Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

[Puckstuff]

I was crunching the numbers to figure out how much extra luxury tax the Mets would owe if they signed Alonso.

If the Jays were to front-load a deal at $30 million and the Mets matched it next season, the Mets would have to pay an additional $16.775 million in luxury tax on top of the $30 million in salary for Alonso. That means Alonso would effectively cost them just under $47 million total, factoring in the extra tax charge if they signed him for $30 million.

Keep in mind that the Mets already have Vientos as an option at first base, who profiles to have a similar WAR to Alonso. They also have Winker at DH. While Alonso is undoubtedly better than Winker, the difference might only be around 1 WAR. Considering this, the Mets would essentially be paying almost $47 million for just 1-1.25 WAR.

If the Jays were to add a $30 million dollar bat, the extra CBT charge would be $7.26 million. So, effectively, it would cost them $37 million, instead of $47 million.

 

[Woodman19]

I was crunching the numbers to figure out how much extra luxury tax the Mets would owe if they signed Alonso.

If the Jays were to front-load a deal at $30 million and the Mets matched it next season, the Mets would have to pay an additional $16.775 million in luxury tax on top of the $30 million in salary for Alonso. That means Alonso would effectively cost them just under $47 million total, factoring in the extra tax charge if they signed him for $30 million.

Keep in mind that the Mets already have Vientos as an option at first base, who profiles to have a similar WAR to Alonso. They also have Winker at DH. While Alonso is undoubtedly better than Winker, the difference might only be around 1 WAR. Considering this, the Mets would essentially be paying almost $47 million for just 1-1.25 WAR.

If the Jays were to add a $30 million dollar bat, the extra CBT charge would be $7.26 million. So, effectively, it would cost them $37 million, instead of $47 million.

I think you would be more valuable to go justify this to Rogers than Cohen.

 

[Greek_physique]

I was crunching the numbers to figure out how much extra luxury tax the Mets would owe if they signed Alonso.

If the Jays were to front-load a deal at $30 million and the Mets matched it next season, the Mets would have to pay an additional $16.775 million in luxury tax on top of the $30 million in salary for Alonso. That means Alonso would effectively cost them just under $47 million total, factoring in the extra tax charge if they signed him for $30 million.

Keep in mind that the Mets already have Vientos as an option at first base, who profiles to have a similar WAR to Alonso. They also have Winker at DH. While Alonso is undoubtedly better than Winker, the difference might only be around 1 WAR. Considering this, the Mets would essentially be paying almost $47 million for just 1-1.25 WAR.

If the Jays were to add a $30 million dollar bat, the extra CBT charge would be $7.26 million. So, effectively, it would cost them $37 million, instead of $47 million.

Are you able to crunch numbers and find out how much our Roger bills would increase once this happens?

 

[Puckstuff]

Are you able to crunch numbers and find out how much our Roger bills would increase once this happens?

Perhaps 25 cents each, they can handle it

 

[Tw1ster]

Freeing up so more cash for that next big signing??

Knowing Tampa’s track record with no name pitchers, I suspect he’s a future Cy Young candidate

 

[phillipmike]

[Pontes] I had five Blue Jays in the T100. It's the most underrated system in baseball.​

He had them ranked as such

• Ricky Tiedemann - 49th
• Trey Yesavage - 72nd
• Arjun Nimmala - 76th
• Orelvis Martinez - 91st
• Josh Kasevich - 94th

He also noted that he probably rated Roden and Kasevich too low in his Blue Jays top 10, and would have them over Bloss.

 

[Bjindaho]

[Pontes] I had five Blue Jays in the T100. It's the most underrated system in baseball.​

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He had them ranked as such

• Ricky Tiedemann - 49th
• Trey Yesavage - 72nd
• Arjun Nimmala - 76th
• Orelvis Martinez - 91st
• Josh Kasevich - 94th

He also noted that he probably rated Roden and Kasevich too low in his Blue Jays top 10, and would have them over Bloss.

I'm not sure that that is an easy POV to defend.

Tiedemann was trending well, but his TJ surgery likely means that he has less than 100 innings over a 3 year span by the end of next year.

Yesavage has some upside, but he's also a young kid that hasn't pitched in the minors yet.

I am a big Nimmala fan, but he's got some question marks about his hit tool and his position projection.

Martinez has the same question marks as Nimmala and is fresh off a PED suspension.

Kasevich has a bit time hit tool and can play defensively, but has shown no power at all (think Espinal).

On the other hand, I feel like Macko is not getting enough love.

IMO, Tiedemann probably stays top 100 on pedigree, Yesavage shouldn't be there (but could rise), and the others aren't that close.

Looking at longer term, I still believe that Barriera has a legitimate shot at being a quality starter, and Adrian Pinto could be a guy that moves a few levels in the upcoming season if he adjusts well.

Roden is the kind of prospect that is putting up numbers, but there is something about the eye test that scouts don't like him.

 

[habamillions]

All those rumors yesterday about alonso and the whole time he was in a meeting with the LA Angels

 

[phillipmike]

 

[Dr Pepper]

Angels, eh?

Seems random.

At this point it wouldn't surprise me if he signs with Milwaukee tomorrow. No clue what's going on with all these reports.

 

[Dr.Funk]

All those rumors yesterday about alonso and the whole time he was in a meeting with the LA Angels

If anyone is being used by Boras this is it.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Even the poorly run and much crappier L.A. team may beat out the Jays on a free agent.

 

[phillipmike]

I’m convinced he now’s nothing but if anyone cares;

 

[habamillions]

Sticking to the lie.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

I recall vividly that when Shapiro and Atkins took over back when they did, there were constant rumours about the Jays and some player (can't remember whom), and that Shapiro would tell different info to each person covering the team as a way to determine who the snitch was when that rumour came out publicly.

 

[Suntouchable13]

I will be disappointed if they don't add someone else. I guess then this management group is ok with just being just another team. A bat like Alonso can put them in the upper tier of the AL.

 

[Discoverer]

I’m convinced he now’s nothing but if anyone cares;

Nothing to lose at this point. Whether he bails now or waits to be proven wrong, he'll lose all credibility by backing away from his claims.

If he sticks with it, he may still lose all credibility... but there's a chance he looks like he really does have inside sources.

 

[Dr.Funk]