Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | The Slow Crawl to the Season

[dahrougem2]

Toronto media are talking a lot about that exact tandem as well.

They want Gourde as 3C behind AM34/JT91 and to re-unite the Tanev brothers.

Just thinking about a potential playoff forward roster of

Drouin - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Lehkonen - Mittelstadt - Nichushkin
Colton - Gourde - Tanev
Wood - Kelly - O'Connor

gets me goin'. Then again, we'd probably see 4 of those guys hurt and Givani Smith playing minutes in the 1st round.

 

[Pokecheque]

I honestly have no recollection of that. I was out of the Navy by then, so I didn't miss it because of deployments...I wonder if it was because ESPN was the only one covering hockey and well....so I only got to see those games that were broadcast on ESPN/ESPN2. Which back then... they actually covered the Avs quite a bit becaues of how good they were.

I read there was some incident in practice that nearly led to a brawl between Drury and Foote but take that with a grain of salt—I don’t have anything to confirm that. But also, I do remember how much he absolutely HATED playing wing, but naturally on a team with Sakic/Forsberg/Yelle you’re not going to play too much center unless one of them gets hurt…which of course happened plenty.

Yeah, maybe it’s just me but I was just not his biggest fan, though to be absolutely clear he was an absolute force in the postseason and an elite level player when he was engaged.

Just thinking about a potential playoff forward roster of

Drouin - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Lehkonen - Mittelstadt - Nichushkin
Colton - Gourde - Tanev
Wood - Kelly - O'Connor

gets me goin'. Then again, we'd probably see 4 of those guys hurt and Givani Smith playing minutes in the 1st round.

Gourde might be a little past his prime but he’d be a supreme upgrade over Kelly/Ivan. And with MacKinnon and Mittelstadt the Avs really could use a guy who knows how to win a faceoff.

 

[Foppa2118]

Loved watching him on a line with Svatos

Probably... I have a few games from the 05 season saved on my server still somehow and I watch them every once in a while. So many loveable guys on that roster...

Was that with Turgeon at center? He formed a great duo with Svatos. Pure passer and pure shooter.

Kono as the hard working two way guy would have been the perfect third guy, but I can't remember how often all three played together.

Turg and Svatos clicked right off the bat, but neither could stay healthy unfortunately, especially Turgeon that second year.

 

[BobRossColton]

Could we trade Wood+ for Heineman+Evans

 

[Foppa2118]

I'll never understand the 02 Avs being SO inept offensively. Yes, Forsberg was gone but the roster wasn't a bunch of plugs.

Defense wins championships.

That was the strength of that 01 Cup team, just like it was the strength of the 22 Cup team. The Avs Big 3 could play any way you want in 01, and match up well against any team.

Nobody in that top 6 could be pushed around either, except maybe Skoula, but that had nothing to do with his size. When he was dialed in, he could be hard to play against too.

Bourque - 6'0" 223 lbs
Foote - 6'2" 220 lbs
Blake - 6'4" 220 lbs
Klemm - 6'2" 205 lbs
DeVries - 6'2" 205 lbs
Skoula - 6'3" 226 lbs

 

[shadow1]

Defense wins championships.

That was the strength of that 01 Cup team, just like it was the strength of the 22 Cup team. The Avs Big 3 could play any way you want in 01, and match up well against any team.

Nobody in that top 6 could be pushed around either, except maybe Skoula, but that had nothing to do with his size. When he was dialed in, he could be hard to play against too.

Bourque - 6'0" 223 lbs
Foote - 6'2" 220 lbs
Blake - 6'4" 220 lbs
Klemm - 6'2" 205 lbs
DeVries - 6'2" 205 lbs
Skoula - 6'3" 226 lbs

It also helped that Blake, Bourque, or Foote were pretty much always on the ice:

Blake: 29:26
Bourque: 28:32
Foote: 28:22
Klemm: 16:15
de Vries: 14:17
Skoula: 11:59

For all the talk about Bednar overplaying Makar/Toews, I don't remember those guys ever playing 28-29 minutes per night.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

It also helped that Blake, Bourque, or Foote were pretty much always on the ice:

Blake: 29:26
Bourque: 28:32
Foote: 28:22
Klemm: 16:15
de Vries: 14:17
Skoula: 11:59

For all the talk about Bednar overplaying Makar/Toews, I don't remember those guys ever playing 28-29 minutes per night.

