Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

[Alienblood]

Zegras does his own thing out there, dipsy doodling and turning over the puck all the time. Zero commitment to defense or buying into any style, focus is on highlight reel plays. Also not fast at all.

Would be a weird target but might speak to the speculated disconnect between CMac and Bednar.

He is insanely talented, though. That cannot be questioned.

His shootout winner last night:

I'd do that trade,

 

[Foppa2118]

Yeah, run Drouin & Mack together, then Zacha and Necas most of the time.

Then you Sakic/Forsberg the shit when you need to.

Lehhky and Nuke both would be valuable on either line.

Zacha will never see the first PP unit unless Nuke is out and they want a net front big guy. So you count on 45 ish points EV from him, who knows maybe more with Necas facing not top competition and D pairs on the second line, but 50+ faceoff ability, PK minutes.

I think we'd be good.



Fk em

Necas is so smart, and has such good vision, that if he has good chemistry with Zacha, he might be able to get Zacha goals just by firing pucks at his head in front of the net to bounce in.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Curious to know what we do with the D.

We all agree we need at least one defenseman. Utopia is Jones so Manson slides down, but more realistic path is a partner for Malinski on the third pair.

We have 8 D right now and that can’t/won’t continue.

Kylington
de Haan
Middleton

At least 1, more likely 2, need to go if we want to bring in another D.

Bednar really likes Middleton so he probably stays as the 7D if we acquire somebody, meaning we need to get rid of Kylington($1.05m) and de Haan($0.8m).

It could be as easy as putting them on waivers and sending them down, but I doubt management wants to pay them their NHL salary in the minors.

Kylington might have a market based on reputation, but I can’t see any takers on de Haan unless we force him into a trade as a contract throw-in.

 

[flyfysher]

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Good. I'd like him to sign long-term with the canes rather than anything else, personally.

Keep Rants in the Eastern Conference. I don’t want him to go to the Stars or VGK.

 

[CobraAcesS]

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Good. I'd like him to sign long-term with the canes rather than anything else, personally.

Yeah, I don't want him in the West trying to prove himself. That's scary..

All Mikko needs to do is up his conditioning a little, back to what he was two years ago and he'll be a monster.

Hope he realizes that, and I don't want to see him against us again unless it's in the finals.

 

[Foppa2118]

Curious to know what we do with the D.

We all agree we need at least one defenseman. Utopia is Jones so Manson slides down, but more realistic path is a partner for Malinski on the third pair.

We have 8 D right now and that can’t/won’t continue.

Kylington
de Haan
Middleton

At least 1, more likely 2, need to go if we want to bring in another D.

Bednar really likes Middleton so he probably stays as the 7D if we acquire somebody, meaning we need to get rid of Kylington($1.05m) and de Haan($0.8m).

It could be as easy as putting them on waivers and sending them down, but I doubt management wants to pay them their NHL salary in the minors.

Kylington might have a market based on reputation, but I can’t see any takers on de Haan unless we force him into a trade as a contract throw-in.

If CMac traded Tatar and RJ last year after signing them in the off season, he's probably willing to move CDH.

He's playing for a one way contract next year too. Good chance that's more important to him than a Cup run, and similar to Tatar, he might welcome a trade to a team with a better fit, so he can end the season with a stronger finish than he's shown in Colorado.

Middleton can bounce between the Avs and Eagles if they need another spot. He's played 17 games there this year.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Curious to know what we do with the D.

We all agree we need at least one defenseman. Utopia is Jones so Manson slides down, but more realistic path is a partner for Malinski on the third pair.

We have 8 D right now and that can’t/won’t continue.

Kylington
de Haan
Middleton

At least 1, more likely 2, need to go if we want to bring in another D.

Bednar really likes Middleton so he probably stays as the 7D if we acquire somebody, meaning we need to get rid of Kylington($1.05m) and de Haan($0.8m).

It could be as easy as putting them on waivers and sending them down, but I doubt management wants to pay them their NHL salary in the minors.

Kylington might have a market based on reputation, but I can’t see any takers on de Haan unless we force him into a trade as a contract throw-in.

Middleton will be the most useful in the playoffs. Easily..

Yes he makes mistakes, but he's a monster, and built for the NHL playoffs. The rest don't have value to me as a backup if we actually improve the every day roster.

 

[flyfysher]

I wonder if Rants now understands why the Avs weren’t willing to pay up. Look at the line combos which we are proposing with Necas and how much more depth the Avs have.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Curious to know what we do with the D.

We all agree we need at least one defenseman. Utopia is Jones so Manson slides down, but more realistic path is a partner for Malinski on the third pair.

We have 8 D right now and that can’t/won’t continue.

Kylington
de Haan
Middleton

At least 1, more likely 2, need to go if we want to bring in another D.

Bednar really likes Middleton so he probably stays as the 7D if we acquire somebody, meaning we need to get rid of Kylington($1.05m) and de Haan($0.8m).

It could be as easy as putting them on waivers and sending them down, but I doubt management wants to pay them their NHL salary in the minors.

Kylington might have a market based on reputation, but I can’t see any takers on de Haan unless we force him into a trade as a contract throw-in.

What is the actual question? Sorry, maybe I'm just having a moment.

Which one do I pick?

Sam or Middleton depending on who they bring in..

