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2025 Draft Profile:

RD Blake Fiddler, Edmonton WHL

Routinely ranked in the 20s and 30s, you can completely throw that out the window when writing up your mock drafts with Blake Fiddler. Why? Well, he's a 6'4-210 right-shot defenseman who skates very well, can shoot the lights out, has NHL bloodlines and is one of the youngest players available for the 2025 draft. NHL front offices go full Pavlovian Dog for the rare draft-eligibles like Fiddler, who is a good bet to sneak into the top 15 come draft day.

Fiddler is a work in progress for certain, but he shows a very high ceiling on both sides of the puck. Defensively, the sky is the limit as Fiddler is an incredibly strong player with a very good work ethic who is not afraid to play the physical game. With his long reach and strong skating, it's very hard to go around him. With his size and power, it's virtually impossible to go through him. The only way to beat Fiddler is to out-think him, as the nuances of his defensive game all need work -- positioning, gaps, anticipation. This is not to say his hockey IQ is lacking -- as stated, with a July birthday Fiddler is very young, and he has thus far over-relied on his physical gifts and simply needs coaching and development to improve in the more subtle aspects of patrolling a blueline.

The knock on Fiddler in this analytic-and-statistic obsessed scouting generation has been his offensive production, which was good-but-not-great with a 10g-33a-43p line in 64 games. The more one watches Fiddler however, the more one realizes the skill set is there and he is further from his ceiling in the offensive game than defensive. He can shoot, he can skate, and he's a better-than-expected puck handler. Though he is susceptible to mental mistakes with the puck, he shows flashes of being a decent passer. Still, with his rocket of a shot I suspect most of his scoring totals will come from simply launching the puck on net.

The team which drafts Fiddler will have to be patient, as he is a raw work in progress and his development arc could take 4 or 5 years before he's ready for the NHL. But the potential rewards are certainly significant -- the possibility of a huge, mobile and physical shut-down defender who can also tally double-digit goal totals annually and offer several 40+ point seasons at the highest levels. As such, it's tough to see him getting past the top 20 picks in the 2025 NHL Draft.
 
2025 Draft Profile:

RD Blake Fiddler, Edmonton WHL

Routinely ranked in the 20s and 30s, you can completely throw that out the window when writing up your mock drafts with Blake Fiddler. Why? Well, he's a 6'4-210 right-shot defenseman who skates very well, can shoot the lights out, has NHL bloodlines and is one of the youngest players available for the 2025 draft. NHL front offices go full Pavlovian Dog for the rare draft-eligibles like Fiddler, who is a good bet to sneak into the top 15 come draft day.

Fiddler is a work in progress for certain, but he shows a very high ceiling on both sides of the puck. Defensively, the sky is the limit as Fiddler is an incredibly strong player with a very good work ethic who is not afraid to play the physical game. With his long reach and strong skating, it's very hard to go around him. With his size and power, it's virtually impossible to go through him. The only way to beat Fiddler is to out-think him, as the nuances of his defensive game all need work -- positioning, gaps, anticipation. This is not to say his hockey IQ is lacking -- as stated, with a July birthday Fiddler is very young, and he has thus far over-relied on his physical gifts and simply needs coaching and development to improve in the more subtle aspects of patrolling a blueline.

The knock on Fiddler in this analytic-and-statistic obsessed scouting generation has been his offensive production, which was good-but-not-great with a 10g-33a-43p line in 64 games. The more one watches Fiddler however, the more one realizes the skill set is there and he is further from his ceiling in the offensive game than defensive. He can shoot, he can skate, and he's a better-than-expected puck handler. Though he is susceptible to mental mistakes with the puck, he shows flashes of being a decent passer. Still, with his rocket of a shot I suspect most of his scoring totals will come from simply launching the puck on net.

The team which drafts Fiddler will have to be patient, as he is a raw work in progress and his development arc could take 4 or 5 years before he's ready for the NHL. But the potential rewards are certainly significant -- the possibility of a huge, mobile and physical shut-down defender who can also tally double-digit goal totals annually and offer several 40+ point seasons at the highest levels. As such, it's tough to see him getting past the top 20 picks in the 2025 NHL Draft.
Is he related to Vern?
 
2025 Draft Profile:

RD Blake Fiddler, Edmonton WHL

Routinely ranked in the 20s and 30s, you can completely throw that out the window when writing up your mock drafts with Blake Fiddler. Why? Well, he's a 6'4-210 right-shot defenseman who skates very well, can shoot the lights out, has NHL bloodlines and is one of the youngest players available for the 2025 draft. NHL front offices go full Pavlovian Dog for the rare draft-eligibles like Fiddler, who is a good bet to sneak into the top 15 come draft day.

