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solberg hatty and a monster physical/minute munching game to force OT against the USA @StevenToddIves @Guadana solid season in sweden and another impressive international showing to end the year. obviously some risk at the time, but still feeling good about ranking him top 10 last year
I mean, let's face it guys... we're really good at this haha. I think we were talking about Solberg as a 1st round pick when everyone else -- even the big-name guys -- all had him as like a 3rd rounder.

Kudos to you two -- @Guadana and @evnted -- every year you find diamonds in the rough.

People don't realize how tough it is to project prospects, especially the lesser-known ones. I look pretty good for touting Jesper Bratt in 2016 as our steal of the draft. But I was similarly high the very next draft of 2017 with Aarne Talvitie. Every win comes with a loss, and you need to constantly stick your neck out.

But yes, I think we are looking very, very good with Stian Solberg. Kid can play.
 
I mean, let's face it guys... we're really good at this haha. I think we were talking about Solberg as a 1st round pick when everyone else -- even the big-name guys -- all had him as like a 3rd rounder.

Kudos to you two -- @Guadana and @evnted -- every year you find diamonds in the rough.

People don't realize how tough it is to project prospects, especially the lesser-known ones. I look pretty good for touting Jesper Bratt in 2016 as our steal of the draft. But I was similarly high the very next draft of 2017 with Aarne Talvitie. Every win comes with a loss, and you need to constantly stick your neck out.

But yes, I think we are looking very, very good with Stian Solberg. Kid can play.
think its hard to say talvitie was truly a loss for you, early trends were great and he was ultimately never the same player after that wjc injury. hope tom finally gives us more of these long range project picks again lol
 
think its hard to say talvitie was truly a loss for you, early trends were great and he was ultimately never the same player after that wjc injury. hope tom finally gives us more of these long range project picks again lol
I agree. I watched a fair amount of Talvitie after he was drafted. He looked good at the WJSS right after the draft. He was clearly able to play with the best players in his age cohort. If he stays healthy I think he would have been a player. Stylistically he reminded me a bit of Palat. Not a world beater but certainly an NHL player in his prime.
 
think its hard to say talvitie was truly a loss for you, early trends were great and he was ultimately never the same player after that wjc injury. hope tom finally gives us more of these long range project picks again lol
2017 was a rough year for me. I also missed on Jason Robertson and many of my sleepers did not pan out -- Heponiemi, Lipanov, Samorukov.

I think my two big wins that year were Dylan Samberg and my hot take that Lias Andersson was the worst top 7 pick of the decade.
 
I agree. I watched a fair amount of Talvitie after he was drafted. He looked good at the WJSS right after the draft. He was clearly able to play with the best players in his age cohort. If he stays healthy I think he would have been a player. Stylistically he reminded me a bit of Palat. Not a world beater but certainly an NHL player in his prime.
Its annoying and sad. Devils fans could be not happy with outcome, fans of other teams may get upset, imagine being that player who never come to the level he played before some injury, dont even talk about being better. We saw it few time. Its just very depressing from the player point of view, they are putting so much effort, time, they reject many opportunities, options, and miss important events in their lives. I talked to a hockey father not so long ago. He took a very long time to decide where to give his child to - a coach with competition, tough training, but great risk to his knees, or to develop his son in a calm rhythm in his city. But without the regular opportunity to interact with the best players of their age. Only in tournaments. He preferred to keep his son's knees in health.
 
This is clearly not what the Devils are doing. They drafted Holtz over Rossi and Jarvis... Salminen over Svozil, Blake, Savage and Duke... Pikkarainen and Traff over Kevin He.

The Devils are leaving as much character and work ethic on the table as they are leaving skill on the table.

The Devils have many problems in their recent draft history, but this is not one of them. The reason I mention it is because this is a gross misdiagnosis -- the Devils would not be in this situation if they were drafting the highest character and work ethic players.
They didn’t want to draft Rossi and Lundell I think. It’s more about Quinn vs Jarvis vs Holtz. They picked the worst player. It was a huge mistake twice. It was a wrong strategy - outside Nico and Jack they had only Zacha. And he was a very slow starter in his career, looked like a not so good player for center role. They should pick for potential or at least pick center.
Second mistake was a Holtz pick. Even with his good passing game he was one trick pony and I always said again and again that it is too early to wait more and he is not the best Devils prospect. I ranked Mercer and after Gritsyuk over him all that time. Both Jarvis and Quinn were better all around players with better skating, may be nit so great shooters in the moment but with better skills set for the role in the NHL.
I was very happy to not see how Devils picking Eiserman. I wish him all the best but I believe you will always have better player in top-15.
 
