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A spin-o-rama no look behind the back seam pass that his teammate could walk into---not too much mustard--not too little.....just enough.
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Prospect Info: 2024-2025 Rangers Prospects Thread (Prospect Stats in Post #1; Updated 1/8/2025)
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A spin-o-rama no look behind the back seam pass that his teammate could walk into---not too much mustard--not too little.....just enough.
Leonard’s ability to create space for himself and his line mates with out the puck goes overlooked and is something that always translates from level to level.
I don’t think he’s going to be able to play the same wrecking ball style though I’m sure he’ll try as it’s embedded in his DNA. He is going to need to dial that back a bit if he wants to stay in one piece.
Hell of a player, wish we had him.
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I disagree. Having insane high IQ is what translates to higher levels. Being stronger and creating space is what does not always translate as well to a higher level with bigger and stronger competition.
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More than one thing can translate. Leonard’s speed and some other attributes will translate, will help him create space. He’s also just 19, he will get heavier and stronger. And he’s not playing against 16-20 year olds in juniors, he’s playing against 18-23 year olds. His game will be very similar, stylistically, I’m not saying 1.5ppg of course, in the NHL by the time he is 23 to what he is playing now. Yes dialed back a bit, but I still see him as translating well.
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It was more a general observation about power forward types in lower levels translating. But I do think Leonard translates pretty well to the NHL.
Yeah but the space creating is tied to his IQ. He does things with out the puck and varies his tempo and routes about as well as anyone.
That will carry over. He doesn’t have crazy vision or anything like that (though his passing is underrated) but his IQ is strongest in areas that really suit his style.
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3rd line RW please
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Fair enough.
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legit in the sense that we cabn't write him off as an NHL prospect 3 years into his NCAA career, which is more than we can say for a lot of mid round picks.
I don't think he's pushing a top 10 prospect for us like Laba (Noah's skating is much better), but he'll get a contract and work his way in the AHL from there.
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brody is becoming a wolf in sheeps clothing eh? Ready for the Pack i say
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Ah we are finally in December, which means 25 days until the WJC begins! This year thankfully back in NA with normal start times on the games.
Also featuring the NYE classic, USA vs Canada
Also featuring the NYE classic, USA vs Canada
Lamber had 8 points in 39 games a freshman and 27 in 39 as a sophomore. He's on pace for 44 in 39 games at the moment.
He's also up to 10 goals, when his high was last year with 12. Big change is he has 6 PPG this season when he only had 5 the previous two seasons combined. He's also on pace for 99 shots after recording 73 last season.
I'm still not sure what he is or isn't, but he's showing a nice progression which is really all you can ask for.
EDIT: He leads his team in goals and is third in points, one behind Wood and 3 behind Snuggerud with one game fewer played. These guys were first rounders, so he's in good company with his performance.
He's also up to 10 goals, when his high was last year with 12. Big change is he has 6 PPG this season when he only had 5 the previous two seasons combined. He's also on pace for 99 shots after recording 73 last season.
I'm still not sure what he is or isn't, but he's showing a nice progression which is really all you can ask for.
EDIT: He leads his team in goals and is third in points, one behind Wood and 3 behind Snuggerud with one game fewer played. These guys were first rounders, so he's in good company with his performance.
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We know about % by draft round that make it to the NHL. Is there a stat of what % gets to have a career in the NHL - 300 games?
This is source says a 4th round pick like Lamb has a 12.7% chance to play 300+ games.
Success Rates of NHL Draft Picks - The Hockey Writers NHL Entry Draft Latest News, Analysis & More
Scouting and luck combine to make for a successful draft in the NHL. Here are the success rates of the top 32 picks & each individual round.
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Of course, that uses data going back to the 1963 amateur draft which I think was only four rounds anyway, LOL. And would I include the 1974 draft that had 20+ rounds (I think it just went until no one wanted to pick anymore). So it's hard to get data based on real comparables unless you only go back 20 years or something.
Anyway, everything I've seen has usually had "chances of being an NHL player" with whatever they use as their definition at something between 5-10% for guys taken in the fourth round and later (with there not being a huge difference between the fourth and later rounds).
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Lamb has really done everything that was hoped the day that he was drafted. Pretty impressive freshman season on a stacked Minnesota team where he also learned and grew as a solid 2-way player. Sophomore year where he started to exert his will on a frequent basis as well as developed physically which was a major flaw at the time of the draft. Junior season where he is continuing to grow offensively and physically.
Lamb always had very good skill but he was a prototypical project in the mid rounds, not because his skill wouldn’t translate but because he was so underdeveloped physically and had only played high school hockey going in to his draft. Harder to project that to the NHL.
I’m fairly high on Lamb in general, even going back to his freshman year where he was often able to make a difference all over the ice while clearly being a toothpick compared to the upper classmen. Generally when I see a player able to do that based on the outline at the time of the draft, they can grow to be an effective player who at least deserves an ELC.
At this point, I’m cautiously optimistic that we are watching a future top-9 RWer who’s just solid all around.
Add him to the LONG list of recent mid-round picks the Rangers have made who are not only developing well but have very solid protectable skill-bases to fill out the future roster. Laba, Mancini, Lamb, Chmelar, Berard, Fortescue, Sykora, Rempe, Edstrom, BMB, Roobreck. That’s beyond solid
Lamb always had very good skill but he was a prototypical project in the mid rounds, not because his skill wouldn’t translate but because he was so underdeveloped physically and had only played high school hockey going in to his draft. Harder to project that to the NHL.
I’m fairly high on Lamb in general, even going back to his freshman year where he was often able to make a difference all over the ice while clearly being a toothpick compared to the upper classmen. Generally when I see a player able to do that based on the outline at the time of the draft, they can grow to be an effective player who at least deserves an ELC.
At this point, I’m cautiously optimistic that we are watching a future top-9 RWer who’s just solid all around.
Add him to the LONG list of recent mid-round picks the Rangers have made who are not only developing well but have very solid protectable skill-bases to fill out the future roster. Laba, Mancini, Lamb, Chmelar, Berard, Fortescue, Sykora, Rempe, Edstrom, BMB, Roobreck. That’s beyond solid
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Emery stats not looking good even for a defensive dman. How has he been? Defensively responsible? Used on the PK? Have not heard much from him yet although hes a rookie in college. Hope he is playing well and getting enough ice time.
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you're right he's a bum get rid of him
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I am just shocked I have heard about some of the other college prospects but not much of Emery. As long as he is playing well and defensively responsible, that is all that matters although I am shocked by the lack of assists and I just hope he is getting enough ice time. That is important for his progression.
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ESPN+ doesn't have NCHC games, so I can't watch him. Just looking at the ice time, they seem to use 5 dmen mostly:
The other 2 dmen have played 11+ minutes per game.
He's going to be on the USA WJC team, so we'll get a good look at him then.
Ya think that 100% of this sport is played on ice that the organization would put more stock into drafting and trading for players that can actually skate well?
