2024-25 General Dallas Stars Talk

[BrettHullsToe]

It's also hard to make a trade right now with a bubble team that hasn't committed to selling yet. At this moment, Calgary is in a playoff spot, so they'd be looking for more of a hockey trade than swapping rentals for futures and cap dumps as in a typical deadline deal.

 

[Arkham32]

Was listening to the radio and heard giordano name come up and how he’s still skating and was by 5 on 5 metrics the second best dman on the leafs last season, he wouldn’t be a bad signing only problem is he’s 41 not sure how much he has left in the tank. Could call up bischel sign gio as the defense additions then go all in with the trade assets on forward help.

 

[too374]

Everyone here seems obsessed w adding guys with term. Peterson in pit is right sided dman, young and expiring. Kakko is great target low cap, high upside, finn. Also gourde and granlund are primo target bc they are expiring. Expiring guys are cheaper and guys like signing with Dallas after they have been here.

Just saw the kakko trade missing out on that is a giant L

Edit. Also vetrano is a top 6 pp guy who is expiring, ez target

 

[Troy McClure]

Krieder

Everyone here seems obsessed w adding guys with term. Peterson in pit is right sided dman, young and expiring. Kakko is great target low cap, high upside, finn. Also gourde and granlund are primo target bc they are expiring. Expiring guys are cheaper and guys like signing with Dallas after they have been here.

Just saw the kakko trade missing out on that is a giant L

Edit. Also vetrano is a top 6 pp guy who is expiring, ez target

Kakko has no upside.

 

[Satan]

Kakko rules

 

[Troy McClure]

Kakko rules

I guess he’d be a nice upgrade over Blackwell.

 

[Azzuri]

Was listening to the radio and heard giordano name come up and how he’s still skating and was by 5 on 5 metrics the second best dman on the leafs last season, he wouldn’t be a bad signing only problem is he’s 41 not sure how much he has left in the tank. Could call up bischel sign gio as the defense additions then go all in with the trade assets on forward help.

No

 

[M88K]

I guess he’d be a nice upgrade over Blackwell.

Wonder what Seattle would want for him

 

[Satan]

I guess he’d be a nice upgrade over Blackwell.

Dadonov too

 

[too374]

Krieder

Kakko has no upside.

Kreider is 33 and falling off making 6.5 for 2 more seasons.

Kakko 23, expiring on 2.3 mil, in the dog house constantly. Underlying numbers look like nuke before he left Dallas.

 

[Troy McClure]

Kreider is 33 and falling off making 6.5 for 2 more seasons.

Kakko 23, expiring on 2.3 mil, in the dog house constantly. Underlying numbers look like nuke before he left Dallas.

I want no part of Kreider.

Kakko isn’t what this team needs. They don’t need a checking winger. They need goal scoring. The Stars are already full of defensively responsible wingers who don’t score.

 

[too374]

I want no part of Kreider.

Kakko isn’t what this team needs. They don’t need a checking winger. They need goal scoring. The Stars are already full of defensively responsible wingers who don’t score.

I'm more lamenting we should have been in at the price he went for. Especially if it means clearing a depth dman like Seattle did with borgen

 

[Frozen Failure]

We don't have a Will Borgen to give up.

I think the bigger problem right now is that the only hot line is now very broken, Robertson has no footspeed, and Miro has been very mortal this year. Some of the roster decisions have been very odd.

The motivation isn't there either, and that's a PDB thing I think.

I mean hell, it could be that Benn isn't going to re-sign and they're moping because of that.

 

[redbeardtx]

Was listening to the radio and heard giordano name come up and how he’s still skating and was by 5 on 5 metrics the second best dman on the leafs last season, he wouldn’t be a bad signing only problem is he’s 41 not sure how much he has left in the tank. Could call up bischel sign gio as the defense additions then go all in with the trade assets on forward help.

 

[Azzuri]

Kreider would be fine tbh. He's a playoff performer and has speed to burn. Huge passion and effort guy. No one on the NYR are playing motivated right now. I bet a traded Kreider will light shit up.

