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Carolina's ineptitude in ECFs kinda screams for scrapping this playoff format. What's the point of RiVArIEs if it's always gonna be a walk over in the most important games?
 
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Wasn't a great start from Carolina, but it wasn't that surprising either. You see it all the time when one team has had 6 days off and the other 1 or 2. If the Canes get rolled again in G2, then things look dire, but this result doesn't mean the series is lost for them.
 
JTBF81 said:
Wasn't a great start from Carolina, but it wasn't that surprising either. You see it all the time when one team has had 6 days off and the other 1 or 2. If the Canes get rolled again in G2, then things look dire, but this result doesn't mean the series is lost for them.
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The problem for Carolina is they're not better than Florida when they just play the "Carolina offensive cycle, stifling defense" style, and they certainly won't be better than Florida if they try to play the Panthers' "old time hockey, physical forecheck wave after wave" style either. They'd need Bobrovsky to go full Game 1 and Game 2 of the Leafs series to really have a shot IMHO.
 
JTBF81 said:
Wasn't a great start from Carolina, but it wasn't that surprising either. You see it all the time when one team has had 6 days off and the other 1 or 2. If the Canes get rolled again in G2, then things look dire, but this result doesn't mean the series is lost for them.
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Problem is that a 4-day gap between games (Carolina's last game was Thursday, so they had Fri-Mon with no games, just practice and rest) isn't necessarily common during the regular season but it also isn't unheard of. We had a full week between games in November as well as a 4-day gap and a 3-day gap this season (not counting the 4 Nations pause), it shouldn't seem like that gap should be long enough to knock you out of rhythm.

It's that old cliché about "scoring first" all over again. Like we didn't hear enough about it during the last two games in Toronto recently. 2023 wasn't that long ago, we know how that series went. The worst thing to happen for the 'Canes was giving up the first goal. They could barely score a goal in that series, and now they're chasing the game once again.

Florida is what we thought our Cup winning teams were, which was shut the hell down and win games in the 3rd period if we have the lead. Between 2020-2022, we had eight games (out of 68 total, 11.8%) where a 3rd period lead either led to OT or a regulation loss. We lost five games from 3rd period leads. With Florida, I can only count five games since 2023 (out of 58 total, 8.7%) where a 3rd period lead eventually ended up in OT, and go figure they won every single one of those OT games. However it happens, when they have a 3rd period lead, it turns into a win 100% of the time. You'd like to think this will end at some point - they're something ridiculous like 15-2 in their last 17 OT playoff games while we're 1-11 or something atrocious like that - but that just seems like hoping for something because you don't like what's happening rather than anything actually based on anything, I dunno.
 
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Kramer Industries said:
Problem is that a 4-day gap between games (Carolina's last game was Thursday, so they had Fri-Mon with no games, just practice and rest) isn't necessarily common during the regular season but it also isn't unheard of. We had a full week between games in November as well as a 4-day gap and a 3-day gap this season (not counting the 4 Nations pause), it shouldn't seem like that gap should be long enough to knock you out of rhythm.

It's that old cliché about "scoring first" all over again. Like we didn't hear enough about it during the last two games in Toronto recently. 2023 wasn't that long ago, we know how that series went. The worst thing to happen for the 'Canes was giving up the first goal. They could barely score a goal in that series, and now they're chasing the game once again.

Florida is what we thought our Cup winning teams were, which was shut the hell down and win games in the 3rd period if we have the lead. Between 2020-2022, we had eight games (out of 68 total, 11.8%) where a 3rd period lead either led to OT or a regulation loss. We lost five games from 3rd period leads. With Florida, I can only count five games since 2023 (out of 58 total, 8.7%) where a 3rd period lead eventually ended up in OT, and go figure they won every single one of those OT games. However it happens, when they have a 3rd period lead, it turns into a win 100% of the time. You'd like to think this will end at some point - they're something ridiculous like 15-2 in their last 17 OT playoff games while we're 1-11 or something atrocious like that - but that just seems like hoping for something because you don't like what's happening rather than anything actually based on anything, I dunno.
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Tampa was knocked out of rhythm all the time after having more than 3 days off, both regular season and during some playoff series (the '22 gap between sweeping Florida and then the ECF against the Rangers after a break is just one example). It's no guarantee of course that it was the main reason they lost, or that they'll bounce back, but losing rhythm after 5 days off isn't all that surprising. Florida is a good team, and may just be better. G2 will tell a lot. If the Canes lose again on home ice, it'll likely be a quick series, but if they show up and even it up, it could still go either way.
 
Kramer Industries said:
Problem is that a 4-day gap between games (Carolina's last game was Thursday, so they had Fri-Mon with no games, just practice and rest) isn't necessarily common during the regular season but it also isn't unheard of. We had a full week between games in November as well as a 4-day gap and a 3-day gap this season (not counting the 4 Nations pause), it shouldn't seem like that gap should be long enough to knock you out of rhythm.

It's that old cliché about "scoring first" all over again. Like we didn't hear enough about it during the last two games in Toronto recently. 2023 wasn't that long ago, we know how that series went. The worst thing to happen for the 'Canes was giving up the first goal. They could barely score a goal in that series, and now they're chasing the game once again.