Fiddler is a work in progress for certain, but he shows a very high ceiling on both sides of the puck. Defensively, the sky is the limit as Fiddler is an incredibly strong player with a very good work ethic who is not afraid to play the physical game. With his long reach and strong skating, it's very hard to go around him. With his size and power, it's virtually impossible to go through him. The only way to beat Fiddler is to out-think him, as the nuances of his defensive game all need work -- positioning, gaps, anticipation. This is not to say his hockey IQ is lacking -- as stated, with a July birthday Fiddler is very young, and he has thus far over-relied on his physical gifts and simply needs coaching and development to improve in the more subtle aspects of patrolling a blueline.

The knock on Fiddler in this analytic-and-statistic obsessed scouting generation has been his offensive production, which was good-but-not-great with a 10g-33a-43p line in 64 games. The more one watches Fiddler however, the more one realizes the skill set is there and he is further from his ceiling in the offensive game than defensive. He can shoot, he can skate, and he's a better-than-expected puck handler. Though he is susceptible to mental mistakes with the puck, he shows flashes of being a decent passer. Still, with his rocket of a shot I suspect most of his scoring totals will come from simply launching the puck on net.

The team which drafts Fiddler will have to be patient, as he is a raw work in progress and his development arc could take 4 or 5 years before he's ready for the NHL. But the potential rewards are certainly significant -- the possibility of a huge, mobile and physical shut-down defender who can also tally double-digit goal totals annually and offer several 40+ point seasons at the highest levels. As such, it's tough to see him getting past the top 20 picks in the 2025 NHL Draft.
I think Fiddler will be picked higher than expected. GMs and journalists have different opinions about this type of a player. He is right defenseman with skating, physics, size on a weaker draft. He isn't my favorite or something but with years I think Fiddler is the player some GMs would love to draft in the middle of the first round.
 
I think Fiddler will be picked higher than expected. GMs and journalists have different opinions about this type of a player. He is right defenseman with skating, physics, size on a weaker draft. He isn't my favorite or something but with years I think Fiddler is the player some GMs would love to draft in the middle of the first round.

NJ drafted Silayev who is basically a big strong good skating defense first guy and that pick was well received. In today’s NHL you can’t have too many good skaters on defense with size and strength
 
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NJ drafted Silayev who is basically a big strong good skating defense first guy and that pick was well received. In today’s NHL you can’t have too many good skaters on defense with size and strength
Fiddler for the 2025 draft is not close to Silayev for the 2024 draft, but theoretically I agree with you. Silayev could probably handle a role in the NHL right now, while Fiddler might not see the pros until 2029 or so. I love Fiddler as a pick in the 20s which a winning organization can stash and develop. My only worry is that he goes in the 10-15 range because of the size/skating/bloodlines/RD thing and the team which drafts him rushes his development because they took him so high.

I think of Fiddler more like Dylan Samberg (one of my favorite 2017 sleepers as you might recall) in his draft year -- all the tools and intangibles are there, but they have yet to co-align. Like Samberg, Fiddler has a good hockey IQ but not an elite one, so he simply needs time, coaching and reps. It's my conviction Fiddler will get there, it's just going to take time.
 
I think Fiddler will be picked higher than expected. GMs and journalists have different opinions about this type of a player. He is right defenseman with skating, physics, size on a weaker draft. He isn't my favorite or something but with years I think Fiddler is the player some GMs would love to draft in the middle of the first round.
I really like Fiddler, as you can certainly tell, but he might have too much to work on to justify a top 15 pick. I love him anywhere post #20-overall, but of course I agree with you that some NHL front office will be drooling so heavily at his combination of size/skating/bloodlines/RD that he's a possibility to go in the top 12, maybe even the top 10.

I can see Fiddler going as high as #9 to the perennially "what in the world are they thinking?" Buffalo Sabres, who are perennially desperate at RD. We also have to keep in mind that Boston picks #7 and the last time they had early picks in a draft they passed up Kyle Connor and Mat Barzal for Jake Zboril and Zach Senyshyn. They are also a front office with a huge emphasis on size.

Personally I think Mrtka -- a far more polished RD -- goes to one of these two teams, but Fiddler is still a possibility to sneak up higher than we all expect in the draft, as you said.
 
