Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

[Avsfan1921]

What kind of player is Carlo? I saw a Peg fan post about his contract (3 years left, under 4.5) and mentioned he plays right side. I don’t watch Boston so I know nothing about the guy outside of him being highly praised a few years back.

His age and contract certainly seem to be a fit for the style of trades Cmac is known for, how about the player, would he fit well?

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Calling it now, NJD does something stupid and trades Nemec for Colton+Gulyayev

 

[Grackle Party]

K’Andre Miller If hes truly available makes a bunch of sense, I think he could excel in the Avs system and he fits CMAC's mo heading into RFA
He's left D though I think

 

[Balthazar]

With Mitts playing a lot better lately

This myth needs to stop immediately. He was literally in the doghouse and played 4th line minutes 2 games ago.

He needs to be replaced at the deadline, there’s no way around that.

 

[Avs9296]

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This myth needs to stop immediately. He was literally in the doghouse and played 4th line minutes 2 games ago.

He needs to be replaced at the deadline, there’s no way around that.

I wouldn't say it's a myth. The numbers back that up over the last 6 or so games.

He's not back to last year's playoffs level, but he's better than he's been from November to January.

 

[Freaky Styley]

Calling it now, NJD does something stupid and trades Nemec for Colton+Gulyayev

Ehh... that might be stupid for the Avs. Nemec has upside but he's trending poorly regardless of his AHL point streak. Bednar isn't going to like his decision making. I think Gulayayev has as much potential at this point. Casey though...

The advantaged the Avs have with Jones is that he'd probably waive to come here. Not sure that's the case with other teams with similar needs - Winnipeg, no, Dallas probably, but they just spent one of their best assets and some cap space. They'd move Dumba + a forward though probably

 

[Balthazar]

I wouldn't say it's a myth. The numbers back that up over the last 6 or so games.

He's not back to last year's playoffs level, but he's better than he's been from November to January.

Bednar doesn’t like him and unless we get a new coach we need a new 2C

 

[dahrougem2]

Bednar doesn’t like him and unless we get a new coach we need a new 2C

This is the biggest thing. Bednar has decided based on Mitts' poor play for three months that he wants nothing to do with this player anymore.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

Bednar doesn’t like him and unless we get a new coach we need a new 2C

I don't disagree with this but it doesn't change the fact he has been better lately. He doesn't lose the puck nearly as often as he used to and he is at least producing now as well. Would I prefer an upgrade on him? Obviously but I think an upgrade on Manson to play in the top-4 is more important right now. Jones at 7.5M would fit this team so well. Another extremely important point on getting Jones is to reduce Makar's minutes especially on PK. PK is very taxing on a dman and also very dangerous to get hurt from blocking shots.

 

[Avs9296]

I read here that someone said Evan confirmed the Avs interest in Jones. Where can I read that?

 

[myperbixhurts]

I read somewhere when Jones was with the Jackets and was getting traded, he said he’d love to go to Colorado or Dallas. I think Friedman reported that

 

[RoyIsALegend]

If CMac doesn’t do anything else before the 4 nations or during, there are only 6 more games I believe until the trade deadline

As of today, we have 9 games left before the trade deadline.

 

[hockeyfish]

As of today, we have 9 games left before the trade deadline.

And 4 + weeks. Stupid break.

I read here that someone said Evan confirmed the Avs interest in Jones. Where can I read that?

Sources told The Denver Gazette the Avalanche have checked in on Seth Jones, but they're not the only team that has done so. There's no way the Avalanche could take on his full contract, so there would have to be some maneuvering and retention done for something to get finalized there. Either way, a general manager doesn't typically spend that much time looking at a team if it's a standard trade for a rental.

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[myperbixhurts]

As of today, we have 9 games left before the trade deadline.

I know. It’s 6 games left after the 4 nations and before the trade deadline. That’s what I meant

 

[shadow1]

This myth needs to stop immediately. He was literally in the doghouse and played 4th line minutes 2 games ago.

He needs to be replaced at the deadline, there’s no way around that.

It's not a myth, see my post here:

	GP	G	A	P	SOG	CF%	xGF%
11/11-1/17	31	2	8	10	25	46.6%*	40.2*
1/18(Dallas Game)-Now	8	1	5	6	11	59.6%**	60.7%^

*Last amongst Avs players (min. 13GP)
**7th amongst Avs players (min. 2GP)
^6th amongst Avs players (min. 2GP)

It's not a matter of adjusting perceptions with Mittelstadt. He's been good since the Dallas game. But he was awful from mid-November to mid-January.

So take this post as both a sign of optimism, and confirmation there isn't some weird Kadri-influenced mass psychosis happening. If Mitts keeps this play up, the 2C conversations will stop.

If we're only talking ice time, he's fifth amongst forwards (13:35) since the Necas trade. I think that's a good reference point because Colorado essentially swapped out one player (Mikko) for three (Drury, Necas, Wood), and Bednar has been spreading the ice time wealth...to some extent.

13:35 sounds low, but Mitts doesn't play on special teams at all, practically.

