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Man it really is a shame the one year we lose Miro, is the year we have the deepest forward group ever, and when they can utilize LTIR in their favour lol.

Benn-Johnston-Granlund is an insane 3rd line.
 
MBTendy said:
Man it really is a shame the one year we lose Miro, is the year we have the deepest forward group ever, and when they can utilize LTIR in their favour lol.

Benn-Johnston-Granlund is an insane 3rd line.
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They had a month+ to find a viable Heiskanen stop gap, they settled on Ceci for some reason.
We didn't even need to put Heiskanen on LTIR, they were supposedly shopping for another blue liner but we burnt all our last minute time on Rantanen.
Which was/is still a great pickup. but they should have either circled back after addressing the blue Line or did the trade and work out the contract later.
 
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MBTendy said:
Man it really is a shame the one year we lose Miro, is the year we have the deepest forward group ever, and when they can utilize LTIR in their favour lol.

Benn-Johnston-Granlund is an insane 3rd line.
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It doesn't matter how deep the forwards are when none of them seem to dictate or carry play and they are a disjointed mess.
 
M88K said:
They had a month+ to find a viable Heiskanen stop gap, they settled on Ceci for some reason.
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Who could have they got that would truly have made a difference? Let’s be real here, the guys made available weren’t going to be difference makers.

Carlo may have been the best guy moved, and I don’t believe it would have changed much.
 
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MrHeiskanen said:
It doesn't matter how deep the forwards are when none of them seem to dictate or carry play and they are a disjointed mess.
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We’ll see come Saturday. Too much stock is being put into the last couple of months imo.

It’s not great but it is not the end all, be all. It’s a group who’s been around playoff success for several years now, and I believe they can flip a switch. They’ve played a lot of hockey lately and playing balls to the wall for all 82 games haven’t gotten them to the promise land.

That being said, I don’t fault those who are putting a lot of stock into their recent play, and are feeling hopeless.
 
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MBTendy said:
We’ll see come Saturday. Too much stock is being put into the last couple of months imo.

It’s not great but it is not the end all, be all. It’s a group who’s been around playoff success for several years now, and I believe they can flip a switch. They’ve played a lot of hockey lately and playing balls to the wall for all 82 games haven’t gotten them to the promise land.
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I don't see them flipping a switch, I just think it is how this team is.. they are just frequently on the backfoot and still win games so hopefully that happens in the playoffs. It's just hard to get excited when your team gets 3 shots in 10 minutes and generates nothing for basically an entire period at a time.

Getting one or two energy guys really would have solved so much for this team instead of Blackwell/Back who are just go about your business players. I would rather have guys who are willing to make an impact on games still.

If they get juiced up about the playoffs though and everyone is going.. I like our chances. They showed some heart and grit in the Winnipeg game so if everyone does that again and amps it up even more then we could be good.
 
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MBTendy said:
Who could have they got that would truly have made a difference? Let’s be real here, the guys made available weren’t going to be difference makers.

Carlo may have been the best guy moved, and I don’t believe it would have changed much.
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Carlo bumps everyone down a position as he's an actual 2nd pairing guy.
He's not strong with the puck on his stick by any means either, but he's better than 5 of the guys we've dressed every night with Heiskanen out
 
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M88K said:
Carlo bumps everyone down a position as he's an actual 2nd pairing guy.
He's not strong with the puck on his stick by any means either, but he's better than 5 of the guys we've dressed every night with Heiskanen out
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Ya he would make our team better for sure, I am not disputing that. What I’m saying is he isn’t going to make or break the series, even if we had him.

If fans wanted Nill to go after a difference maker on the backend, we aren’t getting Mikko.

At the end of the day, the dman’s that were moved are nothing special, and from what the reports were, the Stars tried. They tried moving out Dumba, but it just didn’t happen.

They put all their eggs in the basket for Mikko once they got word he was available and he wanted to be in Dallas, and honestly, I am glad they did. This team is still built for long term success, even more so now with Mikko locked up. If losing in round 1 this season is the price to pay, so be it.
 
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MBTendy said:
Who could have they got that would truly have made a difference? Let’s be real here, the guys made available weren’t going to be difference makers.
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I still think karlsson may have been the pick up but not after ceci and it would have meant no rant. The question I asked about how you afford a line next year is different w karlsson. You prob wouldn't have to move marchment but you still need to move dumba. Paying to retain salary w karlsson and paying to dump dumba strips you of futures. We traded a lot to get rant but if they can recoup assets w marchment it might be preferable to what they envision the team in 5 years. If rant had been 30 instead of just turning 28 the outlook would be way different.

Edit what I mean w the striping of futures is there is a different value proposition in paying futures for cap vs paying futures for a player(rant) there is more uncertainty in getting cap vs getting a player who is locked up for 7 years or whatever his contract is.
 
MBTendy said:
Who could have they got that would truly have made a difference? Let’s be real here, the guys made available weren’t going to be difference makers.

Carlo may have been the best guy moved, and I don’t believe it would have changed much.
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Carlo also cost nearly as much as Rantanen did

The Dman prices this deadline were insane
 
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LT said:
Carlo also cost nearly as much as Rantanen did

The Dman prices this deadline were insane
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Another option would be to ditch the notion the only people capable of playing RD must shoot right handed. This slavish devotion to this concept has broken roster building because it means GMs are fishing in a very shallow pool.

There just aren't enough right handed defensemen, so teams are playing guys they know f***ing suck all because of this fear that maybe once a game a lefty playing RD will get his exit pass attempt blocked.
 
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