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Thats how we are drafting low ceiling guys from 3th to 5th because "sounds more to me like a 5 or 6 round pick". Good luck with drafting him in the third.
Can you give me a couple of examples if you can where this type of player was drafted let’s say between 1 and 2 round who ended up being a good player?

I am really curious because my knowledge of this is limited.
 
Can you give me a couple of examples if you can where this type of player was drafted let’s say between 1 and 2 round who ended up being a good player?

I am really curious because my knowledge of this is limited.
You mean productive physical center with top-tier playmaking vision(on the draft), slick hands and good skating? Hm...
I didnt watch for every player on the draft who needs more cardio but I guess thats something he will disciplin himself with the time or with new coaches.


He is top-10 level talent who has passion for the game and character that didnt help him to make good relationships with Dynamo. But he is always trying to play with partners, protect them and not focusing on his own stats. He will become NHL player because everything he needs to working with is his personal immaturity. How is it fixed? With experience. He will be better than several players who will be selected in the top 20. Maybe even the top 10. Thats how Chernyshov was available in the second round year ago. Even if I like Chernyshov much more, Ryabkin is absolutely the pick in the second round if he will become available. I dont care that he is Russian or not. He wasnt bully in the locker room against his teammates, he is a bully against opponents. If some American hockey player has his combo of skills and has lower stocks because of his previous relationships with ex-team and problems with being overweight and losing the energy, give me the player in the second round.
 
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You mean productive physical center with top-tier playmaking vision(on the draft), slick hands and good skating? Hm...
I didnt watch for every player on the draft who needs more cardio but I guess thats something he will disciplin himself with the time or with new coaches.
Sorry I didn’t wrote it differently, I mean examples of a player with high sealing but a shitty attitude/ questionable character who’s draft stock plummeted but became a good player afterwards
 
Sorry I didn’t wrote it differently, I mean examples of a player with high sealing but a shitty attitude/ questionable character who’s draft stock plummeted but became a good player afterwards
Knies. He was drafted waaaay lower because he was sh1tty teammate - character issues. Ryabkin wasnt sh1tty teammate, he had problems with management/he was sh1tty subordinate.
 
Knies. He was drafted waaaay lower because he was sh1tty teammate - character issues. Ryabkin wasnt sh1tty teammate, he had problems with management/he was sh1tty subordinate.
How about Alexei Protas? He fell all the way to 91. Was he a bad player who developed well beyond expectations or was he not scouted or did he have personal issues?
 
How about Alexei Protas? He fell all the way to 91. Was he a bad player who developed well beyond expectations or was he not scouted or did he have personal issues?
He is Belarus player with weak skating. Underscouted, undervalued. His production is great and he is over his expectations but his performance isn't going from nowhere. Never heard something about his attitude.

But I heard something about Connely and Mailloux. Both were bad persons as teammates, its not just immaturity as it is in Ryabkin case where player is thinking a lot about himself. Both were drafted in the first round.
 
He is Belarus player with weak skating. Underscouted, undervalued. His production is great and he is over his expectations but his performance isn't going from nowhere. Never heard something about his attitude.

But I heard something about Connely and Mailloux. Both were bad persons as teammates, its not just immaturity as it is in Ryabkin case where player is thinking a lot about himself. Both were drafted in the first round.
Mailloux wasn't consistently disliked by his teammates, but there were whispers he wasn't a very bright kid and then he went out and made a huuuuuge mistake which seemed to prove a lack of general intelligence. To his credit, he was vocally remorseful of his own actions and has not repeated the mistakes of his earlier youth.

Connelly I'm more skeptical of because his almost disturbing entitlement -- both on and off the ice -- have been a recurring theme throughout his entire adolescence. He's a lot more talented than Mailloux, however, and this is going to give him a lot of slack with NHL teams. I mean, we're not that far away from the Bruins signing Mitchell Miller -- one of the worst human beings ever to don a hockey jersey in any league, anywhere.

Ryabkin doesn't really compare with any of these kids. He did not make the "one big moral mistake" like Mailloux, he has not been accused of racism or systematic toxicity like Connelly, and he is certainly not an evil person who you would not allow in a room with your child like Miller. If anything, Ryabkin is just subjectively immature and needs to really, really grow up.

It's also important to mention that Ryabkin's talent level is far ahead of Mailloux and Miller, and probably on about an even plane with Connolly, with the potential to be a bit better. So, if the Devils are drafting at #50 overall and Ryabkin is on the board -- a very, very possible scenario -- well, let's just say it's important that the New Jersey front office does their due diligence on this kid, because he has the potential to be a franchise-altering pick at that spot.
 