Florida is what we thought our Cup winning teams were, which was shut the hell down and win games in the 3rd period if we have the lead. Between 2020-2022, we had eight games (out of 68 total, 11.8%) where a 3rd period lead either led to OT or a regulation loss. We lost five games from 3rd period leads. With Florida, I can only count five games since 2023 (out of 58 total, 8.7%) where a 3rd period lead eventually ended up in OT, and go figure they won every single one of those OT games. However it happens, when they have a 3rd period lead, it turns into a win 100% of the time. You'd like to think this will end at some point - they're something ridiculous like 15-2 in their last 17 OT playoff games while we're 1-11 or something atrocious like that - but that just seems like hoping for something because you don't like what's happening rather than anything actually based on anything, I dunno.
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Tampa was also quite good in OT playoff games before the current poor stretch, so I won't put much stock into OT records. They, like Tampa was during their 3 peat attempt, have been very good at closing with 3rd period leads, which is a more telling stat imo. Game 1 doesn't decide a series though, so hopefully, the Canes can put it behind them and get a better start (and result) to G2. ,
 
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Tampa was also quite good in OT playoff games before the current poor stretch, so I won't put much stock into OT records. They, like Tampa was during their 3 peat attempt, have been very good at closing with 3rd period leads, which is a more telling stat imo. Game 1 doesn't decide a series though, so hopefully, the Canes can put it behind them and get a better start (and result) to G2. ,
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Obviously this will be my hope too, unfortunately Carolina has earned absolutely zero benefit of the doubt based on past performances. There's a better chance (in my view) of another Florida sweep than Carolina winning this series. I'm daring Carolina to prove my skepticism wrong for once. I've called them frauds for years and every single year they proved me right.
 
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Tampa was also quite good in OT playoff games before the current poor stretch, so I won't put much stock into OT records. They, like Tampa was during their 3 peat attempt, have been very good at closing with 3rd period leads, which is a more telling stat imo. Game 1 doesn't decide a series though, so hopefully, the Canes can put it behind them and get a better start (and result) to G2. ,
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When your depth gets worse, specifically after losing Gourde/Coleman/Goodrow, you're more susceptible in OT due to the long change, getting tired after getting pinned in, leading to a bad change and or penalty, which we've seen multiple times. The Rielly goal in Game 3 of the 2023 Toronto series was just Vasilevskiy being bad blocker side as has been common.
 
Stars will be able to take the turds on handedly, Edmonton at the end of the day is a 2 man team, Dallas has the size to protect themselves against the turds also.
 
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When your depth gets worse, specifically after losing Gourde/Coleman/Goodrow, you're more susceptible in OT due to the long change, getting tired after getting pinned in, leading to a bad change and or penalty, which we've seen multiple times. The Rielly goal in Game 3 of the 2023 Toronto series was just Vasilevskiy being bad blocker side as has been common.
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Tampa was never going to be able to keep those guys together, unfortunately. They still have had, mostly anyway, decent 3rd line guys the last few years. Of course nothing like those two years, but that kind of lineup isn't sustainable for any team for very long. Maybe Tampa will get some more ltir magic next year, where a key expensive player is out until just after playoffs start, but not so long that it damages the team's playoff chances. The Mark Stone/Matt Tkachuk/Patrick Kane special, and not the Kuch variety where a whole season or half season is lost. Florida's roster, while it still would've been good, would've been considerably less so without significant ltir room this season.
 
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Sky04 said:
Stars will be able to take the turds on handedly, Edmonton at the end of the day is a 2 man team, Dallas has the size to protect themselves against the turds also.
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Oilers brought them to Game 7 from 3-0 down last year and they're a better team this year. Dispatching of Las Vegas (IMO the best team in the West) in 5 with three road wins isn't something to take lightly. It would also mean having beaten Dallas two years in a row.

I'm fine with either, on their own I personally prefer Edmonton since I'd rather they win the Cup over all remaining teams, but I do think either would be tough for Florida (and Florida would be tough on them in return, as you would expect).
 
Kramer Industries said:
Oilers brought them to Game 7 from 3-0 down last year and they're a better team this year. Dispatching of Las Vegas (IMO the best team in the West) in 5 with three road wins isn't something to take lightly. It would also mean having beaten Dallas two years in a row.

I'm fine with either, on their own I personally prefer Edmonton since I'd rather they win the Cup over all remaining teams, but I do think either would be tough for Florida (and Florida would be tough on them in return, as you would expect).
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If we're talking about a better team from this year from last it's Dallas by a mile.
 
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Dallas is a half step slow...(97 and 29 are making their D look silly.

On an unrelated note, how bout that bimbette behind DeBoer. Ample, but not happy.
 
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Honest question why is the nhl allowing the repeat offenders ont he panthers to elbow players in the after the whistle? They knocked out Hagel with it, they knocked Storlz out with it, and they tried to knock outs Blakes last game?
 
At some point you have to suspend the guy who's clearly coaching them to do that. This is Marc Crawford all over again.
 
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