Prospect Info: 2024-2025 Rangers Prospects Thread (Prospect Stats in Post #1; Updated 2/3/2025)

[Harbour Dog]

I don't think I've ever seen that before.

 

[noncents]

Does he have any sandpaper to his game?

yup. physical goalmouth player

 

[Dfence033]

I can't speak to what he did in Florida because I don't remember but he barely had any youth to work with in NJ. In fact the one guy who did develop there was Henrique and he was instantly strapped to Parise when he was a rookie. Beyond that who else was there that had even meaningful potential? Larsson? He played. Maybe he didn't develop into the #1 that he was projected to be but that wasn't because he didn't get opportunities.

Tedenby? He blew ass.

Same works for the Sharks who were dead in the middle of the Thornton/Marleau/Burns era. The only really meaningful prospect that came through there while he was there was Timo Meier and he turned out okay (but if a cluster f*** now, but thats well after the fact.) They had a bottom 3 ranked farm annually while he was there and guess what? Meier got his minutes.

You didn't mention Vegas out of what I assume is good faith so I appreciate that.

Quinn was anything but a play the kids coach. He may have come in with the "hope" that he'd be that guy but he ran his bench like a moron. The vets were the upperclassmen who got the majority of the minutes while the younger guys had to "EARN IT" despite the fact that some of the vets were basically journeymen castoffs. Thats the issue, it isn't that they played Zibanejad, Kreider or Panarin (Keeping/ signing those guys is another conversation entirely but they were here- of course they were going to play, those guys were good) it's the prioritization of the other mid ass (or worse) players over your #1 or 2 OA that was the issue. No f*** they didn't show as much, they didn't get the chance.

I don't need to remind you that at one point the Rangers had the top farm in the league. The prioritization should have been given to those guys. One of the biggest arguments made by the pro-Panarin group was that he would help the young kids development. It took 3 coaches and 4 f***ing seasons to get Laf regular shifts with him and when they tried Kakko there Panarin decided that he didn't want to play with him (and Quinn listened, he should have told him to f*** off and that he would play with who ever he said he was going to play with.) The one area where Kakko was any good in his rookie season was on the PP. He got taken off of pp1 for no reason. I don't think any of the HC hires under the current core have been good, but Quinn was by far the worst.

Also Robertson wasn't even in the NHL at 19? What are you even going on about?

Amazing what hindsight will do. Tedenby was one of their top prospects, Larsson was “the next Lidstrom,” among others. It’s why prospect ratings don’t really mean much. But yes, they “played,” much the same way Quinn and Lav “played” Kravstov, Andersson, Kakko, Laf and others. Jones is the only one that might have some more legitimate complaints about not being played, but he’s played 73 games the last three seasons on a team with Cup aspirations and several more key players at his position in front of him. And he scored a whopping 17 points in those games as an all-offense defenseman.

I don’t disagree on Quinn, down to the hope and expectation he was a “good for the kids” coach. And yet, here we are saying how much of a moron he was. Again I say: when multiple NHL coaches do the same things with the same players, at what point is the finger no longer pointed at the “moron” coaches?

That “top ranked” farm system included absolute flameout busts in Kravstov and Andersson. Two who not only got multiple chances in NY, but also on other teams where they also couldn’t cut it. Kakko “the most NHL ready prospect,” the guy more than one “expert” had on par with or exceed Jack Hughes, the one with “no development needs” on his draft day bio, was and is “just a guy.” Oftentimes, these kids get so much hype that anything short of superstardom is then used as a cudgel against the organization and coaches that draft and play them - and more often than not, they just aren’t that good.

And correction: You are right: Robertson was 20, not 19. Sorry.

 

[nyr2k2]

I don't think I've ever seen that before.

I mean you can't see exactly where Dvorsky receives the puck but to me that's looks like a hand pass.

 

[bhamill]

I mean you can't see exactly where Dvorsky receives the puck but to me that's looks like a hand pass.

I don't know that the rules say ANY handoff from the goalie is a "hand pass." Before the rule was changed to allow players to hand pass in their own D zone, goalies were already immune from being penalized for it.