I really like Fiddler, as you can certainly tell, but he might have too much to work on to justify a top 15 pick. I love him anywhere post #20-overall, but of course I agree with you that some NHL front office will be drooling so heavily at his combination of size/skating/bloodlines/RD that he's a possibility to go in the top 12, maybe even the top 10.

I can see Fiddler going as high as #9 to the perennially "what in the world are they thinking?" Buffalo Sabres, who are perennially desperate at RD. We also have to keep in mind that Boston picks #7 and the last time they had early picks in a draft they passed up Kyle Connor and Mat Barzal for Jake Zboril and Zach Senyshyn. They are also a front office with a huge emphasis on size.

Personally I think Mrtka -- a far more polished RD -- goes to one of these two teams, but Fiddler is still a possibility to sneak up higher than we all expect in the draft, as you said.
Reason why I said "in the middle of the first round" is existence of Mrtka. Buffalo looks like a team that desperately need in RD. On the other hand they are drafting BPA in their view draft after draft. So may be they will pass away from both.
I don't know what Boston will do on this dradt. They need everything. It is do sad that Devils didn't trade something nothing to Boston for the first round pick before the 24-25 season or in the beginning of it.

When Fitz said he will change the lineup, its interesting how he wanna act. Does he wanna trade his second round pick for players, or trade some players for picks, or with picks, or sign free agents. Really hard to understand what we can wait from the draft when we know about his desire to make changes but we don't know what kind of a strategy he will pick.
I hope he will save at least some picks for drafting, because like we see, Devils do well in second round, but all of this trades with picks are doing mostly nothing for the big picture. I hope if he will decide to make s trade with picks but for longer term younger player.
 
The Athletic just released a mock draft:

I have a few disagreements, of course. My mock is leaning more like this:

1 NYI LD Schaefer
2 SJ C/W Misa
3 CHI C Frondell
4 UTA C Desnoyers
5 NSH C/W Hagens
6 PHI LW Martone
7 BOS C McQueen
8 SEA LD Smith
9 BUF RD Mrtka
10 ANH C O'Brien
11 PIT LW Lakovic
12 NYR LW Eklund
13 DET LD Aitcheson
14 CLB C Martin
15 VAN LW Bear
 
pretty intriguing news here, draft eligible mason west has committed to hockey ahead of the combine (over playing football)

big, toolsy, competitive, super athletic, thinks the game well (played as a QB for what its worth), has some impressive playmaking flashes. but very raw. stickhandling not there, shot is very inconsistent, physical/positional games both a work in progress (though he shows some decent instincts at times). was more good than great in the couple high school games i saw on youtube, but his USHL showing was much better

i think when you look at the baseline toolkit, how young he is for the class, and how he'll no longer be splitting time between hockey and football, theres the potential for some significant growth down the line. consensus ranking isnt exactly close to it right now, but to me hes a darkhorse 1st rounder

 
While lurking the Rangers forum I read about Haoxi "Simon" Wang. He profiles like a Chinese Silayev. Now I can't escape envisioning that Fitz will pick him with one of the two second-round picks.

It would be a hell of a marketing coup for the Devils if he makes it here and pans out, though.
 
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While lurking the Rangers forum I read about Haoxi "Simon" Wang. He profiles like a Chinese Silayev. Now I can't escape envisioning that Fitz will pick him with one of the two second-round picks.

It would be a hell of a marketing coup for the Devils if he makes it here and pans out, though.
We must get Bahl back so I can be WangBahl
 
While lurking the Rangers forum I read about Haoxi "Simon" Wang. He profiles like a Chinese Silayev. Now I can't escape envisioning that Fitz will pick him with one of the two second-round picks.

It would be a hell of a marketing coup for the Devils if he makes it here and pans out, though.
He seems very thoughtful and has plenty of projectable tools. He's going to BU to play with Big Mike. NJ could do worse with a late second round pick.
 
Seems like more momentum towards Connor Bedard shifting to wing a la Steven Stamkos. I had Porter Martone for the Blackhawks pick but perhaps another center could make sense.

I'd be a little surprised if Brady Martin made it past Pittsburgh. The Sault Ste. Marie connection with Kyle Dubas might be too strong.
Yeah, I think Chicago wants a center, and Frondell makes sense to them.

I don't have much confidence in Dubas' GM capabilities, but Brady Martin certainly would be a great add in Pittsburgh.
 
Yeah, I think Chicago wants a center, and Frondell makes sense to them.

I don't have much confidence in Dubas' GM capabilities, but Brady Martin certainly would be a great add in Pittsburgh.

I was thinking Chicago was 'set' at center with Bedard-Boisvert-Moore but Frondell maybe could shift to wing as well.