Sorry I didn’t wrote it differently, I mean examples of a player with high sealing but a shitty attitude/ questionable character who’s draft stock plummeted but became a good player afterwards

I think you have to be careful there because this is (right now) its a one time thing between him and Dynamo, right?

I think a lot will depend on what comes out of interviews with staff / teammates in the USHL. You have to leave open the possibility that he and management (in Russia) didn't get along and not necessarily an indication of a recurring problem for him everywhere.
 
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RW/LW Victor Eklund, Djurgardens SHL

Here we have the perfect example of my "one inch" theory (no jokes please @My3Sons) simply because, at 5'11-170, Eklund's major criticism is that he's a "small forward". This is not an argument you would hear if Eklund were, say, 6'0-180 and, to be frank, if this were the case the consensus would probably have him ranked over Porter Martone as the top winger available in the 2025 draft.

Eklund is not a franchise talent per se, but he is what I would call a "perfect player" in the sense that he has no weakness whatsoever, mental or physical. Though he lacks a singular elite physical talent, every aspect of his skill set is absolutely high end -- skating, puck handling, shooting, passing vision, two-way play, transition, forechecking. You name it, Victor Eklund excels at it. His head is always up and, though he does not have the best hands in the draft, he's as good at anyone at a rare ability to make slick puck-handling dekes while keeping his head up to constantly spy for openings and passing lanes. He is also top notch at combining quick mitts with quick feet, using myriad jukes and pivots to retain puck control and find the perfect play. In this way, the NHLer he reminds of most is probably Jesper Bratt, and I strongly feel this is the type of player Eklund is likely to one day achieve the heights of.

With all his physical tools, Eklund's greatest attributes are his intangibles. As I have repeated at length for many years, hockey IQ and compete level need to be scrutinized more heavily with draft-eligible hockey prospects because, quite plainly, they play up the level of every single physical tool. As for Eklund, his compete level is as good as any player in a draft which, though lacking in pure physical talent, features several players with the highest imaginable levels of compete level (Bear, Miller, Reschny, Desnoyers, Cootes, Zonnon, etc.). To me, Eklund is absolutely can't miss as an NHL top 6 stud because all of his tools are excellent across the board and then play up even higher because he's a player of almost preternatural desire and understanding of the game.

Eklund simply has it all. Deception, misdirection, anticipation -- combined with hustle hustle hustle and a fearlessness which is almost mesmerizing to watch. Every shift is life or death to this kid, but despite his ferocity he's a brilliant hockey player and you'd have to watch several games of film to find him making a mental mistake. There's nothing he really needs to work on and no criticism -- he just needs to get a bit stronger and work on his core strength, which will happen naturally with time and professional physical training. I don't think there is a spot "too early" to draft Victor Eklund once Matthew Schaefer and Michael Misa are off the board, because this kid is just one hell of a hockey player.
 
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RW/LW Victor Eklund, Djurgardens SHL

Here we have the perfect example of my "one inch" theory (no jokes please @My3Sons) simply because, at 5'11-170, Eklund's major criticism is that he's a "small forward". This is not an argument you would hear if Eklund were, say, 6'0-180 and, to be frank, if this were the case the consensus would probably have him ranked over Porter Martone as the top winger available in the 2025 draft.

Eklund is not a franchise talent per se, but he is what I would call a "perfect player" in the sense that he has no weakness whatsoever, mental or physical. Though he lacks an elite physical talent, every aspect of his skill set is absolutely high end -- skating, puck handling, shooting, passing vision, two-way play, transition, forechecking. You name it, Victor Eklund excels at it. His head is always up and, though he does not have the best hands in the draft, he's as good at anyone at a rare ability to make slick puck-handling dekes while keeping his head up to constantly spy for openings and passing lanes. He is also top notch at combining quick mitts with quick feet, using myriad jukes and pivots to retain puck control and find the perfect play. In this way, the NHLer he reminds of most is probably Jesper Bratt, and I strongly feel this is the type of player Eklund is likely to one day achieve the heights of.

With all his physical tools, Eklund's greatest attributes are his intangibles. As I have repeated at length for many years, hockey IQ and compete level need to be scrutinized more heavily with draft-eligible hockey prospects because, quite plainly, they play up the level of every single physical tool. As for Eklund, his compete level is as good as any player in a draft which, though lacking in pure physical talent, features several players with the highest imaginable levels of compete level (Bear, Miller, Reschny, Desnoyers, Cootes, Zonnon, etc.). To me, Eklund is absolutely can't miss as an NHL top 6 stud because all of his tools are excellent across the board and then play up even higher because he's a player of almost preternatural desire and understanding of the game.

