Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | The Slow Crawl to the Season

Toothless Legend · 2024-10-31T11:37:07-0400

Remember when some analysts had Liljigren penciled in as a top-5 pick early on in the cycle?

Good times.

Pokecheque · 2024-10-31T12:03:36-0400

Toothless Legend said:
Remember when some analysts had Liljigren penciled in as a top-5 pick early on in the cycle?

Good times.

I wouldn't call him that, but he's the kind of defenseman that de Haan would be if he were any good. Not really physical but a good active stick, and enough puckmoving ability to get it out trouble.

dahrougem2 · 2024-10-31T13:50:00-0400

Chiarelli said:
The one thing helping them is the East has gotten considerably weaker. Do I think they beat the panthers - no. But Carolina and Boston have taken a step or two back. Jersey still hasn’t taken that next step. Rangers and panthers are the toughest out. Leafs are probably third best team. Playoffs anything can happen.

I think you can argue Toronto has also taken a step back, though.

Pokecheque · 2024-10-31T13:54:59-0400

dahrougem2 said:
I think you can argue Toronto has also taken a step back, though.

Absolutely astonishing to me how many in the media there have the Leafs steamrolling the entire conference. Even with a few teams (Boston) seemingly regressing I just don't see how they can think Toronto is some elite franchise now, but I guess they're all drinking the Berube Kool-Aid.

LOFIN · 2024-10-31T13:55:17-0400

dahrougem2 said:
I think you can argue Toronto has also taken a step back, though.

Meh. They've clearly upgraded their goaltending. Their defence has always been trash (not the team defence, but the D-corps) so they just improved that. On forwards, they lost Bertuzzi so they got weaker there but not like he was that good.

I think they are in a better spot than last year. Does that make them a top contender, hell naw.

henchman21 · 2024-10-31T13:55:30-0400

Its very early... but Panthers > Rangers > New Jersey > and a whole plate of goodish. Right now Washington looks fantastic. They took some major risks and filled the roster with very talented, but very flawed pieces. So far it is working, and honestly it wouldn't be all that shocking for them to end up a pretty good team (though I don't see them coming closer to contending)... they could also have PLD, Strome, Sandin, Chychrun, Vrana and Mangiapane all fall on their face and be bottom 10 again.

Pokecheque · 2024-10-31T14:17:01-0400

LOFIN said:
Meh. They've clearly upgraded their goaltending. Their defence has always been trash (not the team defence, but the D-corps) so they just improved that. On forwards, they lost Bertuzzi so they got weaker there but not like he was that good.

I think they are in a better spot than last year. Does that make them a top contender, hell naw.

I think they've further eroded their skill and speed, not by a substantial margin but enough IMO to make a difference. Tanev is good but I don't think he moves the needle nearly enough. Not to mention there's no way Nylander hits the stride he hit in his contract year, and Tavares continues to decline.

In essence, despite an improvement in goal, they're older, slower, and IMO not as skilled as last season. They still just scream "first round exit" to me.

I'm sure now that I've typed that out they'll have some crazy-ass fluke run in the playoffs and make me regret those words.

RoyIsALegend · 2024-10-31T15:00:47-0400

Pokecheque said:
I think they've further eroded their skill and speed, not by a substantial margin but enough IMO to make a difference. Tanev is good but I don't think he moves the needle nearly enough. Not to mention there's no way Nylander hits the stride he hit in his contract year, and Tavares continues to decline.

In essence, despite an improvement in goal, they're older, slower, and IMO not as skilled as last season. They still just scream "first round exit" to me.

I'm sure now that I've typed that out they'll have some crazy-ass fluke run in the playoffs and make me regret those words.

You should hear the Toronto media talk about Tanev.

This morning, Mike Johnson and Carlo Colaiacovo were listing him on their Team Canada squad for the Four Nations ahead of Alex Pietrangelo.

They also questioned if Devon Toews would even make the team if he wasn’t Cale Makar’s D partner.

No joke.

Balthazar · 2024-10-31T15:16:04-0400

henchman21 said:
they could also have PLD, Strome, Sandin, Chychrun, Vrana and Mangiapane all fall on their face and be bottom 10 again.

Chris Patrick to other GM's: "give me all the players you don't like"

Balthazar · 2024-10-31T15:24:45-0400

Me, whenever CDH is on the ice.

henchman21 · 2024-10-31T15:34:51-0400

Balthazar said:
Chris Patrick to other GM's: "give me all the players you don't like"

Yeah basically... a bunch of misfit toys who somehow are working together. Maybe because this is their last real chance.

RoyIsALegend · 2024-10-31T15:49:28-0400

henchman21 said:
Yeah basically... a bunch of misfit toys who somehow are working together. Maybe because this is their last real chance.

“Room for one more?”

Pokecheque · 2024-10-31T16:05:43-0400

Oh shit I forgot MacLellan ain't the GM In Washington anymore.

The Merchant · 2024-10-31T16:08:08-0400

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852059987545084125

A bit of vet depth sure would hit the spot right about now

Bill Peckerskull · 2024-10-31T16:23:08-0400

Balthazar said:
https://x.com/i/web/status/1851445910431285518

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852071849535905810

Tommy Shelby · 2024-10-31T16:32:12-0400

Bill Peckerskull said:
https://x.com/i/web/status/1852071849535905810

Why the f*** would he even waste his money on this, he's gonna wear it like 6 times

Bill Peckerskull · 2024-10-31T16:54:37-0400

Tommy Shelby said:
Why the f*** would he even waste his money on this, he's gonna wear it like 6 times

Or maybe not at all...

BobRossColton · 2024-10-31T17:03:13-0400

In that main thread about Friedman speculation that we're looking for forward help, someone suggested Lukas Reichel, would he fit our middle six?

I'd also like to circle back to Frost for 3C, when Gabe and Colton come back, Colton looks so much better at wing.

It's sad that we still won't get our actually impressive on paper top 9 though.

AvalancheSpeedsters · 2024-10-31T17:39:07-0400

BobRossColton said:
In that main thread about Friedman speculation that we're looking for forward help, someone suggested Lukas Reichel, would he fit our middle six?

I'd also like to circle back to Frost for 3C, when Gabe and Colton come back, Colton looks so much better at wing.

It's sad that we still won't get our actually impressive on paper top 9 though.

Reichel would be interesting for sure .

Richard88 · 2024-10-31T18:04:49-0400

AvalancheSpeedsters said:
Reichel would be interesting for sure .

Why would Chicago trade him?

AvalancheSpeedsters · 2024-10-31T18:49:53-0400

Richard88 said:
Why would Chicago trade him?

They wouldn’t in all likelihood , but hey stranger things have happened .

BobRossColton · 2024-10-31T19:23:32-0400

How about a different approach, Manson+rangers 2nd for Rutta+Dellandrea

Frenchy · 2024-10-31T20:01:03-0400

BobRossColton said:
How about a different approach, Manson+rangers 2nd for Rutta+Dellandrea

They shouldnt trade Manson, if they do the defense will be soft like butter.
Others teams will kill the Avs in the playoffs without a guy like Manson

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