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Speculation: 2024-25 - Free Agency/Trade Thread
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MMC
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I wouldn’t mind JVR, he had a decent enough season last year.
I would take JVR. I wish he was a right shot instead of left, but he'd be a good veteran presence on the 3rd line.
All Mighty
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I certainly wouldn’t hate him for wanting out (same goes for Gibson if that’s the case for him). He’s had to deal with a lot of crap here (just look at this thread) and has been stuck on a terrible team for awhile now. I’d probably want to leave, too.
Do either of them PK? At this point I'd only bring in a "maybe over the hill, maybe something still in the tank" vet if they can PK. Otherwise I feel like we're just clogging up the roster and possibly stifling some of our young guys.
DavidBL
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This. Unless the player is a legit top 6 upgrade that pushes guys down they need to be a PK upgrade. Who ever we add would be pushing Fabri down so that's the bar IMO.
Carlsson, Zegras, McTavish, Gauthier, Terry, Vatrano, Killorn, Strome. Is 8 guys we'd expect to in the line up every night. That's not even including Colangelo.
dracom
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A little more depth wouldn't kill this team.
Gauthier-Carlsson-Killorn
Stroke-McTavish-Vatrano
JVR-Zegras-Terry
Fabbri-Lundestrom-Leason
I don't feel like we lose much playing Fabbri on the fourth line. And it's one more body when there are inevitable injuries.
JVR would have been 7th on our team in scoring, we can make room.
dracom
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I dont know how I feel about Fabbri on the 4th line, but i could see him and JVR swapping spots on occasion.
huh, i honestly didn't think JVR hit 38 points last season. would have guessed like low teens.
AngelDuck
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We need defensive forwards who hound pucks
DavidBL
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Neither can skate, so, no.
Two guys who would do well in an insulated environment, which we cannot provide.
Sean Garrity
Quack Quack Quack!
The bolded is the answer to everyone’s bitching. Also, a vast majority of us , as Smokey pointed out, have been saying “even out the minutes” for YEARS. The fact is that hasn’t happened, and based on history it likely won’t happen. I’ll be the first to tell you to get Cam off the PP entirely(yes, I know his stats but I still think the young and more offensively gifted players need those minutes in addition to taking those minutes off of Cam) and put him on PK2 only if necessary, but coaches (who just MIGHT be smarter than keyboard warriors) continue to put him in that spot.
Thus, my only conclusion can be that the “smarter” folks than us think it’s more beneficial to play him in those situations over the youngsters, for whatever reason. I’m not saying I agree with it, but it is what it is and clearly no coach in the past 5 or so years has seen it the way us smarter fans see it.
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No just points. If it were PPG I believe he would have been 8th, but that was just at a quick glance.
70sSanO
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I don't know if there's a ton of those out there.
Could be more fruitful to try and train Lundy to be that guy. Whats Pahlsson doing? he looking for work?
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To be fair,
3 of those years the goal was to not be good
And the other years we had lindholm here.
Which means to me they felt fowler gave them the best chance at losing more….they were correct.
Fowler served his purpose, unless we’re aiming at 1 more high pick
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To be fair, outside of Gudas last year, name a single defenseman on the roster that belonged above the bottom pairing on a playoff team for that entire period who is not named Fowler?
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fowler was the best of the misfit toys, I never disagree with that.
But the future is coming and he doesn’t fit much longer. This isn’t about if fowler is a capable top 4 dmen, it’s about fit and moving forward
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He only has 2 years left on his contract. He will be gone when it is at the point of him blocking guys who need to play. Mintyukov, Zellweger, and Lacombe have 160 NHL games combined. The future may be coming but it isn't here yet. Put Lacombe and Luneau in the AHL, trade Fowler at the deadline with retention for a big return.
Seems like an absolute no brainer.
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I got no problem waiting until trade deadline to move him…. But I think the future is a lot closer than people think.
I think by the deadline you’ll have lacombe Mintyukov zellweger and luneau ready to play comfortable mins. Luneau I do think should start in ahl, but don’t expect him there long term…. Lacombe imo should be on nhl roster
I’m open to moving fowler now if there is a market also
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I would rather have Lacombe in the AHL playing top pairing minutes in every situation. Especially if Vaak plays like last season.
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Guess we’ll wait and see but lacombe was with big club all year last year and was asked to do a lot…. Don’t see a big chance he gets sent down, not opposed to it …. Just think it’s more unlikely.
