Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

[Alienblood]

- Avs holding firm on internal salary cap of MacKinnon
- Rantanen camp could be looking as much as 14M, with the rising salary cap
- There's no indication the Avs are entertaining a possibility of trading Rantanen, there certainly isn't a deadline of if the deal is not done before TDL he would be traded
- Expects talks to pick up during the 4-nations faceoff

trade him !

 

[The Merchant]

 

[dahrougem2]

What is this person getting at? That interview has nothing to do with Pettersson lol

 

[The Merchant]

What is this person getting at? That interview has nothing to do with Pettersson lol

No clue. Just a frustrated Nucks fan I presume. That interview reeks of pre-trade Duchene though

 

[Foppa2118]

This EA Sports style Avs deadline, is the only way I see trading Mikko making sense.

- Mikko + Gulyayev for Svechnikov + Nikishin (Svech is built for the playoffs, and at 24 years old could be a good deal at $7.75M through his prime for the next 4 years)

- Ritchie + Malinksi + 2027 1st for Crosby (asks to be traded to Avs)

- 2026 1st + Behrens for Oleksiak (can play both sides)

- Sign Klingberg

Bring over Nikishin for the playoffs and let him compete with Klingberg for a spot. Mitts, Colton, and Wood are options to move in the off season for assets to shed cap space. Re-sign Crosby to $7M x 3 and Drouin to $5M x 4. Keep Landy and Val. Parsinnen can play 3C if needed.

Drouin - MacK - Lehky
Val - Crosby - Svech
Landy - Mitts - Colton
Wood - Pars - LOC

Toews - Makar
Girard - Manson
Oleksiak - Klingberg

Blackwood
Wedgewood

Extra F - Kivi, Kelly, Innala
Extra D - Nikishin, Middleton, CDH

I believe this is about a $94.5M 20 man roster (CapWages GM mode isn't great) next year with Landy, without Mitts, with Nikishin instead of Klingberg, with Kelly at 4C, and Middleton and a league min F as scratches. They can also move Wood or Colton for assets if needed and keep Mitts at 3C.

Alan Walsh says the cap will go up to $97M. This would give them room to accrue cap space for the deadline again, or run a 21/22 man roster and a ton of injury callups without needing LTIR.

All hinges on whether Crosby wants to be traded, which he probably doesn't. Without him, the Avs downgrade too much. With him, Nate gets another buddy and they can re-sign Drouin to make up for losing Mikko, and they set themselves up to possibly be better this year, and the next few with much needed better depth at forward and D if Nikishin pans out well.

This is the only kind of way moving Mikko makes sense to me. They have to upgrade 2C AND bring in a ppg or near ppg winger with size to replace Mikko AND improve their depth at F and D.

Otherwise you keep Mikko for another Cup run, and let him walk if need be, then replace him with a cheaper UFA like Boeser or Brock Nelson. Would much prefer Boeser. Then trade Mitts or Colton in a package to upgrade 2C.

 

[Avs_19]

Just a quitting miserable ****

 

[dahrougem2]

Just a quitting miserable ****

That's heart, baby!

 

[The Merchant]

That's heart, baby!

He'd fit right in

 

[Avs_19]

Wonder how long this goes on. The longer it does, even the inept Canucks management will realize who should be gone.

Get EP before then…..

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Vancouver has some good pieces. We should try to get them while we can. They are a mess right now.

 

[Hasbro]

- Avs holding firm on internal salary cap of MacKinnon
- Rantanen camp could be looking as much as 14M, with the rising salary cap
- There's no indication the Avs are entertaining a possibility of trading Rantanen, there certainly isn't a deadline of if the deal is not done before TDL he would be traded
- Expects talks to pick up during the 4-nations faceoff

Yeah Frank Servalli has a source in the Avs.

 

[avsfan9]

Mikko for Crosby and Marchand.

 

[The Pwnerer]

I don't even care anymore. Please find a way to get Miller for Mittlestadt +. Our margin for error was so small in a trade and it's looking like Cmac and the pro scouts whiffed on this one. Infuriating we gve up our best trade piece for a guy who turned into a pumpkin overnight.

 

[Deadsy]

Re-sign Crosby to $7M x 3

Crosby already extended with Pens in September, 2 x 8,7M.

 

[John Mandalorian]

The injury situation where two weeks turns into two months is once again a problem. It’s been a recurring theme over recent years.

Without Nichushkin, the Avs don’t have an effective net front presence. Credit to Lehkonen for trying. He has the instinct but not the size muscle. And that’s scary to think about since Nichushkin I one slip up away from being out of the league.

