Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

[Discoverer]

Yeah if they start the season with Santander not at cleanup, that's just utter stupidity.

That's a very old-school way of looking at it. Given the players on the roster, Santander makes sense in either the 3 or 4 spot.

 

[tmlfan98]

Yeah if they start the season with Santander not at cleanup, that's just utter stupidity.

Between the options Schneider said, Bo at cleanup makes more sense than Bo at leadoff if they are insistent on Vlad and Santander at 2-3 for whatever reason. I agree Santander should be cleanup, and I also think leadoff should be a platoon with Will Wagner as the strong side bat.

But for some reason, Bo at leadoff has been getting way more test reps in spring. I think either Varsho or Springer will bat cleanup if Bo is leadoff (puke). Varsho has only batted 2nd in his spring games so far, but we now know they are starting the season with Vlad and Santander at 2-3, so Varsho is going to hit somewhere else.

 

[tmlfan98]

That's a very old-school way of looking at it. Given the players on the roster, Santander makes sense in either the 3 or 4 spot.

I think I agree with MK here (and so does The Book).

https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/3/17/795946/optimizing-your-lineup-by

https://www.theinternethittingcoach.com/batting-order.html#:~:text=What%20you%20may%20want%20to,the%20statisticians%20say%20actually%20works.&text=%22Your%20three%20best%20hitters%20should,%234%20and%20%235%20slots.

What you may want to do is follow what the statisticians say actually works. "Your three best hitters should bat somewhere in the #1, #2 and #4 slots. Your fourth- and fifth-best hitters should occupy the #3 and #5 slots. The #1 and #2 slots will have players with more walks than those in the #4 and #5 slots.

 

[Discoverer]

I think I agree with MK here (and so does The Book).

https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/3/17/795946/optimizing-your-lineup-by

https://www.theinternethittingcoach.com/batting-order.html#:~:text=What%20you%20may%20want%20to,the%20statisticians%20say%20actually%20works.&text=%22Your%20three%20best%20hitters%20should,%234%20and%20%235%20slots.

Yeah, the reason I say he fits at 3 or 4 is because it depends what they do at the leadoff spot. If they want to follow the book, it should likely be Bo, Vlad, someone, Santander. But if they want Wagner or Roden at leadoff (which I think would be reasonable), you have Vlad at 2 and then Santander and Bo are close enough that they can plug in at 3/4 almost interchangeably. There are enough factors that I don't think it's as simple as "Schneider's an idiot if Santander isn't at cleanup".

 

[aingefan]

Barger keeps taking, Jake Bloss with a tidy 3 spot with 5k’s.
Also, kinda fun how many games the late inning guys have rakediuuu
Radio broadcast yesterday reported that his fastball has upticked almost 2mph from last year.