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Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

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Freaky Styley said:
Chicago has no need for more D. They'd want Ritchie or Mitts. Also, Gulyayev will be better than Ritchie.
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Sorry but it’s hard to see a team with Bedard (19), holding out for Mitts. Also, how is their LD pipeline so strong they’d turn their nose up at Gulyayev. He’s exactly in their window.
 
John Mandalorian said:
His father is employed by the Nuggets and Sakic was a presence in his life. But he’d probably be ok with either. The problem is that the Avs have less to offer. Ritchie should not be used in this transaction. Gulyayev, ok maybe. But Dallas has drafted well. It gives them a position of advantage. Chicago can just say, “we like Dallas’ offer more; will you accept a trade there, Seth.”
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What the hell are you saving Ritchie for? So he can flame out like Jost and Newhook? If he's what it takes to get any deal done, so be it. He looked like trash at the WJC and should be viewed as a red flag right now for the franchise. If he can facilitate a deal for a #4D or as part of a package for a 2C, there should be absolutely no hesitation from CMac on this.
 
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Freaky Styley said:
Chicago has no need for more D. They'd want Ritchie or Mitts. Also, Gulyayev will be better than Ritchie.
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Why does Chicago have no need for more D? They’re trading a D. Murphy has a decent chance of being traded. Are you suggesting that Chicago has added three blue chip prospects since drafting Bedard, a forward, two years ago? Please start making sense.
 
John Mandalorian said:
Sorry but it’s hard to see a team with Bedard (19), holding out for Mitts. Also, how is their LD pipeline so strong they’d turn their nose up at Gulyayev. He’s exactly in their window.
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Mitts is all of 26... that's old now?

Vlasic/Del Maestro/Korchinski/Kaiser/Allan on the left, Levshunov/Rinzel/Crevier on the right. Yes, I think they're doing ok.

John Mandalorian said:
Why does Chicago have no need for more D? They’re trading a D. Murphy has a decent chance of being traded. Are you suggesting that Chicago has added three blue chip prospects since drafting Bedard, a forward, two years ago? Please start making sense.
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Feel free to go ask the Chicago board yourself 🤷‍♂️
 
Freaky Styley said:
Mitts is all of 26... that's old now?

Vlasic/Del Maestro/Korchinski/Kaiser/Allan on the left, Levshunov/Rinzel/Crevier on the right. Yes, I think they're doing ok.


Feel free to go ask the Chicago board yourself 🤷‍♂️
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Follow the bouncing ball. Jones has essentially admitted as an actual participant that Chicago is several years away from contending. How old will Mitts be the then, genius?
 
I think Ritchie will very likely be better than Newhook and Jost.

But the Avs need to make some moves and they don't have the luxury of making someone like Ritchie off limits.

If they can bring in a better stylistic fit at 2C than Mitts, there's much less need for Ritchie. It's also not clear if he'll be a center or wing in the NHL. Also, not totally clear what level he'll play at, or how long it will take to get to develop into a playoff impact player. That's the level they need out of their top 9 the next couple years.

If the Avs need to use Ritchie to bring in a D man like Jones, and can still swap Mitts for a better stylistic fit under contract a couple years or more, I think you make those moves.

If they decide to keep Mitts, then I think you keep Ritchie for insurance next year. But it's probably a notably worse team for their Cup run this year, and they may be stuck in the same position next year.
 
John Mandalorian said:
Follow the bouncing ball. Jones has essentially admitted as an actual participant that Chicago is several years away from contending. How old will Mitts be the then, genius?
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Lol why the hostility? Mitts is still young and they need improvements at their NHL forwards NOW. Chicago might be years away from contending but they are going to want to stat COMPETING as soon as next year. Mitts is also more of a sure thing than RItchie at this point.

I think both parties would prefer to include Ritchie, but Mitts still fills a need for the Hawks and could long term. how old was Kadri when we won with him as our 2C again? P.S. Mitts has better numbers in his career to date than Kadri did at the same age.
 
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Foppa2118 said:
I think Ritchie will very likely be better than Newhook and Jost.

