Toggle sidebar

2024-25 General Dallas Stars Talk

  • We sincerely apologize for the extended downtime. Our hosting provider, XenForo Cloud, encountered a major issue with their backup system, which unfortunately resulted in the loss of some critical data from the past year.

    What This Means for You:

    • If you created an account after March 2024, it no longer exists. You will need to sign up again to access the forum.
    • If you registered before March 2024 but changed your email, username, or password in the past year, those changes were lost. You’ll need to update your account details manually once you're logged in.
    • Threads and posts created within the last year have been restored.

    Our team is working with Xenforo Cloud to recover data using backups, sitemaps, and other available resources. We know this is frustrating, and we deeply regret the impact on our community. We are taking steps with Xenforo Cloud to ensure this never happens again. This is work in progress. Thank you for your patience and support as we work through this.

    In the meantime, feel free to join our Discord Server
The Tourist said:
Not everything on a fan message board is to be taken literal. When I say they are clueless, it's said with extreme exaggeration.

Rants doesn't work with Hintz. Mav plays well with Benn. The Dallas Stars have a great coaching staff and I wish they would reconsider the lines.

Robo-Hintz-Johnston/Granlund
Marchment-Duchene-Rantanen
Benn-Mav-Granlund/Johnson
Steel-Back-Daddy

These are the lines I would like to see next game. I'd start with Johnston on the top line but if the third line struggles you could always flip Wyatt and Granlund. Granlund has shown the ability to hold the puck and might do alright with Hintz.
Click to expand...
Hopefully Pete sees your lines man, im crossing my fingers this time
 
  • Haha
Reactions: eartotheground
I've made my peace with Mikko not being himself until playoffs. It's been a wild year for him, and he'll need time to adjust to yet another system. It also happened very sudden and abruptly which plays a factor when you consider the human element of things.

I'm hoping come playoff time we'll see the real Mikko, and then moving forward into next season.
 
Mikko will never be himself until they get him off that line.

It's asinine he isn't with Duchene already.

Robertson and Hintz were on FIRE leading up to the deadline, now you've thrown in a 3rd guy on that line who makes zero sense style wise to compliment them and now all 3 of them look like trash.

Robertson-Hintz-Granlund
Marchment-Duchene-Rantanen
Benn-Johnston-Bourque
Steel-Back-Blackwell/Dadonov

Swap Bourque & Granlund if needed, I think either fit on those lines.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: piqued, eartotheground, Smelling Salt and 1 other person
Henderson33 said:
Mikko will never be himself until they get him off that line.

It's asinine he isn't with Duchene already.

Robertson and Hintz were on FIRE leading up to the deadline, now you've thrown in a 3rd guy on that line who makes zero sense style wise to compliment them and now all 3 of them look like trash.

Robertson-Hintz-Granlund
Marchment-Duchene-Rantanen
Benn-Johnston-Bourque
Steel-Back-Blackwell/Dadonov

Swap Bourque & Granlund if needed, I think either fit on those lines.
Click to expand...

Those lines look perfect. Hence why it won’t happen lmao.
 
Yeh I hope Pete doesn't live and die by the sword of wanting the Hintz-Rantanen connection to win it for us.

Hasn't quite worked to start, 13 more games for opportunities for chemistry among other centres..guve Duchene or Wyatt a try.
 
I wasn't a fan of the trade when it was announced, and it's going exactly like I envisioned. I hope he proves me wrong.

He's not one of the players you give $12m to (on top of the assets you gave up)
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Zapp
eartotheground said:
www.usatoday.com

'They'll hold you over a barrel': How NHL team's execs milked youth hockey families for profit

Families paid thousands in unnecessary hotel fees to play in Dallas Stars youth hockey tournaments. Three Stars executives took a cut of the profits.
www.usatoday.com www.usatoday.com

not a great look for what seems to be for the most part a classy org
Click to expand...
Most of that seems like standard operating procedure but the shady bit was those employees creating their own middle-man LLC with no value created. It says also they're no longer with the org.
 
  • Like
Reactions: eartotheground
BigTomBomber said:
I wasn't a fan of the trade when it was announced, and it's going exactly like I envisioned. I hope he proves me wrong.

He's not one of the players you give $12m to (on top of the assets you gave up)
Click to expand...
:huh:


Maybe the 12m is a bit rich, but considering his production as a top 15 forward in the NHL, that's just the cost of business.

But the hope would be Stankoven might one day be even half as good as Rantanen is today.
Losing Stankoven sucks, but if all you have to give up is Stankoven to get a player who is historically been a top 15 to even top 10 player in the league, you take that and run.

