Shakir ONeal
Jimmy Hughes
- Sep 21, 2017
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I’m convinced we would have at least another cup since 03 with you gentlemen drafting at the helm of the Devils
@StevenToddIves I didn’t love the pick at the time (would have preferred Michael Brandsegg-Nygard, Dickinson or Buium) I quickly changed my mind though. What a unicorn!! I’m really excited about this kid’s future. I’m curious how you feel about the aforementioned players one year later. Where do you think they would go in a redraft?Well, this is why Silayev was such a freak. Not many guys 6'5 and over can honestly be described as phenomenal skaters. McQueen is not *slow* by any means. He just has a lot of technicalities to work on in his skating approach. Again, I like him, just not as high as he'll be drafted.
A quick redraft of 2024 at the top, for me, would go like this:@StevenToddIves I didn’t love the pick at the time (would have preferred Michael Brandsegg-Nygard, Dickinson or Buium) I quickly changed my mind though. What a unicorn!! I’m really excited about this kid’s future. I’m curious how you feel about the aforementioned players one year later. Where do you think they would go in a redraft?
How big is the gap between Buium to Dickinson to Silayev at this point? I know Buium especially is just a completely different player stylistically than Sliayev.A quick redraft of 2024 at the top, for me, would go like this:
1 C Celebrini
2 W Demidov
3 LD Buium
4 LD Dickinson
5 LD Silayev
6 RD Parekh
7 W Catton
It's important to state that Lindstrom and Iginila drop a bit more for injury reasons than anything else, and either could end up being top 5 players in the class. I'm still very skeptical of Sennecke at #3, I think he's an NHLer in all likelihood, but I don't see him scoring as much at the highest levels as Catton or Hage. Speaking of Hage, I'd say my biggest risers of the class are him and Solberg, either of whom would threaten for the top 10 in a re-draft. Lastly, we should touch on Parekh who had an absolutely extraordinary draft+1 season in the Canadian Junior circuit. He still has challenges to face in shoring up his 200-foot game, but he left no doubt he can become an elite offensive defenseman at the highest levels.
Lindstrom has incredible potential which -- he's still a teenager -- has not diminished. But the inherent problem with doing a "re-draft" less than a year later is you're forced to plot your lines on the development arc. Lindstrom could easily wind up being one of the top 3 or 4 players from the 2024 draft, he just has a long way to go.How big is the gap between Buium to Dickinson to Silayev at this point? I know Buium especially is just a completely different player stylistically than Sliayev.
I was stunned Anaheim took Sennecke at 3OA. I remember you pumping the tires of both Hage and Solberg so I’m not surprised their arrow is pointing up. You’re usually right. lol….
The concern about Lindstrom was his track record of being injury prone. It stinks that black cloud continues to follow the kid. Hopefully he doesn’t wind up like Nolan Patrick- tons of promise and potential but completely derailed by not staying healthy.
Was just looking up some of last years guys and saw Parekh's stat line and thought, yeah that's really good....... but then noticed he's a d-man. Are there any recent comparable point production seasons from d-men in the CHL?A quick redraft of 2024 at the top, for me, would go like this:
1 C Celebrini
2 W Demidov
3 LD Buium
4 LD Dickinson
5 LD Silayev
6 RD Parekh
7 W Catton
It's important to state that Lindstrom and Iginila drop a bit more for injury reasons than anything else, and either could end up being top 5 players in the class. I'm still very skeptical of Sennecke at #3, I think he's an NHLer in all likelihood, but I don't see him scoring as much at the highest levels as Catton or Hage. Speaking of Hage, I'd say my biggest risers of the class are him and Solberg, either of whom would threaten for the top 10 in a re-draft. Lastly, we should touch on Parekh who had an absolutely extraordinary draft+1 season in the Canadian Junior circuit. He still has challenges to face in shoring up his 200-foot game, but he left no doubt he can become an elite offensive defenseman at the highest levels.
Sennecke did have a big +1 season. Led his team in goals and points. Over 1.5 ppg. Then had a big playoffs, helping lead his team to the OHL championship round. His draft status may have been bumped up due to a strong playoffs last year, and he had an even stronger one this year. His arrow is definitely point up as well.How big is the gap between Buium to Dickinson to Silayev at this point? I know Buium especially is just a completely different player stylistically than Sliayev.
I was stunned Anaheim took Sennecke at 3OA. I remember you pumping the tires of both Hage and Solberg so I’m not surprised their arrow is pointing up. You’re usually right. lol….
The concern about Lindstrom was his track record of being injury prone. It stinks that black cloud continues to follow the kid. Hopefully he doesn’t wind up like Nolan Patrick- tons of promise and potential but completely derailed by not staying healthy.
