Speculation: 2024-25 Coaching/Management/Ownership

[Ducks DVM]

I said I wouldn’t be surprised if the team went 2-8-2 starting with Boston, back when people were talking playoffs.

3-9 is looking to be likely.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I said I wouldn’t be surprised if the team went 2-8-2 starting with Boston, back when people were talking playoffs.

3-9 is looking to be likely.

I came to that 2-8-2 possibility conclusion too.

2-8-2 = 6 points
3-9-0 = 6 points

Potaytoe, potahtoe

 

[70sSanO]

My goal for the season was to finish ahead of Nashville. It looks as if that will happen.

My hope for the remaining games is that everyone gets to the off season healthy.

My biggest wish is for Cronin and his staff to go on a scouting exhibition in Outer Siberia.

John

 

[anezthes]

I said I wouldn’t be surprised if the team went 2-8-2 starting with Boston, back when people were talking playoffs.

3-9 is looking to be likely.

I had us going 12-0-0. Bummer.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

My goal for the season was to finish ahead of Nashville. It looks as if that will happen.

My hope for the remaining games is that everyone gets to the off season healthy.

My biggest wish is for Cronin and his staff to go on a scouting exhibition in Outer Siberia.

John

Nashville was pretty generous to you there.

 

[Son of Gib]

Cronin's ineptitude has turned into a cancer. The clues were there before, but it's just so obvious now.

 

[70sSanO]

Nashville was pretty generous to you there.

It didn’t start off as a season goal.

I hate the Preds. After last Summer, it looked like they might be able to make a push for the cup.

As the season went on and their almost $30m in signings started to look like an anchor, it became my goal.

Admittedly Nashville did more, technically less, to reach that reality, it is still my bright spot for the season.

Hopefully it will be the gift that keeps on giving.

John

 

[ShadowDuck]

Just a fun graph showing how awesome this season was

 

[KelVarnsen]

So if I’m understanding that graph correctly, Ducks were out chanced and out scored for most of the year meaning the goalies completely bailed the team out and kept the team from being right at the bottom of the league?

 

[HanSolo]

So if I’m understanding that graph correctly, Ducks were out chanced and out scored for most of the year meaning the goalies completely bailed the team out and kept the team from being right at the bottom of the league?

I think you have go go broader for that extrapolation but basically. Yeah. We hung in there with San Jose and Chicago all year long while outperforming them in the standings.

The better data to prove that point is we are number 1 in the league in expected goals against per 60 (2.93) while we are second best in goals against above expected (basically team aggregate for goals saved above expected) with -29.57. Winnipeg, with Hellebyuck likely to win the Vezina has the best rating with -33.63.

 

[dracom]

I think you have go go broader for that extrapolation but basically. Yeah. We hung in there with San Jose and Chicago all year long while outperforming them in the standings.

The better data to prove that point is we are number 1 in the league in expected goals against per 60 (2.93) while we are second best in goals against above expected (basically team aggregate for goals saved above expected) with -29.57. Winnipeg, with Hellebyuck likely to win the Vezina has the best rating with -33.63.

so you're telling me that Cronin's "ignore offense to focus on defense" style is all BS? yet some people still want to give this dude a chance lol

 

[HanSolo]

so you're telling me that Cronin's "ignore offense to focus on defense" style is all BS? yet some people still want to give this dude a chance lol

Yeah the defense focus is a farce. There's coaches out there that I believe would be capable of coaching these guys to at least play passable defense. Being first in the league in expected goals against is pretty strong evidence that Cronin isn't that guy. Maybe it was too soon to say halfway through the season, but we're almost at the end and we're still in the gutter.

 

[Deuce22]

Yeah the defense focus is a farce. There's coaches out there that I believe would be capable of coaching these guys to at least play passable defense. Being first in the league in expected goals against is pretty strong evidence that Cronin isn't that guy. Maybe it was too soon to say halfway through the season, but we're almost at the end and we're still in the gutter.

The brightest minds in the game understand that the best defense is possessing the puck yourself. Duck fancy stats and shots against show that Cronin doesn’t get it.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

The brightest minds in the game understand that the best defense is possessing the puck yourself. Duck fancy stats and shots against show that Cronin doesn’t get it.

PV seems pretty intent on signing a high end UFA but I wonder if we couldn't get the same bang for the buck in terms of standing points by just acquiring a faceoff specialist or two.

edit - and swapping out Clune for an established PP coach.

 

[Unholy]

The brightest minds in the game understand that the best defense is possessing the puck yourself. Duck fancy stats and shots against show that Cronin doesn’t get it.