I would like some explanation as to what qualifies as terrible? Outcome? Process?

What is terrible about last year's draft?

Holtz
Mercer
Pytlik
Schlaine
Baumgartner
Stillman
Bardakov
Hauser
Filmon
Hameenaho
Squires
Brown
Pikkarainen
Traff
Graham
Melovsky

This is all of Fitz's forwards drafted over his 5 years here. 1 guy is on the NHL team, 2 guys finished the season in the AHL and put up a total of 4 points combined. He's already dumped Traff and Graham from last year's draft as worthless throw-ins on trades.

They don't have any depth at the NHL level OR the AHL level. This list is exactly why we have nothing.
 
Its annoying and sad. Devils fans could be not happy with outcome, fans of other teams may get upset, imagine being that player who never come to the level he played before some injury, dont even talk about being better. We saw it few time. Its just very depressing from the player point of view, they are putting so much effort, time, they reject many opportunities, options, and miss important events in their lives. I talked to a hockey father not so long ago. He took a very long time to decide where to give his child to - a coach with competition, tough training, but great risk to his knees, or to develop his son in a calm rhythm in his city. But without the regular opportunity to interact with the best players of their age. Only in tournaments. He preferred to keep his son's knees in health.

Being a parent of a young promising athlete is a big responsibility. Some parents can’t handle it. I saw several kids with futures in different sports and some folks understood how to navigate it while some were impossible and paranoid.
 
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Holtz
Mercer
Pytlik
Schlaine
Baumgartner
Stillman
Bardakov
Hauser
Filmon
Hameenaho
Squires
Brown
Pikkarainen
Traff
Graham
Melovsky

This is all of Fitz's forwards drafted over his 5 years here. 1 guy is on the NHL team, 2 guys finished the season in the AHL and put up a total of 4 points combined. He's already dumped Traff and Graham from last year's draft as worthless throw-ins on trades.

They don't have any depth at the NHL level OR the AHL level. This list is exactly why we have nothing.
So your measurement of terrible drafting is on forward drafting?

What about defence and goalies?

I'm not saying the devil's have been stellar at drafting, but terrible?
 
Holtz
Mercer
Pytlik
Schlaine
Baumgartner
Stillman
Bardakov
Hauser
Filmon
Hameenaho
Squires
Brown
Pikkarainen
Traff
Graham
Melovsky

This is all of Fitz's forwards drafted over his 5 years here. 1 guy is on the NHL team, 2 guys finished the season in the AHL and put up a total of 4 points combined. He's already dumped Traff and Graham from last year's draft as worthless throw-ins on trades.

They don't have any depth at the NHL level OR the AHL level. This list is exactly why we have nothing.
That’s an odd way to put it. Cam Squires had 4 points in 3 AHL games after a decent season.

Lenni had about as good of a year as we could’ve hoped from him. Fitz has not done well drafting forwards and hasn’t drafted enough centers, but it’s a bit misleading to ignore that most of our high value picks have been on D. Those top picks are usually the ones that do anything a couple years after being picked.
 
That’s an odd way to put it. Cam Squires had 4 points in 3 AHL games after a decent season.

Lenni had about as good of a year as we could’ve hoped from him. Fitz has not done well drafting forwards and hasn’t drafted enough centers, but it’s a bit misleading to ignore that most of our high value picks have been on D. Those top picks are usually the ones that do anything a couple years after being picked.

I put it that way because it directly effected the team this year and was the single biggest cause of the poor play to finish the season. It seems to be a problem for next year also because everyone here is looking to bring in expensive free agents to fill the voids that typically get plugged in with cheap prospects.
Squires and Lenni weren't eligible to be brought up to the NHL squad last year so they were not options.

Look at the final draft from Shero. He had Clarke and Thompson as later round draft picks that plugged in as depth when they were needed. I know you're going to say they were bad, but at least they were available. The team ran a 13th forward energy winger as their 4th line center and plugged in a 3rd line AHL center as an injury replacement because there was literally nobody else available. That one draft had more useful later round forward picks than all 5 of Fitz's drafts combined.
 
