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Tkachuk - Stützle - Batherson
Norris - Pinto - Giroux
Perron - Greig - Amadio
Crookshank - Gregor - MacEwen
Ostapchuk (probably in the AHL)

Sanderson - Zub
Chabot - Jensen
Kleven - Hamonic
JBD

Ullmark
Forsberg
 
Gil Gunderson said:
Why did everybody suddenly decide to start penciling in Norris as a winger? I just started seeing this like 4 days ago.
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Probably because of his shoulder. Being a winger is easier on the body and he wouldn't take many faceoffs. It also makes the top-6 more palatable with Pinto showing he can very well center the 2nd line.

We definitely need a 4th line C and a 3rd pairing D because as of right now those look like pure dogshit lol.
 
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Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
Perron - Stutzle - Giroux
Greig - Pinto - Amadio
Gregor - Halliday - MacEwan/Jenik

Chabot - Zub
Sanderson - Jensen
Kleven - Hamonic/JBD

Ullmark - Forsberg/Sogaard
 
Gil Gunderson said:
Why did everybody suddenly decide to start penciling in Norris as a winger? I just started seeing this like 4 days ago.
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he is not going to come in a be an effective center at the start of the season

we saw that last year
 
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HSF said:
he is not going to come in a be an effective center at the start of the season

we saw that last year
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Well, last year he missed all of training camp and the first three games, the assumption is he'll be ready for training camp this year, if he's not than you have a point, but if the surgery is successful and he's ready to go for training camp then last year's start isn't all that relevant.
 
Micklebot said:
Well, last year he missed all of training camp and the first three games, the assumption is he'll be ready for training camp this year, if he's not than you have a point, but if the surgery is successful and he's ready to go for training camp then last year's start isn't all that relevant.
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it took him deep into the season to look comfortable and even then it was obvious he didnt have an offseason of training and lack of strength. He's missing another summer

Missing another summer is pretty massive for a young developing player especially strength wise
 
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Gil Gunderson said:
Why did everybody suddenly decide to start penciling in Norris as a winger? I just started seeing this like 4 days ago.
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Bad shoulder = not good for draws. Combined with Pinto emerging as a legit top 6 option I think it is a natural solution to play Norris on the wing this year.
 
HSF said:
it took him deep into the season to look comfortable and even then it was obvious he didnt have an offseason of training and lack of strength. He's missing another summer
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Ok? Other players have come off shoulder surgery and looked fine. What happened with Norris last year wasn't typical of how returns after shoulder surgery look, typically you are cleared to return to play 4 to 6 month, that year he wasn't ready after over 8 months, it seems pretty clear the surgery wasn't successful. So using last year as your baseline for expectations is assuming surgery won't be successful

If this surgery is a success, his return shouldn't be a mirror of last season. That doesn't mean he'll be exactly like he was before ever injuring the shoulder, just that last season is probably a worst case scenario.
 
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Micklebot said:
Ok? Other players have come off shoulder surgery and looked fine. What happened with Norris last year wasn't typical of how returns after shoulder surgery look, typically you are cleared to return to play 4 to 6 month, that year he wasn't ready after over 8 months, it seems pretty clear the surgery wasn't successful. So using last year as your baseline for expectations is assuming surgery won't be successful

If this surgery is a success, his return shouldn't be a mirror of last season. That doesn't mean he'll be exactly like he was before ever injuring the shoulder, just that last season is probably a worst case scenario.
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we have seen this before. He missed multiple development years and is missing this summer to gain strength. He was getting pushed around a lot last year. He may come in an look like an all star but I think most people doubt it with his history and until he has time to gain the strength required to be a good NHL center

Pinto looks solid so its not a surprise that people are putting him on the wing for an offseason lineup

Curious to know how many players have come back from 3 surgeries on the same shoulder at his age and hit the ground running?
 
HSF said:
we have seen this before. He missed multiple development years and is missing this summer to gain strength. He was getting pushed around a lot last year. He may come in an look like an all star but I think most people doubt it with his history and until he has time to gain the strength required to be a good NHL center

Pinto looks solid so its not a surprise that people are putting him on the wing for an offseason lineup
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We've seen what before? Not this, we saw a guy that wasn't ready right months after surgery last year, if we see that again Norris won't be ready until sometime in November, but that's not what expectations are right now, he is expected to be ready for camp. If he misses all off camp and still isn't ready for contact when the season starts, then you can say we've seen this before, and expect Norris to follow a similar path to last year, but that's expecting things to go about as poorly as they can.
 
Micklebot said:
We've seen what before? Not this, we saw a guy that wasn't ready right months after surgery last year, if we see that again Norris won't be ready until sometime in November, but that's not what expectations are right now, he is expected to be ready for camp. If he misses all off camp and still isn't ready for contact when the season starts, then you can say we've seen this before, and expect Norris to follow a similar path to last year, but that's expecting things to go about as poorly as they can.
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I don't think camp will magically replace a couple full offseasons of building strength. It took deep into the season last year to look comfortable on the ice
 
HSF said:
I don't think camp will magically replace a couple full offseasons of building strength. It took deep into the season last year to look comfortable on the ice
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What a strawman, nobody said camp will replace a couple offseason a of adding strength, but he's not going to be any weaker than he was starting last season if his shoulder actually heals properly and he's ready for camp.

The point is that he missed camp because his shoulder was still a problem, missing camp means it hadn't healed properly and he was still playing catch-up. He was never confident in his shoulder, likely because there was still a problem, if the surgery goes as expected, he should go into camp confident it will hold up. That's a huge difference.

It's nonsensical to assume a similar time frame to last year when last year was clearly atypical of a recovery from this type of surgery. He will of course have a process to go through, but if it look like last year that's an indication things have gone very poorly.
 
Micklebot said:
What a strawman, nobody said camp will replace a couple offseason a of adding strength, but he's not going to be any weaker than he was starting last season if his shoulder actually heals properly and he's ready for camp.

The point is that he missed camp because his shoulder was still a problem, missing camp means it hadn't healed properly and he was still playing catch-up. He was never confident in his shoulder, likely because there was still a problem, if the surgery goes as expected, he should go into camp confident it will hold up. That's a huge difference.

It's nonsensical to assume a similar time frame to last year when last year was clearly atypical of a recovery from this type of surgery. He will of course have a process to go through, but if it look like last year that's an indication things have gone very poorly.
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agree to disagree

No surprise people have him on the wing until he proves otherwise
 
Okay Adrianopolous - Y or N:

Tkachuk - Stuetzle - Batherson
Greig - Norris - Giroux
Perron - Pinto - Amadio
Highmore - Gaudette - MacEwen
Ostapchuk/Jarventie when back

Chabot - Zub
Sanderson - Jensen
Kleven - Bernard-Docker
Hamonic

Ullmark
Forsberg
 
Adrianopolous said:
Tell me the line combos and I’ll tell you if we’re making the playoffs or not.
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I see a big hole on #3RD and 4th line F position.

If we pair Hamonic with Kleven that would not be fair to Klevens development imo.
 
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Alf Silfversson said:
Tkachuk - Stützle - Batherson
Norris - Pinto - Giroux
Perron - Greig - Amadio
Crookshank - Gregor - MacEwen
Ostapchuk (probably in the AHL)

Sanderson - Zub
Chabot - Jensen
Kleven - Hamonic
JBD

Ullmark
Forsberg
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That fourth line needs some work.

Macewen can not be a regular on this team. Gotta be a league minimum forward that upgrades that bottom line.
 
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