NFL: 2024-25 NFL News, Notes, Other Probably Dumb Stuff and the Like (Bryce Young starting again)

[Blitzkrug]

Chase Daniel is an HFB poster

On a surface level, this makes a bit of sense;

The Rams are probably screwed with Puka/Kupp both out for a bit, already being 0-2 and staring an actual rebuild in the face given Stafford is 36. So in theory it makes sense to get the jump start on it.

Miami obviously needs somebody with Tua being out minimum 6 weeks (if he comes back at all this season) and Stafford would be a perfect replacement since he still has the cannon arm to throw to Tyreek and Waddle deep.

Carolina "wins" by washing their hands of this, getting something resembling value back.

But then reality hits and you have to turn Madden off; The Rams aren't going to trade Stafford (barring something unforseen like him asking for it) for a bust when they can just suck, get a high pick and then take a QB higher in the draft along with keeping Stafford as a mentor to the new guy for the last year of his deal. Miami wouldn't do it because by the looks of it they expect to get Tua back at some point (whether that's smart is neither here or there.) and i'm not 100% sure Carolina would want to do this because trading Young this early is a really bad look for a team that has already let 2 QBs go after awful stints and have them get rehabilitated elsewhere.

Edit: and as GKJ said, money too. Miami has just over 7 million in cap space right now. They would have no way to absorb 40 million dollars of Stafford.

 

[Romang67]

Sounds good until you apply the money.

And that the Rams aren’t throwing in the towel.

Oh, what's $100M in dead cap between friends.

 

[StreetHawk]

Oh, what's $100M in dead cap between friends.

No kidding. Stafford alone is $50 mill. Young is $22 mill. At the end of this season.

 

[GKJ]

Oh, what's $100M in dead cap between friends.

And the Dolphins have to pay Stafford and Tua. Stafford would have to restructure, but he wants to be paid.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Oh, what's $100M in dead cap between friends.

I keep being told the salary cap is merely just a social construct/isn't actually real.

Guess there's only one way to find out. /s

 

[Romang67]

I keep being told the salary cap is merely just a social construct/isn't actually real.

Guess there's only one way to find out. /s

So far this season, there is a direct correlation between offensive dominance and 2025 dead cap hit. Coincidence? Or causation?

Okay, maybe it's just that the Saints have come out firing on all cylinders and they're the only data point, but what if it isn't?

 

[Blitzkrug]

So far this season, there is a direct correlation between offensive dominance and 2025 dead cap hit. Coincidence? Or causation?

Okay, maybe it's just that the Saints have come out firing on all cylinders and they're the only data point, but what if it isn't?

 

[GKJ]

I keep being told the salary cap is merely just a social construct/isn't actually real.

Guess there's only one way to find out. /s

There's actually a story going around on that.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836411021117772217

 

[StreetHawk]

Seems to make sense to spend that amount for insurance? $1-$4 mill policies for 1 or 2 players a year would be like $6 mill on average. That seems like peanuts given the valuation of a NFL team these days. Especially if you just signed the big contract or are in year 2 of it.

Teams with mega billionaire owners should be doing this. $6/7 mill per for a person who has a 11 figure net worth is a drop in the bucket. I can probably understand the lower net worth owners who really only have the NFL team as their main net worth not doing it as they want the extra money.

If you want to win and something goes astray in the year, then if you have the insurance kick in and it saves you $10-15 mill in recovery, you can kick that cap savings to the following season. The current season may be a loss, but you at least can reload for the following year.

 

[Terry Yake]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836400104057524492

Normally i'd say i get it but dude...you played like ass on Sunday.

From what i saw, the Panthers o-line was actually alright. Didn't change the fact Bryce had pisspoor footwork, couldn't hit on the throws that were open and was so obviously playing scared.

Also, maybe don't take the offseason off next time as he spoke of in a quote;



Chase Daniel also did a decent breakdown of why he was benched;

yeah, panthers o-line isn't bad at all. not like last season where they were terrible. and its not like young doesn't have some decent weapons to throw to in johnson and thielen. he isn't good to begin with and now its gotten to his head so he has no confidence. recipe for disaster

 

[Peat]

HC is also probably wanting to see if his offence can actually work with better QB play. Also doesn’t want to lose the locker room with how putrid Young has played.

Everyone knew going in this was a QB development year but they want to see something and so far nothing out of Young.