I put it that way because it directly effected the team this year and was the single biggest cause of the poor play to finish the season. It seems to be a problem for next year also because everyone here is looking to bring in expensive free agents to fill the voids that typically get plugged in with cheap prospects.
Squires and Lenni weren't eligible to be brought up to the NHL squad last year so they were not options.

Look at the final draft from Shero. He had Clarke and Thompson as later round draft picks that plugged in as depth when they were needed. I know you're going to say they were bad, but at least they were available. The team ran a 13th forward energy winger as their 4th line center and plugged in a 3rd line AHL center as an injury replacement because there was literally nobody else available. That one draft had more useful later round forward picks than all 5 of Fitz's drafts combined.
I mean I kindve see your point, and I agree that they need to take high skill swings later rounds, but you're comparing 2 forwards drafted in 2019 who were absolutely nothing's to drafts where most late round picks are defenceman.

Stillman and Salminen are notable whiffs.

But no need to detail the thread anymore, just thought terrible was an extreme take.
 
2025 Draft Profile:

C Roger McQueen, Brandon WHL

There's been a whole lot of smoke that McQueen can sneak into the top 5 of the 2025 NHL. After all, he's possessing myriad elements which make NHL front offices drool: he's a 6'5 center with some speed who can dangle, play the physical game, and score goals with laser-like precision. And although it's tough to deny there is very notable upside here, we need to take into account the golden rule: where would he be in the draft rankings if he were not huge, but rather average sized?

In the case of McQueen, it's tough to guarantee he'd even be a first round pick, even in a tepid 2025 draft class. This is not meant to disparage him, there is certainly potential for him to be a productive player with a productive NHL career. So, let's break down the good and bad:

McQueen is not a *slow* skater, as some critics have pointed out. In fact, with his huge strides and powerful legs, he is actually what we can call a moderately fast straight-line skater. The problem with his skating is actually his edge work -- McQueen struggles with stops and starts and takes seemingly forever to turn. Unless this improves, he will have trouble keeping pace with the NHL game.

His physicality is, again, both good and not-so-good. I'd call it "more ornamental than functional". This is to say, he is not a player to disrupt the dirty areas of the ice like the crease and the slot, like a Tkachuk brother would. It's more aggressive and meant to intimidate the opposition. He likes to win puck battles with authority and usually does, and he likes to let the opposition know he's bigger and stronger and willing to throw his strength around. It's tough not to like his team-ethic and willingness to stand up for teammates.

McQueen's best asset is his combination of puck skills and shooting. This kid can downright dangle, and his quick hands are expert at using his tremendous wingspan to change the angle and set up a lethal shot. His shot is hard, but not an absolute cannon-blast like a player I've seen him compared to in Tage Thompson. The finest attribute is its accuracy -- McQueen only needs a split second to pick a corner and absolutely wire the puck there. This will translate at any level.

However, this is somewhat mitigated by his *meh* passing vision and transition game. Neither are notable for better or worse, and he shows no evidence of being an offensive play-driver at the highest levels. McQueen's ideal role might be as a finisher on a line with a pair of speedy playmakers.

McQueen's biggest concern is the injuries -- no fault of his own but spinal injuries are always a concern, as they are potentially both recurring and debilitating. To me, this is the primary concern on a list of several which would have a prudent GM reluctant to pull the trigger on drafting him anywhere in the top 10. However, knowing the NHL front offices from years of studying them, it's safe to say the googly eyes these people get at a 6'5 center who can skate pretty well and shoot the lights out will see him drafted pretty early.

To conclude, Roger McQueen is certainly a player of significant potential. But to me, he's a guy I would envision as a 3rd line center on a winning team, maybe 2nd line if he has the right line mates. Combined with the injury risk, I'd have to say that as much as I like him and I'm rooting for him, I'm not sure I'd take him in the top 20, much less the top 10.
 
2025 Draft Profile:

C Roger McQueen, Brandon WHL

There's been a whole lot of smoke that McQueen can sneak into the top 5 of the 2025 NHL. After all, he's possessing myriad elements which make NHL front offices drool: he's a 6'5 center with some speed who can dangle, play the physical game, and score goals with laser-like precision. And although it's tough to deny there is very notable upside here, we need to take into account the golden rule: where would he be in the draft rankings if he were not huge, but rather average sized?

