Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | The Slow Crawl to the Season

John Mandalorian

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If/when the Avs re-sign Rantanen, one of the first decisions they have to make is whether to keep Drouin or Colton as a top 6 LW. If they choose Drouin, that makes Colton a 4 million dollar 3C and a candidate to be swapped out for a less expensive bottom 6 option. But if they see Colton as a top 6 LW, suddenly his 4M AAV seems more reasonable. It’s more unfortunate for Drouin that he’s missing so much time while on a 1 year contract.
 

TonyTwist

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If/when the Avs re-sign Rantanen, one of the first decisions they have to make is whether to keep Drouin or Colton as a top 6 LW. If they choose Drouin, that makes Colton a 4 million dollar 3C and a candidate to be swapped out for a less expensive bottom 6 option. But if they see Colton as a top 6 LW, suddenly his 4M AAV seems more reasonable. It’s more unfortunate for Drouin that he’s missing so much time while on a 1 year contract.

I don’t even think it’s much of a decision. Drouin has shown throughout his career that he can’t stay healthy
 

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Its really strange honestly. Produces like an elite talent all the time regular season + playoffs, but still gets a ton of shit regularly.

It happened when his effort level on the ice changed. I remember being perplexed at first until I watched him more and saw just how damn frustrating he has become. He's a microcosm of this team, a relentless hustle team turned more passive. Mikko plays similarly, he scores in bunches now, doesn't forecheck quite as aggressively and doesn't drive plays the way he used to. I genuinely believe he's living off his TOI and the team's collective offensive talents.

Take it away and he either has to play harder again or he'll produce a lot less.
 

TonyTwist

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It happened when his effort level on the ice changed. I remember being perplexed at first until I watched him more and saw just how damn frustrating he has become. He's a microcosm of this team, a relentless hustle team turned more passive. Mikko plays similarly, he scores in bunches now, doesn't forecheck quite as aggressively and doesn't drive plays the way he used to. I genuinely believe he's living off his TOI and the team's collective offensive talents.

Take it away and he either has to play harder again or he'll produce a lot less.

Yet he’s 4th in league scoring and on pace for 50 goals. Again

What does the guy need to do to get some recognition from his own fan base? Hopefully he doesn’t read these boards or he might want to go somewhere where is fans appreciate him.

I want Drouin re-signed, no questions about it. Rather trade Colton away.

Why? He has proven he can’t play more than half the season throughout his career.

The best quality is availability and Drouin is never available
 

CaleMakaw

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Umm. In 8 years he has had 60 points 3 times with a max of 68.

Isn’t that the definition of a “60 point player” It’s not difficult.

Who cares about the last two seasons. What about the 6 other seasons. Last I checked 434 career points in 593 games is not a point per game player. So infact it is you manipulating the stats by saying that because he is a .7 PPG player.

Or what about his whopping 8 points in 22 career playoff games? .36 PPG

You can take mediocre dime a dozen players who get traded at the deadline every year. I will keep the guy who is 4th in league scoring and a career PPG of 1.1 and 1.25 PPG in the playoffs.

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I guess we should include Mack's first six seasons when evaluating him. But how does a career 1.15 PPG player end up making 12.6 million. Is he a "90-point player" since that's the benchmark he's hit most often?

On the other hand, Nuke is a 0.54 career PPG player, yet he's earning $6 million. Can we really call him a "50-point player" when he's been scoring at a 0.95 PPG pace over the last 3 years?

By your logic would you label mark stone a "40-point player"?

Ignoring injuries and the impact of changes like goalie equipment adjustments which have significantly changed how the game is played and scoring levels, is a flawed way to evaluate talent and to evaluate data.
 

The Abusement Park

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Mack requested to play RW with Crosby on the team I believe, so he will be on that team.

(Not that it matters, Rants would obviously be on the team too lol)
I mean Mackinnon will be a winger on TC but as a whole I wouldn’t count him as a winger in the sense of who’s the best Canadian winger. But yes, Mack would be the better wing player for the Four Nations I would agree there.
 

The Abusement Park

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Yet he’s 4th in league scoring and on pace for 50 goals. Again

What does the guy need to do to get some recognition from his own fan base? Hopefully he doesn’t read these boards or he might want to go somewhere where is fans appreciate him.
Imagine if he scored 55pts less this year but skated harder. That’s my dream player :nod:
 

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uh Mackinnon is a winger on team Canada and Marchand is a top player in the league, where ya been ?
We've been living in 2022 through 2024. That's like saying Patrick Kane is a top player in the league.

Once upon a time, sure. Now, approaching 2025? Pretty silly discussion point.
 

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