Dr.Funk
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Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)
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Joc would be a nice lefty bat as a pure DH for 120 games. Orelvis Martinez could be a decent option in a DH platoon with Joc vs lefties, although he will need to work his way back up from the Bisons.
landy92mack29
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because it's a joke now when starters can't even qualify for a QS when managers are pulling them after 85 pitches. Not even 10 years ago it was rare for a starter to come out before the 7th unless they were lit up and very rarely were pitchers arms exploding at the rate they are now
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Another big time guy to a divisional rival... Bellinger is flawed but would have welcomed him in a Jays uniform.
This off season has 2 wheels off the rails at the moment. Long way before spring training but the fact everyone else around them seems to have a sense of urgency tells me they are likely striking out as they move from Plan A to B to C...
Not ready to join the trade Vlad party yet. He should still be priority 1, but without knowing whats going on behind close doors. Cant imagine many have confidence, especially with parting remarks from guys like Romano throwing fuel to the fire.
This off season has 2 wheels off the rails at the moment. Long way before spring training but the fact everyone else around them seems to have a sense of urgency tells me they are likely striking out as they move from Plan A to B to C...
Not ready to join the trade Vlad party yet. He should still be priority 1, but without knowing whats going on behind close doors. Cant imagine many have confidence, especially with parting remarks from guys like Romano throwing fuel to the fire.
Starry Knight
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Cody Bellinger is two years removed from being on the same level as George Springer was last season--and last season wasn't much better.
There is no reason to hand wring about missing out on Cody Bellinger.
There is no reason to hand wring about missing out on Cody Bellinger.
Losing Soto stings for Yanks, but in some ways, it's a blessing in disguise
If Juan Soto had taken the Yankees' $760 million offer, it's highly unlikely that owner Hal Steinbrenner would have been keen on laying out any more big-money contracts this winter — and the club has plenty of holes to fill.
www.newsday.com
Good thing he is a free agent at that time. Yankees needed bats and this helps them.
tmlfan98
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Oh no the Yankees traded for a guy most of us would have been pissed if he was traded here
Not a big fan of the Jays being that interested. Big fan of the Jays interest forcing the Yankees to take on most of Bellinger's salary.
Yeah, I’d prefer Santander or Teo, but Bellinger will hit in that park. Apparently had he played his home games at Yankee Stadium last year his HR’s would go from 18 to 24.
tmlfan98
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I agree with this. I was anti-Bellinger last offseason too because I didn't want the Jays to be the team that overpayed him.
I wouldn't have hated him at the contract he got in hopes that he could maintain his 2023 numbers, but then... he didn't. Definitely not interested now unless it's at a serious discount. Giving him almost $50 million over the next two years isn't something I'm interested in.
ChuckNorris4Cup
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Again though power isn't just always about hitting a HR, it's also about hitting the gaps in the outfield for doubles or triples, HR can happen and it may help the argument a bit, but that doesn't just make you a power hitter based of only HR. Like in general a good SLG is considered between .450-.500 and an exceptional power bat SLG is .550 or higher. Now they may not be in the exceptional category but going by their stats they fit into a good power category.
It's just seeing the power in Horwitz and his bat this season in a limited time with the Jays was promising to see, especially since the team has been lacking that the last few seasons, but to watch him get moved right away was frustrating to see. And the fact that he showed some decent power this year with very similar numbers in Triple A as Roden had is promising, but also alarming seeing how fast Atkins was willing to move Horwitz after.
saska sault
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Bellinger is over paid, no doubt. Has his warts but again hard to see 20hr, 80rbis not helping this team since only one guy accomplished that last year. The fact he makes the same as Springer is an issue for Rogers payroll. Would not be surpised to see him go for 25 and 90 in Yankee stadium... I get most dont want him, but its a divisonal rival improving again.
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Yeah you know what I'm sorry I came off a little harsh to you my bad, it's just my past experience here with some posters have put me into that state of mind when responding, because they always feel like they're the genius here who knows it all about everything, and your opinion has no merit to what you're saying. Looking at your name I don't believe we have interacted before, so again I'm sorry for coming off like that to yourself.
I don't follow the triple A players, I don't watch games, so I look at stats to get a better understanding of what to expect of a player, and his stats definitely stand out no denying that. Very similar to how I approached Wagner when we acquired him, I went straight to look at his stats down in the minors and his number really stood out to me, and why I was really in favor of calling him up I saw some very good potential there. Obviously not all players can succeed at the next level, it's not for all, but when you see those type of numbers you want to see if they can do it at that next level. I like what I see from Rodens numbers, so I would be very interested to see what he could do at that next level up here.
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tmlfan98
No More Excuses #MarnerOut
Yeah see that's the thing. I didn't think he was going to maintain his 2023 numbers (or even had hopes that he would), which is why I didn't want the Jays to be the team that overpaid him last offseason. When he signed with the Cubs and I saw the contract I liked that the Jays missed out.
The number of times the Jays are "interested" makes me wonder this front office is just completely incompetent. Don't allow the team to be used like this. Embarrassing.
If there were no good free agents left, I would agree. But right now I would much prefer Teo or Santander or Profar at their expected contracts over Bellinger for his deal.
The same thing happened on every single free agent when AA was in charge.
tmlfan98
No More Excuses #MarnerOut
Hopefully they're interested in him as a #5 option. Not as a runner up to getting Burnes.
Burnes
Berrios
Gausman
Bassitt
Pivetta
I'd be happy with that.
Is Pivetta better than Francis? If you land Burnes, the rotation should be set.
That would be nice, but I can’t imagine them adding $50M worth of starters to the roster this year. I would think it’s an either or, unless they have a plan to move Bassitt out.
Hard to say, certainly more proven, but not better than 2nd half Francis last year.
