2024-2025 Tank Thread

[Knight53]

Miller - Pettersson - Lekkerimaki
Debrusk - Hagens - Boeser

Or

Hughes - Hronek
Schaefer - Willander
Pettersson - Mynio

Realistically we could fall down to the 10-13 range. Hoping for Anton Frondell to slip to us. Pettersson/Frondell could be the Swedish version of Barkov/Lundell

 

[Knight53]

Beauty play by Soucy to ice it. What a nice little treat before the new year.

 

[SillyRabbit]

We got too many value contracts at the moment to be selling

Boeser is heating up but the Canucks are unsure if they want to sign him long term for the money he's asking.

So at the deadline, flip him for a 2025 1st round pick and a prospect. Then in the offseason offer Gavrikov 7.5x7M.

We basically trade a top scorer for a top pairing defenceman who immediately becomes the best defensive player in our lineup. He's only 29 so he's right in the middle of his prime.

And we come out with a couple of future pieces that can help us down the road.

We're going to have to give up scoring for defence at some point when it comes to our cap spending and this is a way to do it while also coming out with some assets.

 

[Bobby9]

Alright. I am on team tank officially

I think we have an outside chance of a top 10 pick.

Demko out.
EP 40 poor play.
Back end in shambles.

Looking like a decent prediction

 

[VanJack]

IMac made a good point on the SN 650 post game--pointing out that the next couple of months are crucial to Boeser's future with the Canucks.

If they fall out of contention and Boeser is still unsigned at the TDL, there probably a good chance he gets dealt. A first rounder and another prospect coming back isn't beyond the realm of possibility.

There's no way Allvin would risk losing him for nothing on July 1st.

 

[David71]

BLOW IT UP. sell everyone including demko petey miller. boeser. start fresh. get some picks/prospects. restock the prospect pool.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Oh yeah! Doors open boys!

 

[Lindgren]

Defence for the end-of-season:

Hughes/Willander
Pettersson/Hronek
Mynio/Kudryavtsev

I'd watch.

 

[TruGr1t]

 

[wetcoast]

Even if we’re floundering about halfway into the season, I still see them trading our first rounder, so I don’t see the point of this thread.

Man I sure hope that they don't do that now as I think the playoffs are slipping away quite quickly here.

We rely way too much on Quinn.

 

[wetcoast]

Boeser is heating up but the Canucks are unsure if they want to sign him long term for the money he's asking.

So at the deadline, flip him for a 2025 1st round pick and a prospect. Then in the offseason offer Gavrikov 7.5x7M.

We basically trade a top scorer for a top pairing defenceman who immediately becomes the best defensive player in our lineup. He's only 29 so he's right in the middle of his prime.

And we come out with a couple of future pieces that can help us down the road.

We're going to have to give up scoring for defence at some point when it comes to our cap spending and this is a way to do it while also coming out with some assets.

That's great but how do they even know if they can get Gavikov and does he even want to leave a better climate and hockey team in LA?

The Kings right now have the 4th best record in the West and Doughty hasn't played a single minute yet.

Defence for the end-of-season:

Hughes/Willander
Pettersson/Hronek
Mynio/Kudryavtsev

I'd watch.

You might see Willander as I doubt that the canucks would have the balls to dress 4 rookie Dmen even in a single game.

but you might be able to watch those 4 rookies in Abby.

 

[Lindgren]

That's great but how do they even know if they can get Gavikov and does he even want to leave a better climate and hockey team in LA?

The Kings right now have the 4th best record in the West and Doughty hasn't played a single minute yet.


You might see Willander as I doubt that the canucks would have the balls to dress 4 rookie Dmen even in a single game.

but you might be able to watch those 4 rookies in Abby.

Oh, there's no chance it'll happen. I was just dreaming.

It'd even be highly unlikely to see all four in the line-up in Abby at the same time.

 

[wetcoast]

Oh, there's no chance it'll happen. I was just dreaming.

