Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

[Ale Brew]

Teo back to the Dodgers per Passan.

3 years $66M with deferrals (of course).

That’s leaves Santander, Alonso, and Bregman as legit bats available.

 

[cyris]

Teo back to the dodgers. 3 years,66mil. Almost half is defferred and a lot is a signing bonus

Okay this one actually hurts

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Atkins getting blue-balled all offseason.

 

[Discoverer]

Okay this one actually hurts

Yeah, this feels like a miss. That's a fine contract for Teo.

 

[GoonieFace]

No big free agents are signing with the Jays with the Vladdy situation up in the air. This has turned into a huge turd pile.

 

[canucksfan]

The deferrals are a pain in the ass. If the Dodgers sign Sasaki they probably have a better team than last year and they won the WS.

EDIT: Even if they don't they do. This upcoming season I likely won't be watching much baseball.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Basically down to if we don't sign Santander our off season is completely cooked. Not a great feeling lol

 

[Amadeus]

So what exactly do you do, Ross Atkins?

 

[Ale Brew]

Basically down to if we don't sign Santander our off season is completely cooked. Not a great feeling lol

Sort of agree, although Alonso or Bregman (seems unlikely) could have a similar impact.

We absolutely need one of those 3, and perhaps even a trade for another bat.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

So what exactly do you do, Ross Atkins?

Gotta be something Shapiro can't do without.

 

[cyris]

Yeah, this feels like a miss. That's a fine contract for Teo.

Most of the FA signings up to this point have been guys I didn’t want or guys that were never going to sign here but this was an affordable contract to a guy that really would have helped and would have come here.

It’s a miss and a big one.

 

[mikeyz]

Teo back to the Dodgers per Passan.

3 years $66M with deferrals (of course).

That’s leaves Santander, Alonso, and Bregman as legit bats available.

They're not getting any of those remaining guys. I will 100% guarantee you.

 

[cyris]

They're not getting any of those remaining guys. I will 100% guarantee you.

Alonso and Bregman could simply be cases of just offering more money and term than anyone else.
But both those guys have a lot of questions about how bad those contracts could look as they age.

 

[trellaine201]

I wonder if Rogers has reversed course. And telling Shaps and Atkins to cut salary and an semi rebuild. Vlady and Bo out?

 

[cyris]

I wonder if Rogers has reversed course. And telling Shaps and Atkins to cut salary and a semi rebuild. Vlady and Bo out?

Paraphrasing but never attribute to malice what can just as easily be explained by incompetence.

 

[Woodman19]

What do you do when players only interest in you is to leverage it for a bigger contract to play for anybody but you? lol

 

[GoonieFace]

What do you do when players only interest in you is to leverage it for a bigger contract to play for anybody but you? lol

I don’t know but ask any team that is interested in someone and doesn’t sign them. This isn’t exclusive to Toronto

 

[arthurcason]

Teo back to the Dodgers per Passan.

3 years $66M with deferrals (of course).

That’s leaves Santander, Alonso, and Bregman as legit bats available.

Not that surprised, but the Dodgers and their deferrals are getting out of hand and really annoying, at some point MLB had to step in and put a stop of this nonsense, you can't have teams just continuing to defer large salary payments.

 

[cyris]

Not that surprised, but the Dodgers and their deferrals are getting out of hand and really annoying, at some point MLB had to step in and put a stop of this nonsense, you can't have teams just continuing to defer large salary payments.

It’s one of those things like NHL teams playing in no tax states. It won’t be fixed cause the league doesn’t want it fixed.
The MLB loves that their big market teams can out spend the other teams and are more likely to have success.
Just like Betman loves that their small market NHL teams in non traditional markets have an advantage created by the tax system.

 

[canucksfan]

What do you do when players only interest in you is to leverage it for a bigger contract to play for anybody but you? lol

I've said this before but the big problem with this offseason is the uncertainty of the Jays future. They could be rebuilding next offseason. In previous offseasons, they did pretty well signing players.

 

[dredeye]

I am almost willing to wager Vlad joins teo in LA next year

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[dredeye]

I've said this before but the big problem with this offseason is the uncertainty of the Jays future. They could be rebuilding next offseason. In previous offseasons, they did pretty well signing players.

Bo and Vlad not being locked up is 100% why no one is signing here. Losing Gausman, Bassett, Bo and Vlad in one off season and Berrios a year away from an opt out. Toronto is as unappealing a destination as one can imagine. We’ll sign a few guys to one year deals and that’ll be it

Can we talk about how much money all this deferred money has cost the MLB. The dodgers are costing the league what 70 to 100 million in luxury taxes doing this? They have to step in. This is an embarrassment to the league at this point. Why other owners aren’t freaking out about it is beyond me

 

[cyris]

Bo and Vlad not being locked up is 100% why no one is signing here. Losing Gausman, Bassett, Bo and Vlad in one off season and Berrios a year away from an opt out. Toronto is as unappealing a destination as one can imagine. We’ll sign a few guys to one year deals and that’ll be it

Can we talk about how much money all this deferred money has cost the MLB. The dodgers are costing the league what 70 to 100 million in luxury taxes doing this? They have to step in. This is an embarrassment to the league at this point. Why other owners aren’t freaking out about it is beyond me

It’s baffling to me that Shatkins have fumbled the great situation they mostly inherited this badly and are still here to be the ones to try to fix it.
Oh and the home grown Canadian GM we pushed out the door to get this group has won a World Series since he left.

 

[canucksfan]

It’s baffling to me that Shatkins have fumbled the great situation they mostly inherited this badly and are still here to be the ones to try to fix it.
Oh and the home grown Canadian GM we pushed out the door to get this group has won a World Series since he left.

They didn't really inherit a great situation. The farm system stunk and it was an aging core.