Eklund simply has it all. Deception, misdirection, anticipation -- combined with hustle hustle hustle and a fearlessness which is almost mesmerizing to watch. Every shift is life or death to this kid, but despite his ferocity he's a brilliant hockey player and you'd have to watch several games of film to find him making a mental mistake. There's nothing he really needs to work on and no criticism -- he just needs to get a bit stronger and work on his core strength, which will happen naturally with time and professional physical training. I don't think there is a spot "too early" to draft Victor Eklund once Matthew Schaefer and Michael Misa are off the board, because this kid is just one hell of a hockey player.
Hey, your poor choice of words is your own fault Mr. published author. Nobody held a gun to your head and told you to drop those comments in front of me. You know I post here and also that I'm dangerous with diction and have a painfully bad sense of humor. If you put a steak on the ground in front of my golden retrievers are you going to act surprised when they eat it?
 
Hey, your poor choice of words is your own fault Mr. published author. Nobody held a gun to your head and told you to drop those comments in front of me. You know I post here and also that I'm dangerous with diction and have a painfully bad sense of humor. If you put a steak on the ground in front of my golden retrievers are you going to act surprised when they eat it?
"My3Sons, dangerous with dic...tion"
 
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I think you have to be careful there because this is (right now) its a one time thing between him and Dynamo, right?

I think a lot will depend on what comes out of interviews with staff / teammates in the USHL. You have to leave open the possibility that he and management (in Russia) didn't get along and not necessarily an indication of a recurring problem for him everywhere.
well...maybe not at an organizational level, but this is a player who definitely had some concerns heading into the season. poor body language, rumors of being difficult to play with, and i mean, you can go load up d-1 tape right now and see him celebrating goals/assists off by himself. funny enough, in later season tape this year, you could actually see him trying to catch himself with this and scooting back to his linemates after goals lol

the word on the street is he straight up bombed combine interviews
 
well...maybe not at an organizational level, but this is a player who definitely had some concerns heading into the season. poor body language, rumors of being difficult to play with, and i mean, you can go load up d-1 tape right now and see him celebrating goals/assists off by himself. funny enough, in later season tape this year, you could actually see him trying to catch himself with this and scooting back to his linemates after goals lol

the word on the street is he straight up bombed combine interviews

Ahh, okay....thats not ideal lol
 
I think you have to be careful there because this is (right now) its a one time thing between him and Dynamo, right?

I think a lot will depend on what comes out of interviews with staff / teammates in the USHL. You have to leave open the possibility that he and management (in Russia) didn't get along and not necessarily an indication of a recurring problem for him everywhere.
He has some marks of immaturity. Bad relationships with previous organisation, didn't want y listen some coaches, didn't want to play on lesser level, focusing on personal performance.
Its okay to worry about it with 15th pick. Work ethic is important thing. But still a thing you can easily teach or the player can just be more mature to understand that sometimes it's better to not be the center of the universe.
But like Steve said, he isn't the case of "bully" personality you just don't want to have around. He isn't bad person, he is difficult person. Its different.

But I think at least SJ, flyers or hurricanes will pick him before us. Or ene other team. Because he is good sister, he is very very very physical, he is creative center, he isn't small, he is already playing in NA. So I don't think he will be available for 50th pick.
 
Mailloux wasn't consistently disliked by his teammates, but there were whispers he wasn't a very bright kid and then he went out and made a huuuuuge mistake which seemed to prove a lack of general intelligence. To his credit, he was vocally remorseful of his own actions and has not repeated the mistakes of his earlier youth.

Connelly I'm more skeptical of because his almost disturbing entitlement -- both on and off the ice -- have been a recurring theme throughout his entire adolescence. He's a lot more talented than Mailloux, however, and this is going to give him a lot of slack with NHL teams. I mean, we're not that far away from the Bruins signing Mitchell Miller -- one of the worst human beings ever to don a hockey jersey in any league, anywhere.

Ryabkin doesn't really compare with any of these kids. He did not make the "one big moral mistake" like Mailloux, he has not been accused of racism or systematic toxicity like Connelly, and he is certainly not an evil person who you would not allow in a room with your child like Miller. If anything, Ryabkin is just subjectively immature and needs to really, really grow up.