Judging Rantanen off a 7 game sample is crazy. Dude has been elite for years, a rough couple weeks following a surprise trade, that he wasn't expecting or prepared for is a kneejerk reaction.
He's literally in a 3rd system in 3 months. (4th if you count the exhibition tournament)
The whole team has been trash since basically Miro got injured, and is being propped up by a hot PP.


Robertson has a rough few months following surgery and then things started to click again for him. It will for Rantanen too. You can see it in his play, he's frustrated, which is a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy because it's causing him to second guess himself and get even more frustrated
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: TangoMcBride, Elysian and Johno
We better hope it works out because, with all the picks + Stank, we are doubtful to keep adding via the draft. It reminds me of the picks DA spent to keep Modano's window open and hurt us for a long time.

So, if anyone remembers, how long did it take Hull, Verbeek (I know his first year was low production) or Zubov to start picking up the points pace?

And, OT, but I was sorting some books and paged through the "99 things a Stars fan needs to know/do." They mentioned that the Pens initiated the Zubov trade (well known I think) and when they said they wanted Hatcher, Gainey assumed it was Derian, and had to hang up to "talk it over" so as not to appear to anxious to complete the steal of a trade. Lites said they were trying to trade Kevin, as he was not great in the locker room, including steering his younger brother and team captain to some bad stuff. That part, I didn't know.

OT2 - Maybe it is a bit early to tell, but which trade was bigger? For Zubie or for Rantanen? Would any other trade qualify as our biggest? Sydor? Bishop? I think Belfour and Hull were UFA signings.
 
  • Wow
Reactions: Johno
FirstRowUpperDeck said:
We better hope it works out because, with all the picks + Stank, we are doubtful to keep adding via the draft. It reminds me of the picks DA spent to keep Modano's window open and hurt us for a long time.

So, if anyone remembers, how long did it take Hull, Verbeek (I know his first year was low production) or Zubov to start picking up the points pace?

And, OT, but I was sorting some books and paged through the "99 things a Stars fan needs to know/do." They mentioned that the Pens initiated the Zubov trade (well known I think) and when they said they wanted Hatcher, Gainey assumed it was Derian, and had to hang up to "talk it over" so as not to appear to anxious to complete the steal of a trade. Lites said they were trying to trade Kevin, as he was not great in the locker room, including steering his younger brother and team captain to some bad stuff. That part, I didn't know.

OT2 - Maybe it is a bit early to tell, but which trade was bigger? For Zubie or for Rantanen? Would any other trade qualify as our biggest? Sydor? Bishop? I think Belfour and Hull were UFA signings.
Click to expand...
Right now easily the zubov trade was bigger I also think the Joe Nieuwendyk trade was bigger than Rantanaan. If they go on to win the Cup and Milo has a big run then maybe it surpasses it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: FirstRowUpperDeck
The Nieuwendyk trade was the biggest in franchise history in terms of what was given up because the traded a kid they knew was going to be awesome and who followed through to be a Hall of Fame. Iginla alone had a better career than whatever the Canes will get from Stankoven and the two draft picks.

The Zubov trade was the biggest steal in franchise history because they added a Hall of Famer for a malcontented old guy on his last legs.
 
  • Like
Reactions: FirstRowUpperDeck, Dallasman, Elysian and 2 others
Looking at the future contract situation, these upcoming playoffs will probably decide Robertson’s fate with the team.

A lot of variables at play, but what I see moving forward is either the top line finds chemistry in the playoffs and are the driving force of the team, or it continues to lack cohesion and ultimately they get split apart for good.

We know the cap is going up and GM’s are gonna start to take bigger swings. A lot of these teams that missed out on Rantanen are going to be interested in JRob as well.

A lot hinges on Seguin though, his body is pretty much done and I don't think he wants any more surgeries considering he's already almost retired from them. He's not going to want to throw away $20m over his last 2 contract years, but maybe LTIRetirement is an option.



Big question for Nill and Co is going to be do you want to run top heavy moving forward or distribute JRob's money back into your depth? What if Seguin is LTIR'd permanently AND we trade JRob?


Could be the most interesting off-season we've ever had.
 
  • Like
Reactions: redbeardtx
I'm very against trading Robertson in general. He's obviously a slow skater, but he's good at everything else. I think he'll be able to keep up his production for a long time because of his smarts.

But if we do end up trading him, we absolutely have to get an elite RHD back. Anything less would be dumb as hell. He'll still be an RFA so teams will know what they're getting into.

There's definitely gonna be some tough decisions coming up here soon though. Just gotta cross that bridge (or long-term deal) when we get there
 
  • Like
Reactions: Elysian
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Ad

Ad

Top Bottom