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That would be convenient, but if he starts skating in practice regularly, for 5 months, the NHL might actually question that lol.

Yeah they'll "question" that about as hard as they "questioned" Stone's miraculous returns every postseason. Avs have NOTHING to worry about.
 

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How does Nuke's caphit go up from regular years of 6.125 to 6.13m this year? I don't believe that for 1 bit, especially when the suspension happened and at season's end, people including media people were saying it was going to be pro-rated, so like 5m.

If he wasn't on the roster and missed 17 games, its 65g/82g x 6.125 = 4.855183m cap hit.
 

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How does Nuke's caphit go up from regular years of 6.125 to 6.13m this year? I don't believe that for 1 bit, especially when the suspension happened and at season's end, people including media people were saying it was going to be pro-rated, so like 5m.

If he wasn't on the roster and missed 17 games, its 65g/82g x 6.125 = 4.855183m cap hit.
I don’t know what you are saying in the 1st part, but for the second part, that isn’t how cap hits work, at all. Cap hits don’t change at all, period.
 

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How does Nuke's caphit go up from regular years of 6.125 to 6.13m this year? I don't believe that for 1 bit, especially when the suspension happened and at season's end, people including media people were saying it was going to be pro-rated, so like 5m.

If he wasn't on the roster and missed 17 games, its 65g/82g x 6.125 = 4.855183m cap hit.
Some sites, like capwages, round caphits to two decimal points. Hence, Nichushkin is listed at $6.13m which is simply a rounding of $6.125m.
 

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I wouldn’t really take Mtlfansakic as a source of truth for Avs news on Twitter.

He was literally wrong just 2 days ago about Kahkonen and Winnipeg not being able to assign him to the AHL.

I’d imagine the cap experts the Avs hired among CMac’s merry bound of nerds would’ve known best.
 
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I wouldn’t really take Mtlfansakic as a source of truth for Avs news on Twitter.

He was literally wrong just 2 days ago about Kahkonen and Winnipeg being able to assign him to the AHL.

I’d imagine the cap experts the Avs hired among CMac’s merry bound of nerds would’ve known best.
Didn’t Winny assign Kahkonen to the AHL right after the claim?
 
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The NHL has a daily cap, and if you are suspended for an off-ice incident that cap hit does not count towards a team's daily cap IIRC. Since per day Nichushkin has not been on the team's daily cap hit, there's no possible way he's still at 6.125 upon returning.
 

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The NHL has a daily cap, and if you are suspended for an off-ice incident that cap hit does not count towards a team's daily cap IIRC. Since per day Nichushkin has not been on the team's daily cap hit, there's no possible way he's still at 6.125 upon returning.
The problem is the cap really doesn’t care what individual cap hits are, but rather what the total daily cap spending is. If the Avs were healthy and lean, they would have accrued a fair bit of cap space while he was suspended. But that wasn’t the case, they had to spend a fair amount on replacements. Think of it this way, if a team runs a lean cap, they can accrue space and afford to trade for an expensive contract at the deadline. If a team spends to the cap, they can’t do that.
 

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The problem is the cap really doesn’t care what individual cap hits are, but rather what the total daily cap spending is. If the Avs were healthy and lean, they would have accrued a fair bit of cap space while he was suspended. But that wasn’t the case, they had to spend a fair amount on replacements. Think of it this way, if a team runs a lean cap, they can accrue space and afford to trade for an expensive contract at the deadline. If a team spends to the cap, they can’t do that.
But a player's total daily cap hit is calculated on a per-day basis, which is why teams can often afford players at much higher salary rates than what their publicly stated cap space is come TDL.

Nichushkin's off-ice incident renders that cap hit not applicable to the Avs daily rate until his reinstation at a pro-rated hit.
 

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But a player's total daily cap hit is calculated on a per-day basis, which is why teams can often afford players at much higher salary rates than what their publicly stated cap space is come TDL.

Nichushkin's off-ice incident renders that cap hit not applicable to the Avs daily rate until his reinstation at a pro-rated hit.
Correct. But they spent all of that of Klingon, Kaapo, and a bunch of call ups to cover the IR spots. The fundamental issue here is his cap hit never actually changes, it’s just the number of days it’s calculated.
 

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Yeah they'll "question" that about as hard as they "questioned" Stone's miraculous returns every postseason. Avs have NOTHING to worry about.
Are you seriously expecting Uncle Gary to treat the Avs the same way he treats his special golden boys? If so, you haven't been paying attention...
Right, he said they wouldn’t be able to do that.
Didn't they 'assign' Kahkonen to the AHL on a conditioning stint? That's different then straight up sending him to the AHL. After that loan, he'll be back to the NHL and the Jets will have to put him on waivers again if they want to send him to the AHL and I believe the Avs will be able to claim him again if they so choose.
 

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