Parekh is showing every sign of being an elite offensive defenseman, but the question is whether he'll be able to improve his 200-foot game to develop into at least an average defender at the NHL level. Right now, he's a bit of a liability back there and his matchups need to be closely monitored. But his offensive game is no joke -- Parekh's scoring upside is huge.Was just looking up some of last years guys and saw Parekh's stat line and thought, yeah that's really good....... but then noticed he's a d-man. Are there any recent comparable point production seasons from d-men in the CHL?
Also noticed his team mate Misa who is draft eligible this year, with a near gpg season and over 2 ppg. Not quite a McDavid like season, but close. Kind of weak showing in the playoffs though. I assume he's at least top 10 this year?
Sennecke was certainly very good in his draft+1. In 56 games, he put up a line of 36g-50a-86p.Sennecke did have a big +1 season. Led his team in goals and points. Over 1.5 ppg. Then had a big playoffs, helping lead his team to the OHL championship round. His draft status may have been bumped up due to a strong playoffs last year, and he had an even stronger one this year. His arrow is definitely point up as well.
This kind of reminds me of Attu Raty. He ways looked at as a top prospect to start the year but fell to the second round. McQueen being 6’5 probably keeps him in the mid 1st tho.As usual, I agree with you. I'm just being very careful not to obfuscate the line between whether I like McQueen as a player and where I would draft him were I an NHL decision-maker. Because I think he's a character kid with excellent potential. But the potential isn't top 5 pick-type for the reasons you just described in any draft, and the risk with McQueen is too significant to look over because of the 6'5 frame and high-end goal-scoring ability.
Would I draft McQueen? Yes, but there just isn't a conceivable scenario where an NHL GM won't take him in the top 10 this year and I see him as a later-end 1st round pick, probably in the 20-25 range. But I would not be dismayed if he proved me wrong 10 years down the line -- quite the opposite. He just has a long way to go to be a top 6 NHL C and the biggest worry might be an ability to stay healthy enough to achieve this.
McQueen could go as high as the top 5 and I don't see him falling out of the top 10 or, at the very latest, 12. The majority of NHL GMs go absolutely haywire over big centers, and when you factor in McQueen's high-end scoring ability? Well, someone's going to pull the trigger early.This kind of reminds me of Attu Raty. He ways looked at as a top prospect to start the year but fell to the second round. McQueen being 6’5 probably keeps him in the mid 1st tho.
Still he led his team in goals and points, with very nice yoy improvement, and then had a big playoffs leading his team on a deep run.Sennecke was certainly very good in his draft+1. In 56 games, he put up a line of 36g-50a-86p.
But let's compare that to some other CHL players taken later in the 2024 draft.
Berkley Catton --57 games: 38g-71a-109p.
Sam Dickinson (a defenseman!) -- 55 games: 29g-62a-91p
Liam Greentree -- 64 games: 49g-70a-119p
Igor Chernyshov -- 23 games -- 19g-36a-55p
Kevin He (4th round) -- 62 games: 36g-39a-75p
Now, let's add in some CHL Fs eligible for the 2025 draft likely to be taken outside the top 3 picks:
Carter Bear -- 56 games: 40g-42a-82p
Caleb Desnoyers -- 56 games: 35g-49a-84p
Jake O'Brien -- 66 games: 32g-66a-98p
Cameron Schmidt -- 61 games: 40g-38a-78p
Brady Martin -- 57 games: 33g-39a-72p
Benjamin Kindel -- 65 games: 35g-64a-99p
Now, all of these point totals aside from Catton and Greentree, who were scoring at a far higher rate, are in the ballpark with Sennecke. Included are defensemen (Dickinson), players who are known for excellent two-way play which is Sennecke's weakness (He, Chernyshov), and players who are far younger.
None of this is to say Sennecke will not be a good NHLer. I think he will indeed succeed in the pros. My only point is that I wouldn't consider him one of the better players on the above lists, and thus he was a bit of a reach at #3 overall, especially considering his complete game needs refining and his strong point is simply scoring and offense.
Like I said last year and will stick to, Sennecke is a very good prospect. But at #3 overall, that was a huge reach. He's not in the same stratosphere as Demidov, and he's not close to Catton. I would still rank him behind significantly lesser-regarded Fs like Hage and Chernyshov. But again, that's just me.Still he led his team in goals and points, with very nice yoy improvement, and then had a big playoffs leading his team on a deep run.
I can't say I knew him at all before looking him up, but it looks like he had a big year, especially if we don't ignore his playoffs.