It's also important to mention that Ryabkin's talent level is far ahead of Mailloux and Miller, and probably on about an even plane with Connolly, with the potential to be a bit better. So, if the Devils are drafting at #50 overall and Ryabkin is on the board -- a very, very possible scenario -- well, let's just say it's important that the New Jersey front office does their due diligence on this kid, because he has the potential to be a franchise-altering pick at that spot.
I didn't want to even remember Miller case.

I just hope for all of them to teach and change. In Ryabkin case he shouldn't change dramatically, he should be better version of himself. And like Evan said, he is learning how to celebrate goals with his teammates. Smalls steps forward.
 
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Now I’m just a hockey interested guy from Denmark, but what I have fallen over continuously is players with these type of character flaws never seems to make it very fare in the nhl.
Nhl is dominated by Canadian and US coaches and they don’t have the patience for these type of players.
Don’t see him making it very fare, will jump between 3-5 Nhl teams and then Europe.
 
How about Alexei Protas? He fell all the way to 91. Was he a bad player who developed well beyond expectations or was he not scouted or did he have personal issues?
Protas's draft year was not overly impressive. 40 points in 60 something WHL games.

He had a big D+1 year, and then didn't do much of anything until this year. Some meh numbers in the AHL. Even just last year in Wash 6 goals 29 points.

He's a mountain though.
 
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RD Logan Hensler, Wisconsin NCAA

There is no reason not to draft Logan Hensler, the only question is how early you take him. Defensively, you already know what you will get with him -- a right-shooting D with good size (6'2-200) and high-end skating skills with good skills across the board who excels in a shut-down role and already shows near-professional levels of abilities against the rush and in the defensive zone. The only question -- much like with players like Brock Faber and Jake Slavin in their draft years -- is whether he possesses another gear offensively which could see him blossom into more of a two-way threat from the blueline.

Hensler will surely go in the first round, possibly in the top 15, simply because NHL front offices value right-shot defenders, especially when they combine his size and high-end speed. But Hensler is excellent at hockey -- as a freshman on an uncharacteristically weak Wisconsin team it took him just a handful of games to become one of the most solid defenders in college hockey against the rush and in the defensive zone.

Hensler's gaps, positioning and anticipation are all high end -- this is a high-IQ defender with a very polished game. His anticipation of what the offense is planning is simply terrific, and he rarely gets baited by misdirection and deception. Though not an aggressively physical defender, he excels at using his body to win battles in small spaces and has shown great ability to use shoulder checks and positioning to separate puck-carriers from the puck. He's going to be a great NHL defender, there should be little doubt in that.

What makes Hensler a subject of criticism among the stat-obsessed draft-niks is that, quite frankly, he did not put up any offensive numbers as a freshman in Wisconsin. What makes Hensler almost remarkably intriguing as a prospect is that these numbers should be thrown out the window with him -- Hensler was a defense-first defenseman playing a defensive role as the youngest member of a team which had almost no scoring talent up front and struggled to pot goals all season long. Hensler's offensive tools are very good across the board -- he's a phenomenal skater with an excellent shot and very good puck handling capabilities. Hensler's passing is strong -- if very conservative -- and his high overall hockey IQ lends belief he is capable of a higher-vision game. His transition game is also excellent, and also only held back by always seeming to prefer the safe play. If this kid develops any arrogance with the puck, look out because all signs point to a player who could put up some really impressive scoring totals if the switch flips.

After ostensible first overall pick Matthew Schaefer, Logan Hensler deserves to be considered in the second tier of 2025 eligible defensemen alongside Jackson Smith, Kashawn Aitcheson and Radim Mrtka. He's neck-and-neck with Mrtka as the best RD in the entire class. He's a surefire NHLer and deserves consideration any time outside the top 5-7 or so picks.
 
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RW Shane Vansaghi, Michigan State NCAA

Shane Vansaghi is a singular player with a multitude of possibilities. Though this might sound contradictory, in his specific case it is not. In his freshman campaign in the NCAA, an extremely strong and deep Spartans squad utilized him in an exclusively third-line role, and by the end of the season he was one of the best third-liners in the entire collegiate circuit. A relentless forechecker with an elite compete level and one of the most aggressively physical games in the 2025 class, the 6'2-215 Vansaghi thrived all season as a one man "get-the-opposing-defense-on-their-heels" machine. Vansaghi's thunderous hits and relentless pursuit of the puck led to a metric ton of turnovers going his team's way, and immediately following he was charging every opposing net like a bull in a paper-mache shop. But what makes him most intriguing is that he actually is possessing of a stellar offensive tool kit and capable of much, much more if his role is -- and inevitably will be -- increased.