Patrick Roy has said that knowing one or two of them were pretty much always on the ice gave him a huge amount of confidence. He was never worried about major defensive lapses.

 

[dahrougem2]

It also helped that Blake, Bourque, or Foote were pretty much always on the ice:

Blake: 29:26
Bourque: 28:32
Foote: 28:22
Klemm: 16:15
de Vries: 14:17
Skoula: 11:59

For all the talk about Bednar overplaying Makar/Toews, I don't remember those guys ever playing 28-29 minutes per night.

Playoff TOI is skewed because of overtimes. Avs went to overtime 6 times in 2001 including a couple double overtimes.

Bednar is doing that shit in meaningless games against the worst teams in hockey in December lol.

 

[shadow1]

Playoff TOI is skewed because of overtimes. Avs went to overtime 6 times in 2001 including a couple double overtimes.

Bednar is doing that shit in meaningless games against the worst teams in hockey in December lol.

I considered that in my comment. The postseason high water mark for both Makar (27:04) and Toews (25:53) was the Cup season. The '22 team also played 6 OT games.

Looking at the regular season only, the '01 trio all still played monster minutes, 25-26 per night (25:22, 26:03, 26:06). Makar's at 25:25 right now, so basically the same as Foote (25:22) from that season.

 

[lionsDen]

Where does everyone rank Nikki as an all time average?

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Where does everyone rank Nikki as an all time average?

 

[BaconNater]

Surely there's been so many teammate riffs in the past, why is the Miller and EP so significant?

 

[BobRossColton]

How about Olivier+Kuraly? I know Kuraly wouldn't be a 3c but his FO ability would be wonderful for the 4th line

 

[dahrougem2]

Surely there's been so many teammate riffs in the past, why is the Miller and EP so significant?

Probably because it started with Miller/Horvat and people assumed the locker room shit was over when the Canucks chose to move Horvat, but since then it's become Miller/Pettersson and the same issues are still there from a few years ago.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Probably because it started with Miller/Horvat and people assumed the locker room shit was over when the Canucks chose to move Horvat, but since then it's become Miller/Pettersson and the same issues are still there from a few years ago.

The common theme in both "feuds" is JT Miller

 

[Hasbro]

The common theme in both "feuds" is JT Miller

"You keep smelling shit: check your own shoes."

 

[BobRossColton]

I still want Pinto, even more now that we should keep Colton on wing.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Playoff TOI is skewed because of overtimes. Avs went to overtime 6 times in 2001 including a couple double overtimes.

Bednar is doing that shit in meaningless games against the worst teams in hockey in December lol.

But we are currently battling for a wildcard spot. Though he does it regardless, he treats every game as game 7 of the SCF.

I mean, with our home record we really don't want to finish too high in the standings this year either.

 

[lionsDen]

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Mikko, I didn’t see I was auto corrected

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Trade for JT Miller, win a bunch of cups, watch all the drama, watch as the team falls apart completely once Makar goes back home to Calgary, rebuild

 

[missionAvs]

Trade for JT Miller, win a bunch of cups, watch all the drama, watch as the team falls apart completely once Makar goes back home to Calgary, rebuild

The ultimate troll move would be to acquire both JT Miller and EP40. Sleepy CMac "I know you guys hate each other but welcome to the Colorado River".

 

[Chiarelli]

Without knowing any of the nuances of the situation I’d be keeping EP over JT easily. Age, reputation, and ability point to EP. Fully expect Vancouver to do the opposite and ruin that team (grabs popcorn).

 

[Pokecheque]

I just remember that scene on the bench when Miller just started slamming his stick on the dasher and all his teammates looked at him with annoyance.

He’s a damn good player but he’s also a perpetually angry man-child. Some might say I’m describing Nate but IMO his emotional intelligence is light years beyond Miller’s.

 

[Balthazar]

If the Canucks move on from Miller instead of EP I think he's going to Carolina or Nashville.

Trotz did make some cap room right before the freeze and said he'd use it.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

I love JTM. This guy is built to win and f***ing despises people who don’t put work in.

Vancouver is going to trade him and they kind of have to and some team is going to be lucky to have him. I’d do bad things to turn Mittelstadt + whatever to get him. There was definitely a time he was discussed by the Avs brass back when Newhook and Byram were Avs. I’m guessing it can’t happen but f*** could you imagine him on the 2nd line with Nuke.