Spiegel as a Flyers Reporter, but I don't read it anymore so I don't know if that's a full time gig or not.

(And also the woman who was moved to the Eagles.)

 

[FLYguy3911]

Doesn’t Marcus Hayes do spot duty for the Flyers or am I making that up?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

The website lists someone named Jackie Spiegel as a Flyers Reporter, but I don't read it anymore so I don't know if that's a full time gig or not.

(And also the woman who was moved to the Eagles.)

Yeah I don’t even know who their media really is anymore outside of Charlie, Kurz, ASF, & Meltzer.

It probably makes sense though. It’s a niche product to begin with then add in you’re on a decade run of being stuck in purgatory. It’s probably not worth the time & resources to invest a lot into for media companies.

Even people that follow the team most probably don’t give a shit about game recap type of content which makes up a decent bit of daily content for sports.

 

[FlyerNutter]

This is what we're dealing with though. Taken from a comment to The Athletic's article where Kurz "analyzed" all of Briere's trade to date:

"I think Danny and Jonesy stick around for a while. I don’t see a single trade here that is negative- the only one that might be questioned is trading the pick and not getting Buium, but Luchanko looked better than I expected with the big club and must be playing well in the O because he was just named captain in Guelph, he just needs time to develop.

Danny and Jonesy getting draft capital and grabbing young guys in the draft is a good plan for a rebuilding team.

Frost and Farabee had gone stale and needed a fresh start. Both young, but I think they reached their peak production here in PHI, and it wasn’t much. Kuzmenko and Pelletier are also both young and while they haven’t exactly been superstars, maybe they got stale in Calgary too. Kuzmenko had a great rookie year and seems to do alright after being traded. Both are also FA (Kuz is UFA and Pelle RFA) after the season, so if they don’t preform we could offload them. It’s looking good for the Flyguys"

So this guy thinks the Luchanko pick was fine in retrospect because he's wearing the C in the OHL.

Then he thinks the Frost/Farabee trade is good because: (1) Kuzmenko and Pelletier are "young" (they're not but whatever); (2) Kuzmenko has in the past performed well briefly after being traded (totally irrelevant); and (3) if they stink they're gone. Briere can never fail where every trade is good provided the players you got back are good or gone if not.

Kuzmenko is almost 30 I believe. Low NHL miles for sure, would have interest if he can play but the skating is something I’d have a lot of hesitation with - if he wanted more than a one year “try me” deal, beyond this season.

Briere’s moves haven’t been horrific, or crippling if we look at it that way.

The fact remains - he has been GM almost 2 calendar years. He’s accomplished nothing since that time, other than Michkov. Using the word rebuild bought him time, but not when you only find a way to bring in one potentially high end player.

If Briere misses the playoffs next season as well, and continues to show so little for that “sacrifice” - the water starts to boil.

I’d bet my nuts on that, especially with a large segment of this fanbase. They have been incredibly complacent since Danny took over - and it’s going to cost Briere his job imo.

Even if he signs say a Bennet, and Chychrun in FA - or a couple guys on that tier, this team is so bereft of talent… I can’t see them making the dance.

There are elements of this fanbase - its impatience, which will actually help us very soon. Especially going in a decade + of crap.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Are they though? I feel like this is the only place where I feel like I'm sane. Go on reddit. Twitter, the Athletic and it is nothing but stepfords who think Briere is crushing it.

i swear its why this Org. will never change

they simply never have to..

the mouthbreathers are always " well theres always next year"..