When you think back to the 2022 team, they had three highly functional players in the dirty areas around the net: Landeskog, Kadri, and Nichushkin. Landeskog used to also have a knack for walling off defenders around the crease to create shooting lanes from the blue line. Remember the playoff run when Makar and Manson were scoring from the blue line? That’s non existent these days.

Then of course there’s the aspect of being in position to punch in lose pucks/rebounds. Kadri scored a lot this way. So did Landeskog and Nichushkin. Landeskog and Nichushkin are each also very good at deflections.

The Avs don’t really have that package anymore if Nichushkin is out.

Three guys around the league come to mind (feel free to suggest more): Kreider, Kadri, and Miller.

It might also be affecting the PP. Guys like this tie up defenders and open passing lanes.

 

[Bender]

Yeah Frank Servalli has a source in the Avs.

Yeah that whole seravalli clip screams "I'm 100% talking out of my ass"...

ANYONE on HFBoards could easily come up with these same conservative notions that seem very obvious to even the most average NHL fan :

* he wants the same as drysattle ($14M)
* Avs don't want to give him more than MacKinnon
* Avs won't trade him just because he's going to be a UFA (...because they didn't with Nuke or Lando)

HOW DO YOU DO IT, FRANK ??!?! Wow, what a superstar !!!

"I'll bet my house that Kadri is going to sign with the New York Rangers tomorrow" - frank seravalli

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Yeah Frank Servalli has a source in the Avs.

He’s actually quite close with MacFarland it seems. According to Cmac “they go back”. He’s had him on his DFO podcast and his “Frankly Speaking”.

Lebrun is the gold standard as far as national media goes when it comes to the Avs organization but Seravalli definitely has a little something going with Cmac himself.

 

[Gumballhead]

I don’t think a lot of huge shakeup/top player trades will happen but the dynamite is there waiting to be lit and it could be a bonkers trade season. Get the popcorn.

 

[Bender]

I don’t think a lot of huge shakeup/top player trades will happen but the dynamite is there waiting to be lit and it could be a bonkers trade season. Get the popcorn.

They need to do it. Someone else mentioned it but there are certain players who have won a cup and it seems could maybe be satisfied with that.

I don't think MacKinnon is that guy, I think he wants to keep winning but he IS a guy that can get down if he doesn't feel like the rest of the main core guys are also on-board with playing the way you need to in order to win. Gotta move out the guys who have different motivations and get some guys in here who are hungry to win.

Will make all the difference in the world.

 

[The Abusement Park]

That's heart, baby!

“I f***ing hate when my teammates don’t put in the necessary effort needed to win…

But also it’s different when I don’t put in the necessary effort.”

 

[ABasin]

They need to do it. Someone else mentioned it but there are certain players who have won a cup and it seems could maybe be satisfied with that.

I don't think MacKinnon is that guy, I think he wants to keep winning but he IS a guy that can get down if he doesn't feel like the rest of the main core guys are also on-board with playing the way you need to in order to win. Gotta move out the guys who have different motivations and get some guys in here who are hungry to win.

Will make all the difference in the world.

MacKinnon hasn't looked quite right in awhile either. Still putting up points, because he is who he is. But doesn't look the same.

The team as is, isn't winning anything. They're really looking more and more like 1st round fodder.

 

[hockeyfish]

MacKinnon hasn't looked quite right in awhile either. Still putting up points, because he is who he is. But doesn't look the same.

The team as is, isn't winning anything. They're really looking more and more like 1st round fodder.

Mack looks physically fine, just looks like he's trying to carry the entire team himself.

 

[hockeyfish]

You know what, f*** it, go get JT. I know I said I don’t want anything to do with either him or Peterson, but f*** it, we need a player like him. Add whatever you need to to Mitts to make it work.

 

[Avsfan1921]

You know what, f*** it, go get JT. I know I said I don’t want anything to do with either him or Peterson, but f*** it, we need a player like him. Add whatever you need to to Mitts to make it work.

Not that I’d be against a sizeable shakeup but I don’t think adding another hot temper to this group is the way to fix the problems. Unless he knows how to mind p’s and q’s until he’s established.

We desperately need support players who know hot to play both ends of the ice. O’Connor and lehky types. And better bottom pairing defencemen. And a new powerplay lol.

 

[The Abusement Park]

You know what, f*** it, go get JT. I know I said I don’t want anything to do with either him or Peterson, but f*** it, we need a player like him. Add whatever you need to to Mitts to make it work.

A an overly aggressive teammate who expects his teammates to put in all the hard work but isn't willing to put in the effort he expects? Is that what this team needs?