But the Avs need to make some moves and they don't have the luxury of making someone like Ritchie off limits.

If they can bring in a better stylistic fit at 2C than Mitts, there's much less need for Ritchie. It's also not clear if he'll be a center or wing in the NHL. Also, not totally clear what level he'll play at, or how long it will take to get to develop into a playoff impact player. That's the level they need out of their top 9 the next couple years.

If the Avs need to use Ritchie to bring in a D man like Jones, and can still swap Mitts for a better stylistic fit under contract a couple years or more, I think you make those moves.

If they decide to keep Mitts, then I think you keep Ritchie for insurance next year. But it's probably a notably worse team for their Cup run this year, and they may be stuck in the same position next year.
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1. I'm not sure what makes you think this.
2. Even if true, that's not saying much.

Ritchie is the most expendable assett we have. He's not going to be a #2C at anypoint while Nate is still in his prime. We're already stuffed to the gills on forwards. And let's face it.... did either of Jost or Newhook work when we shifted them to wing?

My take after watching the WJC is that I'm simply not impressed with Calum at all. If he's playing in a significant role at any point in the next two years something else will have had to have gone very badly.
 
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Foppa2118 said:
Ritchie has shown me more natural talent and vision than Newhook or Jost ever did at similar levels. Also bigger and faster than both, and seems like more of a natural athlete, all of which helps in the NHL.
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I just haven't seen any of that in my viewings. Although I'm the first to say I don't watch juniors that much. I'm talking about my viewings of him in the NHL and at the WJC... and he looked out of place in the NHL and very vanilla in the WJCs. I just have a very difficult time seeing that change into a significant NHL player in the next season or three. I imagine he might get along as a middle sixer...but if it's here I just can't see it turning out any differently than it did with Jost, NewJost or MiddleJost. It's going to suck if he turns out to be nothing more than a RichJost.
 
expatriatedtexan said:
I just haven't seen any of that in my viewings. Although I'm the first to say I don't watch juniors that much. I'm talking about my viewings of him in the NHL and at the WJC... and he looked out of place in the NHL and very vanilla in the WJCs. I just have a very difficult time seeing that change into a significant NHL player in the next season or three. I imagine he might get along as a middle sixer...but if it's here I just can't see it turning out any differently than it did with Jost, NewJost or MiddleJost. It's going to suck if he turns out to be nothing more than a RichJost.
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While I think you're selling Callum short a bit - I think he has the potential to be a capable 2C at some point - I agree that it's not happening anytime soon and he should be traded to assist Mack in his prime.
 
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Richie’s numbers don’t look much better this year relative to last. Still over a point per game but you usually see big jumps year to year for players who end up being legit in the NHL.
 
Ararana said:
I actually like Jones as a #3D in Colorado, but why on earth they'd take on even a portion of that contract is beyond me. He should be completely untradable with that contract.
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Yeah I don't disagree. The full NMC is the cherry on top. It's probably going to take a third team getting involved to make the trade work, but at the same time I don't think any GM would be keen on retaining for 6 years, regardless of the return.

If two teams retain $1.5mil each, he comes in at $6.5mil. The Avs would be trading an absolute premium for that imo.


AnimalMother73 said:
Richie’s numbers don’t look much better this year relative to last. Still over a point per game but you usually see big jumps year to year for players who end up being legit in the NHL.
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I'd personally have no issue selling high on him, if it means getting the right piece back. We've had a good run of prospects that have failed to meet their potential in Newhook, Jost, Helleson, Barron etc... All have returned great pieces, and the Avs are better off for it.
 
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John Mandalorian said:
Follow the bouncing ball. Jones has essentially admitted as an actual participant that Chicago is several years away from contending. How old will Mitts be the then, genius?
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I didn't follow your back-and-forth, so my comment is out of context... but do you have to resort to insults ?

dahrougem2 said:
Didn't Dallas use their LTIR money on Granlund and Ceci? Unless the plan is put Heiskanen there, too.
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They used Seguin's LTIR.
 
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