How the end of season meeting should unfold but I’m scared of him getting another chance

 

[Deuce22]

PV seems pretty intent on signing a high end UFA but I wonder if we couldn't get the same bang for the buck in terms of standing points by just acquiring a faceoff specialist or two.

edit - and swapping out Clune for an established PP coach.

If you believe in the young forwards taking a step forward, I agree with you. PK has been almost as bad as the PP, so I think a faceoff guy/elite PKer might be the ticket.

 

[goonsaredumb]

If you believe in the young forwards taking a step forward, I agree with you. PK has been almost as bad as the PP, so I think a faceoff guy/elite PKer might be the ticket.

I could see Verbeek going after Yanni Gourde, they've got that Tampa connection and Gourde is a solid PKer

 

[zegrassyknoll]

I could see Verbeek going after Yanni Gourde, they've got that Tampa connection and Gourde is a solid PKer

He's also in the age range that Verbeek loves to give 3-4 year contracts to

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Coaching defense? The time minimum was 150 minutes for a pairing from Money Puck. Our pairings populate the highest offenders of Shot Attempt Against per 60 minutes. I wonder who is keeping most of those shots out of our nets?

 

[HanSolo]

Coaching defense? The time minimum was 150 minutes for a pairing from Money Puck. Our pairings populate the highest offenders of Shot Attempt Against per 60 minutes. I wonder who is keeping most of those shots out of our nets?

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Lol Hutson. Lol Thrun. Lol Trouba.

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

"I don't understand why you are so anti-Trouba?"

Me:

Coaching defense? The time minimum was 150 minutes for a pairing from Money Puck. Our pairings populate the highest offenders of Shot Attempt Against per 60 minutes. I wonder who is keeping most of those shots out of our nets?

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I don't care how short-term it is, I might self-immolate if he's extended. Next year should be the last for both him and Gudas on the roster, but if you have to pick one, pick the guy you named the captain who at least can still be effective in sheltered minutes, regardless of age difference.

 

[zegrassyknoll]

Coaching defense? The time minimum was 150 minutes for a pairing from Money Puck. Our pairings populate the highest offenders of Shot Attempt Against per 60 minutes. I wonder who is keeping most of those shots out of our nets?

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when you reverse this list, a pairing with Dobson has the second fewest shot attempts against/60. Smaller sample size but still intriguing - really feel like he could be a target for us

 

[Hockey Duckie]

when you reverse this list, a pairing with Dobson has the second fewest shot attempts against/60. Smaller sample size but still intriguing - really feel like he could be a target for us

Hmmm... Imma dig into it a bit.

I think Pelech's defense and Dobson's Ozone deployment could be the reason for the low shot suppression. Dobson's Ozone Start % is 54.1%, which is a sign of being sheltered. Pelech's OZone Start % is at 47.5%, the opposite of Dobson. Their CF% is interesting: Dobson is at 53.3% and Pelech is at 54.8%. I took a screenshot of NYI's blueline and notice Pelech-Pulock have been paired the most. Pulock's OZone start is 46.3%. We need more Pelech types, we kinda have too many Dobson types (LaCombe, Minty, Zell, and Luneau)

 

[zegrassyknoll]

Hmmm... Imma dig into it a bit.

I think Pelech's defense and Dobson's Ozone deployment could be the reason for the low shot suppression. Dobson's Ozone Start % is 54.1%, which is a sign of being sheltered. Pelech's OZone Start % is at 47.5%, the opposite of Dobson. Their CF% is interesting: Dobson is at 53.3% and Pelech is at 54.8%. I took a screenshot of NYI's blueline and notice Pelech-Pulock have been paired the most. Pulock's OZone start is 46.3%. We need more Pelech types, we kinda have too many Dobson types (LaCombe, Minty, Zell, and Luneau)

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I agree with the general sentiment, but 3 of those 4 players are LD and Luneau may not ever become an NHLer. I think he probably will, but Dobson already is one.

 

[HanSolo]

I agree with the general sentiment, but 3 of those 4 players are LD and Luneau may not ever become an NHLer. I think he probably will, but Dobson already is one.

Be so for real right now. Maybe you can argue he doesn't have a long term place on this team but he absolutely has an NHL future.

Even after a recent skid he still leads the AHL in Pts/g among defensemen who've played more than 30 games with 0.89. Brandt Clarke led last year with 0.92 on a much better Ontario Reign team than this year's Gulls team. For additional reference, Zellweger's rate was 0.84