I don't think there's a clearer example than this: three games ago, Drouin and Lehkonen flipped spots. In those three games, Drouin (13:41) and Mittelstadt (13:09) have similar ES ice time. The difference is that Mittelstadt averaged 0:16 of power play time per game over that stretch, while Drouin averaged a gargantuan 3:21 of PP time per game.

 

[chet1926]

It's not a myth, see my post here:



If we're only talking ice time, he's fifth amongst forwards (13:35) since the Necas trade. I think that's a good reference point because Colorado essentially swapped out one player (Mikko) for three (Drury, Necas, Wood), and Bednar has been spreading the ice time wealth...to some extent.

13:35 sounds low, but Mitts doesn't play on special teams at all, practically.

I don't think there's a clearer example than this: three games ago, Drouin and Lehkonen flipped spots. In those three games, Drouin (13:41) and Mittelstadt (13:09) have similar ES ice time. The difference is that Mittelstadt averaged 0:16 of power play time per game over that stretch, while Drouin averaged a gargantuan 3:21 of PP time per game.

Mitts sucks and more than likely will be traded. Bednar hates him, this isn't going to change because of his last 6 games.

It's easy to make someone look good when you cherry pick the stats you want and ignore the rest of the season.

 

[Hasbro]

This is precisely why I think he'd do so well here. Doesn't have to be "The guy" that he's been in Chicago his entire tenure. Can settle in nicely on the 2nd pairing behind Cale/Toews and IMO he and G would feast together in that role.

Also allows you to slot Manson down into the 3rd pairing where his minutes and responsibilities would be pulled back as well.


...Yeah, Jones is the guy I want. Dont think I want him at $9.5M but if Chicago is willing to retain and you can get him at ~$7.5M, yeah that'd be ideal.

If he dogs it. Have Popeye come across the hall and kick his ass.

Colorado should not be paying for retention. Jones is NOT a 9.5M player. The Blackhawks should know this. Their cornerstone player is 19 and Jones is 30. LOL at him being a core player. If Chicago retains to align with his actual value as a player, they’d still be freeing up 7ish million off the books for several years to build around Bedard.

Some of the recent comments about this are embarrassingly bad.

It really is an OEL analogue.

 

[EdAVSfan]

Mitts sucks and more than likely will be traded. Bednar hates him, this isn't going to change because of his last 6 games.

It's easy to make someone look good when you cherry pick the stats you want and ignore the rest of the season.

I definitely don’t think Shadow is trying to make him look good. He’s basically outlining the raw data of mittlestadt

Mittlestadt has played about 80 games for Avs. He’s been good in 50 of them, bad in 30 of them. Nothing cherry-picked, that’s his complete career with Colorado. These last 8 games are more like the 50 than the 30. Will it last? Who knows.

But I think people need to prepare themselves for the fact that he may not be traded. There is very simply, an extremely small amount of centers who would be considered actual upgrades, be available, where we actually have the assets to make the move, etc.

And when I say extremely small amount, I mean I can’t think of any.

JT Miller was one of the few options, and that may never have been an option to begin with.

 

[shadow1]

Mitts sucks and more than likely will be traded. Bednar hates him, this isn't going to change because of his last 6 games.

It's easy to make someone look good when you cherry pick the stats you want and ignore the rest of the season.

I included Mittelstadt’s most brutal stretch. If anything, I cherry picked those stats, considering how random a 31 game sample size is.

 

[BobRossColton]

I just don't see us trading Mitts, basically admitting that we regret giving up on Bo.

 

[Muffin]

Mitts sucks and more than likely will be traded. Bednar hates him, this isn't going to change because of his last 6 games.

It's easy to make someone look good when you cherry pick the stats you want and ignore the rest of the season.

Cherry pick stats what? Mittelstadt was good last season right after the trade probably the most consistent player in the playoffs. He was also point per game to start the year. If anything the month and a half of bad play is the outlier.

The truth is the current Mittelstadt is par with 2019-2011 Kadri.

 

[Pokecheque]

I just don't see us trading Mitts, basically admitting that we regret giving up on Bo.

You don't see a trade? YOU!?!?

Bullshit.

You can envision a trade for Reg Dunlop, and he's a fictional hockey player played by an actor who's been dead 16 years.

 

[Muffin]

I know we want Mittelstadt to be up around 60 points but I think that's a big ask with basically zero PP time. Let's not forget Kadri was a 50-60 points player in 2019-2021 with PP1 time.

 

[BobRossColton]

You don't see a trade? YOU!?!?

Bullshit.

You can envision a trade for Reg Dunlop, and he's a fictional hockey player played by an actor who's been dead 16 years.

You know what I see, us holding onto mitts for the upcoming season as well , then trading Mitts for Crosby, swapping seasons 26-27

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Marcus Petterssson probably getting close to $7M on a long term deal with Vancouver.

I think that's going to be the first real sign of just how crazy the cap is about to get and how good some of these long term deals recently signed are going to look.

For example, Toews at $7.25M is going to look like highway robbery. Mack at $12.6M is going to quickly start to look like his $6.3M deal all over again as well.

Nuke at $6.125M was already great if he could just stay clean and healthy.