Kapadia is speculating that it wasn't Canales, it was Tepper, and his point about the timing and Canales' refusal to address Tepper's role in the change does give the idea credence.

 

[Troy McClure]

There's actually a story going around on that.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836411021117772217

And I'm fine with this. It's not like it's actual cap circumvention. These teams are only getting freed up cap space because they lost a player, and it's almost always going to be a player they'd prefer to see on the field vs on IR to free up cap space.

 

[StreetHawk]

And I'm fine with this. It's not like it's actual cap circumvention. These teams are only getting freed up cap space because they lost a player, and it's almost always going to be a player they'd prefer to see on the field vs on IR to free up cap space.

It’s also completely logical. $3 or 4 mill to insure your QB is single digit % against what the team would owe them.
Basically means the current year is likely a wash but you get to add cap space the following year from the insurance coverage.

Would rather have the player of course but injuries do occur.

 

[PeteWorrell]

Bryce Young looks so inept out there that i can't even laugh at him. It would make me feel like i was laughing at a kid who rides the short bus.

 

[Unholy Diver]

Interesting look at the evolution of the QB payscale

The Quarterback Market's Substantial Growth

A year after a host of young quarterbacks jockeyed for position to form the $50MM-per-year club, the Cowboys made Dak …

www.profootballrumors.com

 

[GKJ]

 

[BB88]

Win-win-win trade. Dolphins get a really good QB who has won a SB in the past, the Panthers get a 2nd and a 3rd for what can only be viewed as a massive bust at this point, and the Rams literally won the SB a few years ago so they have no right to complain about how they're getting screwed, giving up Stafford and a 3rd for Young.

In no way can any trade related Bryce be turned into a win anymore

That move set them back years

yeah, panthers o-line isn't bad at all. not like last season where they were terrible. and its not like young doesn't have some decent weapons to throw to in johnson and thielen. he isn't good to begin with and now its gotten to his head so he has no confidence. recipe for disaster

It’s so frustating when most of the media is putting all the blame on everyone else than Bryce

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Kapadia is speculating that it wasn't Canales, it was Tepper, and his point about the timing and Canales' refusal to address Tepper's role in the change does give the idea credence.

Carolina got a man-child owner and they are going to be in the basement until he sells.

 

[LT]

In no way can any trade related Bryce be turned into a win anymore

That move set them back years



It’s so frustating when most of the media is putting all the blame on everyone else than Bryce

Plenty of people are blaming Bryce

There's enough blame for everyone involved. They all suck at what they're supposed to be doing

 

[EpochLink]

Add to the fact Adrian Peterson has 8 kids with multiple baby mama's, SMH.
Good lord, who was managing his money? His 4th baby mama?

 

[PeteWorrell]

Add to the fact Adrian Peterson has 8 kids with multiple baby mama's, SMH.
Good lord, who was managing his money? His 4th baby mama?

Many athletes either don't have anyone managing their money or it's done by a family member or a family friend.

Like Jack Johnson who dumped Pat Brisson and gave control of his assets to his mother. His parents then mismanaged his money and he had to declare bankruptcy.

They think that they are being smart by not hiring a professional to manage their assets and saving on fees. They don't understand that someone competent will save them a lot of money in the long run and help them stay solvent for the reminder of their lives.

 

[EpochLink]

Many athletes either don't have anyone managing their money or it's done by a family member or a family friend.

Like Jack Johnson who dumped Pat Brisson and gave control of his assets to his mother. His parents then mismanaged his money and he had to declare bankruptcy.

They think that they are being smart by not hiring a professional to manage their assets and saving on fees. They don't understand that someone competent will save them a lot of money in the long run and help them stay solvent for the reminder of their lives.

Marshal Lynch, Chad Ochocino all saved their money and invested. Yes he was a good running back but mismanaging the money he’s earned is just straight Antoine Walker type shit.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Marshal Lynch, Chad Ochocino all saved their money and invested. Yes he was a good running back but mismanaging the money he’s earned is just straight Antoine Walker type shit.

Ocho played both sides. He always looked tricked out on sundays with big chains, jewelry, etc. Then he comes out after retirement and admitted they were all fake.

Actually genius shit.

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

Does anyone know of any Free Live Streams for NFL Football I'm getting frustrated with all the horseshit they throw at ya

 

[MMC]

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