Prospect Info: 2024-2025 Rangers Prospects Thread (Prospect Stats in Post #1; Updated 11/7/2024)

[GoAwayPanarin]

The NCAA will allow CHL players effective August 2025. I don't like it, but it was inevitable.

Hard to justify not allowing it after NIL became a thing.

 

[nyr2k2]

Hard to justify not allowing it after NIL became a thing.

Absolutely. The whole amateur model is dead so there was no reason to be able to prohibit CHL guys.

My fear has always been the impact it will have on the USHL and USA Hockey in general. A lot of guys who played USHL because they wanted to go to college can now go play CHL hockey and then still go to college. A not insignificant amount of American kids will also get pushed out/down by the 19 and 20 year old players leaving the CHL to go the NCAA route. What would have happened to a Noah Laba or a Vic Mancini or their programs brought in a couple highly-rated CHL players each year?

It's really amazing how many variables there are here, including CBA-related stuff. The Athletic published an exhaustive and really informative piece: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/58...adian-hockey-league-college-hockey-explained/

Will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.

 

[Leetch3]

the biggest impact will be to the USHL/BCHL as guys don't need to go there to keep their eligiblity. guys can now go play CHL as 16, 17, 18 year olds and then go to college

 

[Ruggs225]

Absolutely. The whole amateur model is dead so there was no reason to be able to prohibit CHL guys.

My fear has always been the impact it will have on the USHL and USA Hockey in general. A lot of guys who played USHL because they wanted to go to college can now go play CHL hockey and then still go to college. A not insignificant amount of American kids will also get pushed out/down by the 19 and 20 year old players leaving the CHL to go the NCAA route. What would have happened to a Noah Laba or a Vic Mancini or their programs brought in a couple highly-rated CHL players each year?

It's really amazing how many variables there are here, including CBA-related stuff. The Athletic published an exhaustive and really informative piece: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/58...adian-hockey-league-college-hockey-explained/

Will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.

I think more colleges might start having a d1 hockey program since they are revenue generating. But its just a guess.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Absolutely. The whole amateur model is dead so there was no reason to be able to prohibit CHL guys.

My fear has always been the impact it will have on the USHL and USA Hockey in general. A lot of guys who played USHL because they wanted to go to college can now go play CHL hockey and then still go to college. A not insignificant amount of American kids will also get pushed out/down by the 19 and 20 year old players leaving the CHL to go the NCAA route. What would have happened to a Noah Laba or a Vic Mancini or their programs brought in a couple highly-rated CHL players each year?

It's really amazing how many variables there are here, including CBA-related stuff. The Athletic published an exhaustive and really informative piece: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/58...adian-hockey-league-college-hockey-explained/

Will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.

Perhaps would have ended up exactly where they were. I can't imagine CHL kids going to anywhere but the top programs (and the top programs aren't going to want 2nd and 3rd tier CHL kids.)

CC and UNO are hardly top tier programs (CC is dope once in a blue moon, but they're pretty mid-tier most of the time.)

I think more colleges might start having a d1 hockey program since they are revenue generating. But its just a guess.

After seeing the success ASU is having I would be shocked if we don't see a few other west coast schools add a hockey team soon.

 

[nyr2k2]

Perhaps would have ended up exactly where they were. I can't imagine CHL kids going to anywhere but the top programs (and the top programs aren't going to want 2nd and 3rd tier CHL kids.)

CC and UNO are hardly top tier programs (CC is dope once in a blue moon, but they're pretty mid-tier most of the time.)


After seeing the success ASU is having I would be shocked if we don't see a few other west coast schools add a hockey team soon.

That's a fair point and "highly-rated" was a poor choice of words by me. The CHL kids I'm talking about are mainly the productive over-agers. Those guys that right now can either hang around for an OA year in the CHL and dominate or they can try to turn pro and probably play in the ECHL. Those guys will be going to college to showcase themselves and would seem more likely to go to a lesser program if it means a bigger role.

The actual highly-rated prospects will for sure go to the established schools. Or, they'll chase NIL money. That hasn't really become a big thing in college hockey yet but it seems likely that it will be soon.

 

[Ruggs225]

Perhaps would have ended up exactly where they were. I can't imagine CHL kids going to anywhere but the top programs (and the top programs aren't going to want 2nd and 3rd tier CHL kids.)

CC and UNO are hardly top tier programs (CC is dope once in a blue moon, but they're pretty mid-tier most of the time.)


After seeing the success ASU is having I would be shocked if we don't see a few other west coast schools add a hockey team soon.

There are also alot of big 10 teama in the midwest without one.

 

[RangersFan1994]

the biggest impact will be to the USHL/BCHL as guys don't need to go there to keep their eligiblity. guys can now go play CHL as 16, 17, 18 year olds and then go to college

Can the player go back to the CHL route, if they want to play more games than they would in college?

 

[Leetch3]

Can the player go back to the CHL route, if they want to play more games than they would in college?

leaving NCAA to go to the CHL has always been allowed. It was the other way that wasn't cause the NCAA considered CHL players 'pros' and took away their eligibility. that is the part that is changing.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I'm thrilled we are going to get CHL players come to the NCAA. NCAA hockey is going to get much better because of it (sorry CHL). Will easily become the best developmental league for future NHL players (which it probably is already but even more so, excluding the AHL).

 

[cwede]

Can the player go back to the CHL route, if they want to play more games than they would in college?

leaving NCAA to go to the CHL has always been allowed. It was the other way that wasn't cause the NCAA considered CHL players 'pros' and took away their eligibility. that is the part that is changing.

just ahead of Buch and Duke, NYR drafted a guy who did just that
walked away from No Dak for WHL