 

[Satan]

I wouldve taken Kakko - the price truly was f*** all. I think he has another offensive gear to his game.

Kreider would also be sweet. 35+ goals the last 3 years. Imagine not wanting that. You cant win games without putting the puck in the net. I said it before when we were looking at Guentzel, you cant win games never have too many killers

 

[Hockey Dad]

I would rather Panarin if looking at the Rangers. If he would waive he could set up Hintz and Robo. If looking at a scorer what are y’all’s thoughts on Rakell

 

[Satan]

I would rather Panarin if looking at the Rangers. If he would waive he could set up Hintz and Robo. If looking at a scorer what are y’all’s thoughts on Rakell

Agree but idk how realistic it is to fit 11.6M under the hood

Pass on Rakell

 

[roryjones]

I would rather Panarin if looking at the Rangers. If he would waive he could set up Hintz and Robo. If looking at a scorer what are y’all’s thoughts on Rakell

Panarin would be amazing and is probably what this team needs. Dallas needs a superstar player like him that can take over a game. He would help hintz and Robo for sure. He is very expensive but if the rangers are selling worth a look.

The question would be if you got panarin in Dallas how long before Kane asks to come down?

I will say I don’t think the rangers are selling and I think people undervalue that trade. Kakko’s value is super low despite what ranger fans think. Borgen can play top 4. Big physical RHD. He was on the bottom pair this year cause they signed montour but he is capable of being a #4 defender which is what the rangers needed was defense.

I have interest in Rakell. I don’t think he is worth it. Nill needs to aim much higher.

 

[MBTendy]

I’ll take Kreider, i’ll take Kadri, I’ll take anyone who’s been a proven scorer their entire career, especially during the playoffs.

Age, cap, who cares. Nill will make it work, but this team needs guys like that.

I can imagine the comments when Nill got Pavs weren’t great and look how great he was for us … for multiple years nonetheless

 

[Troy McClure]

I wouldve taken Kakko - the price truly was f*** all. I think he has another offensive gear to his game.

The trade price was nice, but it was still a couple of picks you might prefer to use for an actual needed upgrade. Nill has already spent the '25 2nd and '26 4th, so dipping into more of those picks for Kakko would be depleting bullets better used on what would improve the Stars.

Even cap wise, Kakko makes more than every bottom six winger other than Benn, so you're also consuming some amount of the precious Seguin LTIR money on a guy who is a minor redundancy upgrade (upwards of $1.6 million if the guys displaced were Back or Blackwell).

 

[Satan]

The trade price was nice, but it was still a couple of picks you might prefer to use for an actual needed upgrade. Nill has already spent the '25 2nd and '26 4th, so dipping into more of those picks for Kakko would be depleting bullets better used on what would improve the Stars.

Even cap wise, Kakko makes more than every bottom six winger other than Benn, so you're also consuming some amount of the precious Seguin LTIR money on a guy who is a minor redundancy upgrade (upwards of $1.6 million if the guys displaced were Back or Blackwell).

Youre worrying about throw in draft picks w/ no value. Nill traded Dellandrea for a 4th lol

 

[Troy McClure]

Youre worrying about throw in draft picks w/ no value. Nill traded Dellandrea for a 4th lol

I'm worried about going after someone who will actually help improve the team, and we know how Nill hates trading too many draft picks in any one draft year. Blowing some lower picks on a minor upgrade to the 4th line seems like a bad move when Nill needs to feel fully armed to go after a top six guy.

 

[Satan]

I'm worried about going after someone who will actually help improve the team, and we know how Nill hates trading too many draft picks in any one draft year. Blowing some lower picks on a minor upgrade to the 4th line seems like a bad move when Nill needs to feel fully armed to go after a top six guy.

A guy like Kakko is a cost controlled asset- not only would he help the bottom 6 now but possibly show upside for the next 2-5 years. I’d way rather throw darts at guys like him than move 2nd rounders for guys like Max Domi

 

[piqued]

Seattle got incredible value. That's exactly the type of move they should be making.

As for Panarin... he's like the opposite of a player who's going to take over a playoff game. He would vastly improve the regular season power play though