In the case of McQueen, it's tough to guarantee he'd even be a first round pick, even in a tepid 2025 draft class. This is not meant to disparage him, there is certainly potential for him to be a productive player with a productive NHL career. So, let's break down the good and bad:

McQueen is not a *slow* skater, as some critics have pointed out. In fact, with his huge strides and powerful legs, he is actually what we can call a moderately fast straight-line skater. The problem with his skating is actually his edge work -- McQueen struggles with stops and starts and takes seemingly forever to turn. Unless this improves, he will have trouble keeping pace with the NHL game.

His physicality is, again, both good and not-so-good. I'd call it "more ornamental than functional". This is to say, he is not a player to disrupt the dirty areas of the ice like the crease and the slot, like a Tkachuk brother would. It's more aggressive and meant to intimidate the opposition. He likes to win puck battles with authority and usually does, and he likes to let the opposition know he's bigger and stronger and willing to throw his strength around. It's tough not to like his team-ethic and willingness to stand up for teammates.

McQueen's best asset is his combination of puck skills and shooting. This kid can downright dangle, and his quick hands are expert at using his tremendous wingspan to change the angle and set up a lethal shot. His shot is hard, but not an absolute cannon-blast like a player I've seen him compared to in Tage Thompson. The finest attribute is its accuracy -- McQueen only needs a split second to pick a corner and absolutely wire the puck there. This will translate at any level.

However, this is somewhat mitigated by his *meh* passing vision and transition game. Neither are notable for better or worse, and he shows no evidence of being an offensive play-driver at the highest levels. McQueen's ideal role might be as a finisher on a line with a pair of speedy playmakers.

McQueen's biggest concern is the injuries -- no fault of his own but spinal injuries are always a concern, as they are potentially both recurring and debilitating. To me, this is the primary concern on a list of several which would have a prudent GM reluctant to pull the trigger on drafting him anywhere in the top 10. However, knowing the NHL front offices from years of studying them, it's safe to say the googly eyes these people get at a 6'5 center who can skate pretty well and shoot the lights out will see him drafted pretty early.

To conclude, Roger McQueen is certainly a player of significant potential. But to me, he's a guy I would envision as a 3rd line center on a winning team, maybe 2nd line if he has the right line mates. Combined with the injury risk, I'd have to say that as much as I like him and I'm rooting for him, I'm not sure I'd take him in the top 20, much less the top 10.
If you start a smear campaign maybe he falls to the middle of the second round.
 
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2025 Draft Profile:

C Roger McQueen, Brandon WHL

There's been a whole lot of smoke that McQueen can sneak into the top 5 of the 2025 NHL. After all, he's possessing myriad elements which make NHL front offices drool: he's a 6'5 center with some speed who can dangle, play the physical game, and score goals with laser-like precision. And although it's tough to deny there is very notable upside here, we need to take into account the golden rule: where would he be in the draft rankings if he were not huge, but rather average sized?

In the case of McQueen, it's tough to guarantee he'd even be a first round pick, even in a tepid 2025 draft class. This is not meant to disparage him, there is certainly potential for him to be a productive player with a productive NHL career. So, let's break down the good and bad:

McQueen is not a *slow* skater, as some critics have pointed out. In fact, with his huge strides and powerful legs, he is actually what we can call a moderately fast straight-line skater. The problem with his skating is actually his edge work -- McQueen struggles with stops and starts and takes seemingly forever to turn. Unless this improves, he will have trouble keeping pace with the NHL game.

His physicality is, again, both good and not-so-good. I'd call it "more ornamental than functional". This is to say, he is not a player to disrupt the dirty areas of the ice like the crease and the slot, like a Tkachuk brother would. It's more aggressive and meant to intimidate the opposition. He likes to win puck battles with authority and usually does, and he likes to let the opposition know he's bigger and stronger and willing to throw his strength around. It's tough not to like his team-ethic and willingness to stand up for teammates.

McQueen's best asset is his combination of puck skills and shooting. This kid can downright dangle, and his quick hands are expert at using his tremendous wingspan to change the angle and set up a lethal shot. His shot is hard, but not an absolute cannon-blast like a player I've seen him compared to in Tage Thompson. The finest attribute is its accuracy -- McQueen only needs a split second to pick a corner and absolutely wire the puck there. This will translate at any level.

