Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

[Kurtz]

Does anyone agree that the Blue Jays won the trade of Kikuchi with the Astros? The Blue Jays got Joey Loperfido among others and Houston lost Kikuchi to the Dodgers on free agency.

Kikuchi went to the Angels, but otherwise, yeah. We really should trade with Houston as much as possible.

 

[Discoverer]

Kikuchi went to the Angels, but otherwise, yeah. We really should trade with Houston as much as possible.

Futures trades with Houston, win-now deals with Oakland.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Futures trades with Houston, win-now deals with Oakland.

Me when the Jays get yet another A's all-star for the price of a half eaten ham sandwich and a half empty bottle of Coke;

 

[Canada4Gold]

We get our 3rd baseman from the A's, and our outfielders from the Astros

 

[phillipmike]

Futures trades with Houston, win-now deals with Oakland.

Could go as far as infielders from Oakland with Hinske, Semien and Scutaro Joining Donaldson and Chapman.

Reclamation projects from NL Central;
-Bautista
-Encarnacion
-Estrada
-JA Happ
-Colby Rasmus

 

[Dr.Funk]

 

[Suntouchable13]

Could go as far as infielders from Oakland with Hinske, Semien and Scutaro Joining Donaldson and Chapman.

Reclamation projects from NL Central;
-Bautista
-Encarnacion
-Estrada
-JA Happ
-Colby Rasmus

4 out of 5 became all-stars, not bad.

 

[phillipmike]

4 out of 5 became all-stars, not bad.

And Rasmus got robbed in 2013 in my opinion. Rasmus had a higher WAR and OPS+ than Adam Jones, Nelson Cruz, Tori Hunter, and Alex Gordon who made the team over him.

Rasmus led the Jays in WAR in 2013 and had a higher slugging than Bautista.

 

[Tony Romo]

I get the jays are the only Canadian team in baseball. But it blows my mind on how bad the reporting is. You really think the Jays will sign Soto and then turn around and let Vladdy walk?

I've seen articles where they think we pay our players in Canadian dollars as well.

 

[Ale Brew]

Boyd gets 2 yrs $29M from the Cubs. Arguably depth starters are getting PAID in this market. Might as well try to land one of the big fish as it’s much better value.

 

[phillipmike]

Boyd gets 2 yrs $29M from the Cubs. Arguably depth starters are getting PAID in this market. Might as well try to land one of the big fish as it’s much better value.

Agreed. That is a lot of money for guy who is 34 and pitched 200 innings combine in the last 4 seasons.

His WAR the last 5 seasons;
-0.6
1.4
0.4
-0.1
0.7

Montas getting $34M over 2 years but at least he is a lot younger and has potential. I wonder what guys like Bieber, Verlander and Max get.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Discoverer]

Agreed. That is a lot of money for guy who is 34 and pitched 200 innings combine in the last 4 seasons.

His WAR the last 5 seasons;
-0.6
1.4
0.4
-0.1
0.7

Montas getting $34M over 2 years but at least he is a lot younger and has potential. I wonder what guys like Bieber, Verlander and Max get.

I feel like we see a deal or two like this every offseason where a team buys into an excellent <50 inning sample and hopes it turns into cheap upside.

 

[phillipmike]

An underwhelming but accurate update about Mets, Yankees target Juan Soto

If you, as a fan of the Mets, Yankees, Red Sox or Blue Jays and are frustrated by not knowing where Juan Soto will sign, take comfort in the fact that the teams involved are similarly in the dark.

sny.tv

[Martino] There is a widespread belief among bidders that Toronto will come in with the highest offer [for Soto]. There is also widespread skepticism that Soto would go to Toronto, but a source pushed back on that, saying that if a team is involved in the final bidding, Soto is willing to play there​

 

[TheTotalPackage]

An underwhelming but accurate update about Mets, Yankees target Juan Soto

If you, as a fan of the Mets, Yankees, Red Sox or Blue Jays and are frustrated by not knowing where Juan Soto will sign, take comfort in the fact that the teams involved are similarly in the dark.

sny.tv

After getting sucked into the Ohtani hoopla last year, I think practically every Jays fan is approaching it as a "have to see it to believe it".

 

[tmlfan98]

An underwhelming but accurate update about Mets, Yankees target Juan Soto

If you, as a fan of the Mets, Yankees, Red Sox or Blue Jays and are frustrated by not knowing where Juan Soto will sign, take comfort in the fact that the teams involved are similarly in the dark.

sny.tv

The way I interpret this is not that this means the Jays could have a chance here, but that the Jays could easily come in with the highest offer for Soto (before Soto's true preferred destination is given a chance to price match like Ohtani did with the Dodgers).

What I still find interesting about the Soto sweepstakes is, who between the Yankees and Red Sox are Soto's preferred destination?

 

[phillipmike]

After getting sucked into the Ohtani hoopla last year, I think practically every Jays fan is approaching it as a "have to see it to believe it".

 

[Tony Romo]

I'm curious to what demands Soto is making.

Like if he's telling the Jays, yeah i'm interested but you have to sign a player like Fried and sign Vladdy to an extension.

 

[phillipmike]

The way I interpret this is not that this means the Jays could have a chance here, but that the Jays could easily come in with the highest offer for Soto (before Soto's true preferred destination is given a chance to price match like Ohtani did with the Dodgers).

What I still find interesting about the Soto sweepstakes is, who between the Yankees and Red Sox are Soto's preferred destination?

Agreed. Someone will always beat the Jays offer or come close and if you are Soto the other legit suitors are better options. All of the Dodgers, Yankees, Mets and Red Sox are in bigger markets. The Dodgers are the best team. The Mets are in an easier division. The Red Sox have his friend and a great farm system with no real long term money committed. The Yankees just went to the WS with him.

Unless he loves Vladdy, Bo and Canada then why come here?

 

[Killer Orcas]

Wonder if Jays have touched base with Tanner Scott and or Jeff Hoffman would be nice to actually have two lights out guys to add to bullpen.

 

[habamillions]

Wonder if Jays have touched base with Tanner Scott and or Jeff Hoffman would be nice to actually have two lights out guys to add to bullpen.

They are "interested" im sure

 

[Killer Orcas]

They are "interested" im sure

Sadly they are always interested hopefully they actually get some guys this off season.

 

[Tony Romo]

I don't trust him, but Heyman did say Soto will most likely sign with the team that gives him the biggest offer!