Cypher
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The dream of 1for1 with Brady and Moose is long dead.
We should move on to Miko+ for Necas + Drury
We should move on to Miko+ for Necas + Drury
Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | The Slow Crawl to the Season
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Bill Peckerskull
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They’re doing this about 2-3 years late.
He could’ve gotten a big return back then.
The Abusement Park
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Maybe next year without Rantanen would could sign Armia, Greenway, Kuzmenko, and Bennett
The depth!
dahrougem2
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Him and Gibson. Feels like they have been trying to move those guys for years but never pull the trigger.
Freaky Styley
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I've wondered about this hypothetical base, assuming Nuke is good-to-go and he agrees to waive:
To NYR:
Nuke
Malinski
To COL:
Kakko
Schneider
Not sure it works for the Rags cap-wise but saves us ~1.5M and allows us to trade Girard with another F for an upgrade and/or more cap space.
Probably need to add something else going to the Rags but gives them a big splash they didn't get in the offseason and they have guys to replace Schneider internally. Plus it gives us a Manson replacement.
Might be something that would need to wait until the Trouba situation plays out and maybe impossible because of it, but just a thought.
To NYR:
Nuke
Malinski
To COL:
Kakko
Schneider
Not sure it works for the Rags cap-wise but saves us ~1.5M and allows us to trade Girard with another F for an upgrade and/or more cap space.
Probably need to add something else going to the Rags but gives them a big splash they didn't get in the offseason and they have guys to replace Schneider internally. Plus it gives us a Manson replacement.
Might be something that would need to wait until the Trouba situation plays out and maybe impossible because of it, but just a thought.
expatriatedtexan
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My initial thought was, Holy shit!!! Mathieu is still playing? Last I heard he was with Phoenix.
I would've done it even sooner than that.
He was never a guy they should've tried to build around in the first place.
John Mandalorian
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You’re confident Nichushkin would appeal to NYR given his circumstance?
If Kakko is a Nichushkin replacement, it’s worth noting that Nichushkin was on the 3rd line for 1-2 years before he reached the high level player from the past few years. Kakko might take time too. Don’t hate it but other top 6 players need to stay healthy. It might be too soon to expect a lot from Kakko.
I like the idea of adding Schneider assuming the deal is viable.
Metallo
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That trade would slam shut our Cup window. As much as I am mad at Nuke, he has to comeback for us to have any chance.
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
It's time to let go. This guy will never play again with the Avalanche or should he.
I am saying that as a huge Nuke fan(incredible player), but we are done. You can't trust him.
And the return of Rantanen trade. Peterka or Quinn,Ohlund and 1st 2025
LOFIN
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A 1 year rental is not going to fetch that price, no matter how good Rantanen is lol
AvsMakar08
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expatriatedtexan
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That would be hysterical from the perspective that we'd be clearing all the salary we need to resign JD to his final big contract this summer when he hits UFA. We need to pay this man not only a reasonable rate for what he's providing us, but maybe give him an extra 250K to make up for the discounts he's given us so far.
Metallo
NWOBHM forever \m/
We can't trust him and the odds that it works are not great, but greater than 0. We have no chance w/o Nuke.
Freaky Styley
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I'm not confident about any of it, it's based on assumptions.
But it's just me guessing that Nuke's tenure here is likely over. Russian players like NYR although for someone like Nuke with addiction issues it's maybe not the best landing spot. But you could say that for almost anywhere.
I don't expect Kakko to replace Nuke, but on the Avs I'd expect him to improve on his current production and we usually are good with reclamation projects. I would just see him as a 3rd liner that could spot-fill in the top portion of the lineup if need be.
There's a few ways to look at this.
With Nuke on the ice, we are a better team than any other scenario. The only real reason this is being considered is because that's not guaranteed.
With a trade like this we downgrade up front but improve our D, both now and long-term. The real 'win' is the peace of mind that comes with the knowledge that Kakko/Schnedier will be in the lineup for us barring injury. With Nuke, it's either Nuke or no Nuke, and no Nuke is the absolute worse outcome from this scenario. Getting Schneider also frees us up a bit to move Girard to further gain cap space and/or improve our Fs.
There's also a different lens that although this might weaken us this year, it improves us for a re-load in the future. We could hope Nuke + Landy work out and go all-in again, this move builds contingencies so that 2 years out our lineup could include Gulyayev + Ritchie + Schneider + Kakko + Behrens to go along with our core. So we could try for another Cup this year or maybe shoot for 2 years down the road while being competitive. My worry is our management team is trying to do both.
Schneider is the big get here. He becomes Manson's heir apparent to stabilize the 2nd pair.
At any rate, this team should be doing all that it can to acquire Gourde at the deadline @50% and shift Colton to the wing.
The Kingslayer
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Ill take Nuke back. AK, hookers and pills. All of it.
LOFIN
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We should trade Mikko for hookers and coke and give it all to Val when he comes back
Bill Peckerskull
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