However, this is somewhat mitigated by his *meh* passing vision and transition game. Neither are notable for better or worse, and he shows no evidence of being an offensive play-driver at the highest levels. McQueen's ideal role might be as a finisher on a line with a pair of speedy playmakers.

McQueen's biggest concern is the injuries -- no fault of his own but spinal injuries are always a concern, as they are potentially both recurring and debilitating. To me, this is the primary concern on a list of several which would have a prudent GM reluctant to pull the trigger on drafting him anywhere in the top 10. However, knowing the NHL front offices from years of studying them, it's safe to say the googly eyes these people get at a 6'5 center who can skate pretty well and shoot the lights out will see him drafted pretty early.

To conclude, Roger McQueen is certainly a player of significant potential. But to me, he's a guy I would envision as a 3rd line center on a winning team, maybe 2nd line if he has the right line mates. Combined with the injury risk, I'd have to say that as much as I like him and I'm rooting for him, I'm not sure I'd take him in the top 20, much less the top 10.
Don't we already have this guy in Nolan Foote?
 
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If you start a smear campaign maybe he falls to the middle of the second round.
Like I said, I like McQueen -- this is not a slight on him. He's a character kid and there's a lot to like. It's just, well... there are a lot of IFs which need to be considered. But I think he goes top 7, maybe even top 5. I can see Utah taking him as early as #4 overall.
 
Like I said, I like McQueen -- this is not a slight on him. He's a character kid and there's a lot to like. It's just, well... there are a lot of IFs which need to be considered. But I think he goes top 7, maybe even top 5. I can see Utah taking him as early as #4 overall.
That's a reach in my book if he has to work on stops and starts just to keep up with the pace of play. Top five or so is pretty high for a project pick even if he is tall.
 
Don't we already have this guy in Nolan Foote?
I wouldn't compare McQueen to Foote. Different position, different play style. McQueen certainly has more upside -- and I'm not just saying now, but also judging both of them as 18 year olds. If McQueen stays healthy and improves his skating -- which will happen naturally with core strength as his 6'5-190 frame rounds out to a likely NHL-size of 6'5-215 or so -- he can definitely be a 30-40 goal guy at the NHL level. But again, there are so many IFs with McQueen, and his 6'5 measurement and scoring ability pretty much guarantee he'll be a top 10 pick.
 
That's a reach in my book if he has to work on stops and starts just to keep up with the pace of play. Top five or so is pretty high for a project pick even if he is tall.
Well, this is why Silayev was such a freak. Not many guys 6'5 and over can honestly be described as phenomenal skaters. McQueen is not *slow* by any means. He just has a lot of technicalities to work on in his skating approach. Again, I like him, just not as high as he'll be drafted.
 
2025 Draft Profile:

C Roger McQueen, Brandon WHL

There's been a whole lot of smoke that McQueen can sneak into the top 5 of the 2025 NHL. After all, he's possessing myriad elements which make NHL front offices drool: he's a 6'5 center with some speed who can dangle, play the physical game, and score goals with laser-like precision. And although it's tough to deny there is very notable upside here, we need to take into account the golden rule: where would he be in the draft rankings if he were not huge, but rather average sized?

In the case of McQueen, it's tough to guarantee he'd even be a first round pick, even in a tepid 2025 draft class. This is not meant to disparage him, there is certainly potential for him to be a productive player with a productive NHL career. So, let's break down the good and bad:

McQueen is not a *slow* skater, as some critics have pointed out. In fact, with his huge strides and powerful legs, he is actually what we can call a moderately fast straight-line skater. The problem with his skating is actually his edge work -- McQueen struggles with stops and starts and takes seemingly forever to turn. Unless this improves, he will have trouble keeping pace with the NHL game.

His physicality is, again, both good and not-so-good. I'd call it "more ornamental than functional". This is to say, he is not a player to disrupt the dirty areas of the ice like the crease and the slot, like a Tkachuk brother would. It's more aggressive and meant to intimidate the opposition. He likes to win puck battles with authority and usually does, and he likes to let the opposition know he's bigger and stronger and willing to throw his strength around. It's tough not to like his team-ethic and willingness to stand up for teammates.