It'd even be highly unlikely to see all four in the line-up in Abby at the same time.

Yes probably but I share your dream and hope that all 4 pan out as we desperately need at least 2 of them to do so.

 

[Canucks LB]

Man I sure hope that they don't do that now as I think the playoffs are slipping away quite quickly here.

We rely way too much on Quinn.

I made that post a while ago, my opinion has completely changed.

We’re not trading our first until we know what we have here

 

[mriswith]

It's insane that we're in here during a Hart/Norris Hughes year and one of the best seasons by a Canuck ever.

This is like being the Oilers sitting in a tank thread while watching McDavid on an ELC miss the playoffs except that in our case, we've used a bunch of buyouts, signed a bunch of old players and traded a bunch of futures for win now pieces in exchange for the privilege of being in this thread. And our McDavid has a high chance of walking in 3 years.

 

[VanJack]

That's great but how do they even know if they can get Gavikov and does he even want to leave a better climate and hockey team in LA?

The Kings right now have the 4th best record in the West and Doughty hasn't played a single minute yet.


You might see Willander as I doubt that the canucks would have the balls to dress 4 rookie Dmen even in a single game.

but you might be able to watch those 4 rookies in Abby.

Why not? Forbort and Juulsen are impending UFA's and Brannstrom is an RFA. And while Desharnais still has another year on his deal, he's been reportedly on the trade block since the start of the year.

Could easily see a scenario where none of of them are back. So by all means, if the Canucks face-plant the rest of the way, why not throw Wilander, Elias Pettersson II and even Kudryavtsev into the mix?

You can't tell me it can be much worse than what we're seeing on a nightly basis right now.

 

[wetcoast]

Why not? Forbort and Juulsen are impending UFA's and Brannstrom is an RFA. And while Desharnais still has another year on his deal, he's been reportedly on the trade block since the start of the year.

Could easily see a scenario where none of of them are back. So by all means, if the Canucks face-plant the rest of the way, why not throw Wilander, Elias Pettersson II and even Kudryavtsev into the mix?

You can't tell me it can be much worse than what we're seeing on a nightly basis right now.

It might not be worse but it also doesn't work for any length of time assuming that all or any of them are even ready.

Maybe for the guy in the 6th spot with a veteran but rookies playing so high up in the lineup on the back end simply could break some players confidence and for what exactly?

That being said if they all show capability for the task I'd have no problem but my bet is that Tocchet won't go that route.

 

[SillyRabbit]

That's great but how do they even know if they can get Gavikov and does he even want to leave a better climate and hockey team in LA?

The Kings right now have the 4th best record in the West and Doughty hasn't played a single minute yet.

You don't know for sure.

But if you're planning on letting Boeser walk because his contract demands are too high, then you have to flip him for assets.

And if you're trading him to a playoff team making a run, they won't give you back good roster players.

So you take the futures.

And with that cap space, you make the run at Gavrikov. You might have to overpay him a bit (7.5 is already a slight overpayment).

Kings have Kirsanov waiting in the wings. I'm sure they'd much rather bring him over than to commit to Gavrikov long term.

Just gotta hope that the Kings don't trade him at the deadline, which I'd imagine they won't since they'll want to make a playoff run.

 

[wetcoast]

You don't know for sure.

But if you're planning on letting Boeser walk because his contract demands are too high, then you have to flip him for assets.

And if you're trading him to a playoff team making a run, they won't give you back good roster players.

So you take the futures.

And with that cap space, you make the run at Gavrikov. You might have to overpay him a bit (7.5 is already a slight overpayment).

Kings have Kirsanov waiting in the wings. I'm sure they'd much rather bring him over than to commit to Gavrikov long term.

Just gotta hope that the Kings don't trade him at the deadline, which I'd imagine they won't since they'll want to make a playoff run.

Okay that's all fair but a lot depends on what the Canucks do with the Miller/EP40 situation.

I think the Red Wings are a good destination for either player but time will tell, not sure where Boeser would go though.