Dubas lured over Wes Clark from Toronto prior to this season. Clark had been their director of amateur scouting and seemed focused on the OHL. Learning now that Clark had some overlap with Dubas when both were working for the Soo Greyhounds. Would have to think both of them would have some ties with the team even after all these years.

If they took Martin (current Greyhound), it would remind me a bit of San Jose and Logan Couture. Former Sharks GM Doug Wilson was an alum of the Ottawa 67's and I don't think it was a coincidence that the Sharks would end up with a lot of Ottawa guys.

Going into the 2007 Draft, Florida was doing a lot of background work on Couture to the point where most people with the Soo assumed Florida would take him at #10. That info eventually made its way to Wilson. Sharks started that day by acquiring #13 then traded up to #9 to leapfrog Florida to take Couture.
 
I was thinking Chicago was 'set' at center with Bedard-Boisvert-Moore but Frondell maybe could shift to wing as well.

Dubas lured over Wes Clark from Toronto prior to this season. Clark had been their director of amateur scouting and seemed focused on the OHL. Learning now that Clark had some overlap with Dubas when both were working for the Soo Greyhounds. Would have to think both of them would have some ties with the team even after all these years.

If they took Martin (current Greyhound), it would remind me a bit of San Jose and Logan Couture. Former Sharks GM Doug Wilson was an alum of the Ottawa 67's and I don't think it was a coincidence that the Sharks would end up with a lot of Ottawa guys.

Going into the 2007 Draft, Florida was doing a lot of background work on Couture to the point where most people with the Soo assumed Florida would take him at #10. That info eventually made its way to Wilson. Sharks started that day by acquiring #13 then traded up to #9 to leapfrog Florida to take Couture.
If I'm Chicago, I'm absolutely drafting Hagens. To me, the one question with him is whether he's a center or a LW, but either way you can pair his tremendous combination of speed, passing vision and zone entry skill with Bedard for a lights-out combination. You'd probably want a big, power F to skate alongside them for a potentially dynamic line.
 
RW/C Benjamin Kindel, Calgary WHL
The 2025 draft is shaping up to be one of the weirdest classes I've ever seen, both in its make-up and general public assessment. Often criticized for both a lack of elite talent outside of the top handful of picks and a lack of depth afterwards, one would think any player with potential top-line, scoring-star talent at the NHL level would get even greater attention than in most years. For some reason which is impossible to define, multiple players who fit this description have been unduly been given lukewarm hype by the hockey draft community. Headlining this list is Benjamin Kindel.

The more I watch Kindel, the more I realize he is absolutely worth a pick as high as the top 7 overall. He's just a brilliant hockey player and lacks any discernible flaw. His finest attributes are his hockey IQ, which is elite for this or any draft, and his compete level, which is undeniable in a player who elevates his entire team every time he steps on the ice in any situation. Now, with many players for whom "character and smarts" are their standout attributes, there's usually some flaw which causes the draft community to overlook them -- whether it be subpar stats, or subpar skating, or subpar 200-foot play, or diminutive size.

Kindel scored the lights out, with a 35g-64a-99p line in the WHL. He's an excellent skater who combines more excellent marks across the board in passing vision, shooting and puck handling. He's a two-way forward who shines in virtually any situation. Though a wiry 5'10-175, he's not tiny by any degree of the imagination. So, why is his consensus ranking generally in the #20-#25 range?

The answer is: I have no answer. Kindel might just be the best outlet passer in the draft -- he's a courageous and smart puck-distributor who immediately sees passes and lanes and routes several players ranked top 10 in the 2025 class can only dream of. His intangibles and ability to defend give him a high floor of at least an NHL 3rd liner. Though he's a pass-first mentality guy, he'll take it to the net himself and beat goalies with a litany of moves and release angles. This kid is a stud. We're talking steal of the draft kind of stuff if he falls anywhere near his consensus ranking.

I think of one play I saw him make where he was fighting two much larger defenders in the crease to deflect a shot. The rebound ricocheted into the air, and his stick was being tied up by a defender. So, Kindel simply kneed the puck up into the air in front of him soccer-style, then freed his stick and swatted it out of the air top shelf. That's an elite move, being unable to score in the fraction of the moment he needed to score, but instead having the presence of mind to delay the moment. That's elite hockey IQ and creativity.

Benjamin Kindel is a name to keep your eye on for the 2025 draft, and then a player to keep your eye on for many, many years afterwards. It's a complicated draft, but these facts are simple.
 
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