 

[Alienblood]

Zegras is a pretty clear risk. But Bednar is damn good at getting the best out of highly talented players. I would hope Bedsy has some input on whether he would want Zegras or not. But I would imagine Bednar would get great use out of him. Again all the players Bednar has coached with Zegras' talent have had either career years here or clearly hit what would be expected of their realistic potential. Again there's certainly risk involved there, but I'd rather take the risk on Zegras' upside than Zacha or the corpse of ROR/Nelson.

uh ROR is still good. I don't get where you keep saying this, every team wants him

 

[CobraAcesS]

I wonder if Rants now understands why the Avs weren’t willing to pay up. Look at the line combos which we are proposing with Necas and how much more depth the Avs have.

Oh Mikko definitely fkn understands why he's not worth 14M now lol.

Sad.. he needs to fire his agent. 100%

If his goal was to stay here, he and his agent both f***ed it up lol.

My prediction, Mikko takes a prove it deal. I think absolutely no one is going to trust him, and I don't think his production is going to do anything but tank further on that team.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

What is the actual question? Sorry, maybe I'm just having a moment.

Which one do I pick?

Sam or Middleton depending on who they bring in..

Not really a question, just thinking aloud.

If we want to add a defensemen, we have to ditch 2 of these guys.

They either need to be traded or put on waivers, but I doubt Kroenke is a fan of paying them their NHL salaries in the AHL.

 

[hockeyfish]

I'd do that trade,

Be honest, you'd trade Mitts for a shoe full of poop.

 

[forsbergavs32]

Be honest, you'd trade Mitts for a shoe full of poop.

2 shoes or no deal

 

[Foppa2118]

Zegras does his own thing out there, dipsy doodling and turning over the puck all the time. Zero commitment to defense or buying into any style, focus is on highlight reel plays. Also not fast at all.

Would be a weird target but might speak to the speculated disconnect between CMac and Bednar.

He is insanely talented, though. That cannot be questioned.

His shootout winner last night:

I get why the Avs may be interested in Zegras offensively, but the bolded would signal such a crazy disconnect between the GM and coach, for a position they're trying to improve because the last guy in that role wasn't a good fit for the coach either.

If there's one thing we've seen from day 1 with Bednar, it's that if you don't buy into the system, if you don't play the way he wants, if you have too many turnovers, and you're not committed to defending, you don't play.

This would be a real head scratcher for me if it happened.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Not really a question, just thinking aloud.

If we want to add a defensemen, we have to ditch 2 of these guys.

They either need to be traded or put on waivers, but I doubt Kroenke is a fan of paying them their NHL salaries in the AHL.

No one cares if we're paying them in the minors if we're making the playoffs. You know that.

It's depth..

We all know playoff revenue is pure gold for every franchise. Very few teams make money until the playoffs.

I want a baconator so bad rN. f*** my fast food cravings seriously.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

2 shoes or no deal

Maybe this guy should be our GM

 

[Alienblood]

Be honest, you'd trade Mitts for a shoe full of poop.

yeah but Zegras hss the talent to take that risk

 

[a mangy Meowth]

yeah but Zegras hss the talent to take that risk

I'm interpreting this post as you thinking Zegras = a shoe full of poop

 

[shadow1]

The Avs are set at depth 3rd/4th line center. They have Kelly/Drury now, and could plug in Colton/Parssinen if they had to, if injuries occur. Maybe a bit light offensively, but otherwise pretty solid.

The problem is 2C. Period, end of story.

Yeah I agree. Don't even want to steer the conversation in that direction because what Colorado has at 3C/4C now is perfectly serviceable and is the least of their problems.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

The people clamouring to take on the risk of Zegras while being frustrated with Mittelstadt should watch how he (Zegras) actually plays in games and not just his highlight reels.

 

[Chibby]

I like the idea of Zegras but he can’t be the answer at 2C. I personally don’t even see him as a C long term. Also, he’s a playmaker and less of a shooter. We need a shooter.

 

[flyfysher]

The people clamouring to take on the risk of Zegras while being frustrated with Mittelstadt should watch how he (Zegras) actually plays in games and not just his highlight reels.

Avs don’t need Crosby or Kadri but I’d be hesitant to go with an unproven commodity even if we thought they’d develop further. Isn’t the point of trading Mitts now to advance in these POs?

 

[dahrougem2]

Honestly, if the Avs are too pressed now then maybe the best course of action is trading Mittelstadt to the highest bidder (picks/prospects) then making a hard push for Brock Nelson, who likely wouldn't cost everything you'd potentially acquire for 37.

Kick the can down the line come the offseason putting Ritchie and picks on the table.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

He wouldn’t be available, but Owen Tippett would be the perfect player for us.

1. Speed/Skating: Effortless skater. Blinding speed. 98th percentile in top speed, 98th percentile in bursts 20-22 mph, 99th percentile in bursts 22+ mph.

2. Shoot-first mentality: 12th in the NHL in shot attempts per 60 minutes. Rips it from anywhere.

3. Size: 6’1”, 210 pounds and uses his frame. Thick boy. 4th on the Flyers in hits.

4. Age: 25 years old. Entering prime.

5. Contract: Locked up for 8 years at $6.2m AAV.

Man, I’d pay a pretty penny for Tippett but the Flyers would be nuts to move him.