 

[SillyRabbit]

Okay that's all fair but a lot depends on what the Canucks do with the Miller/EP40 situation.

I think the Red Wings are a good destination for either player but time will tell, not sure where Boeser would go though.

I mean I'd take the Carolina package that seems to still be on the table.

Necas + Kotkaniemi + Morrow + 1st Round Pick for Pettersson.

Even if Necas is not the supernova level player he was at the start of the season, he seems like a good bet to be a PPG player.

Kotkaniemi can be trialled as the #2C and you can load up Necas with Miller. When Lekkermaki is ready to join the club, you can slot him alongside Kotkaniemi or swap him with DeBrusk on the first line.

Morrow gives us another great defensive prospect to go alongside Willander. And the extra 1st rounder is always a nice thing to have in your pocket.

Right now the Canucks are in a very dangerous position where we're so reliant on our top guys.

These changes help balance us out and give us some pieces to work with in the future.

 

[wetcoast]

I mean I'd take the Carolina package that seems to still be on the table.

Necas + Kotkaniemi + Morrow + 1st Round Pick for Pettersson.

Even if Necas is not the supernova level player he was at the start of the season, he seems like a good bet to be a PPG player.

Kotkaniemi can be trialled as the #2C and you can load up Necas with Miller. When Lekkermaki is ready to join the club, you can slot him alongside Kotkaniemi or swap him with DeBrusk on the first line.

Morrow gives us another great defensive prospect to go alongside Willander. And the extra 1st rounder is always a nice thing to have in your pocket.

Right now the Canucks are in a very dangerous position where we're so reliant on our top guys.

These changes help balance us out and give us some pieces to work with in the future.

They probably won't get better value than that package I guess.

 

[Quinning]

If that Canes package is somehow still on the table, you take that and run far away.

 

[VanJack]

I could easily see a scenario where Miller, Boeser and maybe even Demko don't finish the year as Canucks.

One thing is for sure......if Allvin bides his time and is a big-time 'seller' at the TDL, these three guys would net a bounty of picks and prospects.

And in one fell-swoop they'd finally extinguish their cap woes, which have plagued this team since the disastrous Benning years.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I mean I'd take the Carolina package that seems to still be on the table.

Necas + Kotkaniemi + Morrow + 1st Round Pick for Pettersson.

Even if Necas is not the supernova level player he was at the start of the season, he seems like a good bet to be a PPG player.

Kotkaniemi can be trialled as the #2C and you can load up Necas with Miller. When Lekkermaki is ready to join the club, you can slot him alongside Kotkaniemi or swap him with DeBrusk on the first line.

Morrow gives us another great defensive prospect to go alongside Willander. And the extra 1st rounder is always a nice thing to have in your pocket.

Right now the Canucks are in a very dangerous position where we're so reliant on our top guys.

These changes help balance us out and give us some pieces to work with in the future.

Is it really? Because I can't imagine Carolina offers that now with Necas having a better season than Pettersson. Even if they don't think he'll re-sign for whatever reason, my guess is they only do a 1 for 1 swap.

 

[SillyRabbit]

Is it really? Because I can't imagine Carolina offers that now with Necas having a better season than Pettersson. Even if they don't think he'll re-sign for whatever reason, my guess is they only do a 1 for 1 swap.

I'm just basing this off what Hurricanes fans are saying they're open to.

Necas is playing better than Pettersson but you aren't trading for current Pettersson.

You're trading for Pettersson assuming that he will return to form with a new team and new environment.

The Hurricanes need a star C a lot more than they need a star RW. So positionally they'd rather have Pettersson.

Six weeks ago this trade would've been vetoed by many Hurricanes fans, but Necas has come back down to earth (still on pace for a great season) and Pettersson had that solid streak when Miller was out, which reminded people what he can do.

The other offer floated out there is Barzal and Pelech for Pettersson.

I'd rather take the Hurricanes offer, but I wouldn't be too upset with the Islanders one.