McQueen's best asset is his combination of puck skills and shooting. This kid can downright dangle, and his quick hands are expert at using his tremendous wingspan to change the angle and set up a lethal shot. His shot is hard, but not an absolute cannon-blast like a player I've seen him compared to in Tage Thompson. The finest attribute is its accuracy -- McQueen only needs a split second to pick a corner and absolutely wire the puck there. This will translate at any level.

However, this is somewhat mitigated by his *meh* passing vision and transition game. Neither are notable for better or worse, and he shows no evidence of being an offensive play-driver at the highest levels. McQueen's ideal role might be as a finisher on a line with a pair of speedy playmakers.

McQueen's biggest concern is the injuries -- no fault of his own but spinal injuries are always a concern, as they are potentially both recurring and debilitating. To me, this is the primary concern on a list of several which would have a prudent GM reluctant to pull the trigger on drafting him anywhere in the top 10. However, knowing the NHL front offices from years of studying them, it's safe to say the googly eyes these people get at a 6'5 center who can skate pretty well and shoot the lights out will see him drafted pretty early.

To conclude, Roger McQueen is certainly a player of significant potential. But to me, he's a guy I would envision as a 3rd line center on a winning team, maybe 2nd line if he has the right line mates. Combined with the injury risk, I'd have to say that as much as I like him and I'm rooting for him, I'm not sure I'd take him in the top 20, much less the top 10.
great discussion, and an important one. solid prospect, dont get me wrong, but a very overrated skillset by the masses. hes not a high end playmaker, nor a blazer, nor a two-way force, nor a dominant physical presence like ive seen him described

very hard to take the whole "this player would go top 1/3/5 if healthy" discourse seriously when the consensus top prospect in the class (whos held that position most of the season) has a total of 17 OHL games under his belt. too much day dreaming going on with some of the mcqueen projections. that said, given how barren the class is in terms of top end potential, ill still end up having him top 20
 
great discussion, and an important one. solid prospect, dont get me wrong, but a very overrated skillset by the masses. hes not a high end playmaker, nor a blazer, nor a two-way force, nor a dominant physical presence like ive seen him described

very hard to take the whole "this player would go top 1/3/5 if healthy" discourse seriously when the consensus top prospect in the class (whos held that position most of the season) has a total of 17 OHL games under his belt. too much day dreaming going on with some of the mcqueen projections. that said, given how barren the class is in terms of top end potential, ill still end up having him top 20
As usual, I agree with you. I'm just being very careful not to obfuscate the line between whether I like McQueen as a player and where I would draft him were I an NHL decision-maker. Because I think he's a character kid with excellent potential. But the potential isn't top 5 pick-type for the reasons you just described in any draft, and the risk with McQueen is too significant to look over because of the 6'5 frame and high-end goal-scoring ability.

Would I draft McQueen? Yes, but there just isn't a conceivable scenario where an NHL GM won't take him in the top 10 this year and I see him as a later-end 1st round pick, probably in the 20-25 range. But I would not be dismayed if he proved me wrong 10 years down the line -- quite the opposite. He just has a long way to go to be a top 6 NHL C and the biggest worry might be an ability to stay healthy enough to achieve this.
 
As usual, I agree with you. I'm just being very careful not to obfuscate the line between whether I like McQueen as a player and where I would draft him were I an NHL decision-maker. Because I think he's a character kid with excellent potential. But the potential isn't top 5 pick-type for the reasons you just described in any draft, and the risk with McQueen is too significant to look over because of the 6'5 frame and high-end goal-scoring ability.

Would I draft McQueen? Yes, but there just isn't a conceivable scenario where an NHL GM won't take him in the top 10 this year and I see him as a later-end 1st round pick, probably in the 20-25 range. But I would not be dismayed if he proved me wrong 10 years down the line -- quite the opposite. He just has a long way to go to be a top 6 NHL C and the biggest worry might be an ability to stay healthy enough to achieve this.

If you can see these issues so can any number of NHL scouts. So why does a team pick him from 4-10? How do all the question marks get hand waved away?
 
If you can see these issues so can any number of NHL scouts. So why does a team pick him from 4-10? How do all the question marks get hand waved away?
Hockey scouts and GMs around a 6'5 center with high end goalscoring ability behave similarly to a bunch of white-tip sharks around a bleeding tuna fish.
 

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