Shane Vansaghi's finest attributes are immediately clear. He's very big -- combining 6'2 reach with a barrel-chested 215 pound frame -- and one of the strongest pound-for-pound forwards in the entire draft. Vansaghi knows this quite well, and as such is maybe the most physical forward available alongside Brady Martin and Carter Bear. He spent much of the NCAA absolutely pulverizing defenders who were 4 and 5 years older. But what makes him a legitimate 1st round pick is the fact that his offensive tools are also downright tantalizing.

Vansaghi is a powerful shooter who can blast a puck by an unscreened netminder from well beyond the circles. He can clean up his release and work a bit on accuracy but the power is unquestionably immense and a strong tool to work with. He's also a high-intelligence offensive player, able to make borderline high-end passing plays and, almost surprisingly, absolutely dangle with the puck. Between his ability to shield his hands with his astoundingly powerful frame and an ability to make some dazzlingly high-end moves, he is singularly able to create time and extend in-zone possession.

Vansaghi's foremost skill is probably one few prospect analysts ever mention. This is to say he is almost preternaturally able to make skill plays through defensive traffic and pressure. He is so strong and composed both with and without the puck that he has the rare ability to deflect pucks while taking hits and make one-handed plays while shielding off even the most physical defenders. Though rarely mentioned, this is one of the most easily translatable abilities into the NHL -- his head never slows its processing of the game despite physical pressure, and his high-end hand-eye coordination has the ability to follow through on it.

Vansaghi is certainly a first-round pick because of all the aforementioned traits, but he will probably go later in the round due to his singular, and significant flaw -- he is probably a below-average to average skater. Were he quick on his feet with high acceleration, his outstanding forechecking and puck pursuit would play up to the level of a kid who could go top 15 in the draft. Unfortunately, as it stands the skating is the singular aspect holding back his otherwise impressive array of abilities.

Were I a team picking in the 20s, Vansaghi would be near or at the top of my wishlist. He's an excellent bet to become one of the better 3rd line power forwards in hockey and, if he can improve his skating to a reasonable degree, there is absolutely the chance he develops into a 2nd line power forward at the highest levels.
 
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LD Dakoda Rheaume-Mullen, Michigan NCAA

Year in and year out, I try to find under-the-radar defensemen who have a strong chance of regular, dependable roles at the NHL level. Rheaume-Mullen has been greatly overlooked by the scouting community because, quite simply, he lacks a *niche* of "offensive defenseman" or "big defensive defenseman" or anything of the sort. Instead, he's just one of those guys who is exceptionally solid in his quiet effectiveness both with and without the puck. He's a fundamentally sound and subtly intelligent 6'0-180 blueliner who helps his team win in every aspect of the game without any singular dazzling quality. Oh yeah -- except for the fact that he's an elite skater, one of the very best in the entire 2025 class.

Dakoda comes from strong hockey bloodlines, the son of Manon Rheaume and the nephew of ex-Devil Pascal Rheaume. He plays a very simple and fundamental game: in the defensive zone he works hard and works smart to get the puck, then makes quick and efficient low-risk plays to start transition or clear the zone. In transition, he can really shine the most, as his speed and strong puck handling can really back up an opposing defense. In the offensive zone he does not like to take chances, rather playing a responsible game and showing some excellent anticipation and coordination in keeping the puck in the zone.

Dakoda is not physically aggressive but fears nothing and shows no reluctance in battling with much bigger and older NCAA forwards. His gaps, positioning and maturity all grade out as excellent across the board. It's not sexy perhaps, but this is just a very dependable player who, when you factor in his elite skating ability, displays a great deal of potential for the NHL game.

Often overlooked, Dakoda Rheaume-Mullen must be considered one of the better sleepers for the 2025 draft because he has both a high probability of becoming a long-time NHL regular and a bit of untapped upside due to the high-end skating and smarts. For a player likely to be available in the 3rd or 4th rounds it would be difficult to make a smarter pick.
 
This kid isn't eligible till next year but I'll just throw this here.

7 foot d-man. Light on experience and only played AAA in his first year in the US. Looks like Penn State has a spot for him in a couple years.



Not that I think he's a prospect or anything, but interesting story, and he does crush the guy later in the video.
 
Have yet to have this confirmed or corrected. Is Amidovski any relation to former Trenton Titans goalie Bujar Amidovski?

Yes, good call back.

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