wayninja
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Exactly. It may take 3 or 4 seasons, but we'll get that one year deal out of him
Injury Report: 2024-2025 Injury thread | HF’s Longest Thread Just Got Longer
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Exactly. It may take 3 or 4 seasons, but we'll get that one year deal out of him
forsbergavs32
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He missed 15 games when he was day to day. Week to week sounds like we might see Landy return before we see Drouin again lol
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Foppa2118
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I don't know if this had anything to do with his injury, but every game it seems the opposition goes out of their way to take runs at Drouin. Been that way since at least he got here. I'm not sure why.
He's an effective player to target physically, but they run him more than guys like Mikko or even Nate.
Even ERod the other game took a late shot at him that forced Jo to get up slowly and then give him an uncharacteristic hard shove in the back out of anger.
He's an effective player to target physically, but they run him more than guys like Mikko or even Nate.
Even ERod the other game took a late shot at him that forced Jo to get up slowly and then give him an uncharacteristic hard shove in the back out of anger.
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On the ice skating, or on the ice writhing around in pain?
Yeah you're not the first to wonder if maybe it's time to take a mental health break.
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Bill Peckerskull
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I'll never understand blaming trainers/doctors for players getting hurt during games.
That's like blaming the repairman after you crash your car.
That's like blaming the repairman after you crash your car.
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You can't blame a repairman if you crash your car. However, if you crash your car and bring it to a shop so they will fix it for you, then drive away and the wheel comes off on a highway and you crash again, is that your fault or the mechanic's fault?
Maybe it's just bad luck. Maybe the altitude effects recovery time. Maybe the staff misdiagnoses our players and gives them wrong instructions how to rehab? Who knows.
Cypher
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So if you bring your car to the repair shop for engine work, and 4 days/games after using it, the engine is broken again, you don't blame the mechanic?
The conditioning staff and medical staff are definitely sus and should be re-evaluated.
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Better analysis IMO would be to try and figure out what the root cause is.
Perhaps you have a high octane engine/playing style that comes with the downside of things frequently breaking?
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Why? Their answers are appropriate for your post.
No one is blaming the trainers for Drouin getting hurt. What's questionable is how it was handled after he got hurt.
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Got hurt mid game in game 1 but he got the green light to finish the game regardless.
He missed the following 15 games.
Then he gets the green light to come back, plays top minutes for a couple of games, finds out that the issue is still there.
Back to IR, week to week.
These Avs trainers have a looooooong history of shit like that.
Foppa2118
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Not sure the last part is true. @expatriatedtexan mentioned recently that it used to be the opposite, that we used to complain about players being held out too long. That matches my recollection as well.
The coach and the players have a role in when they come back too. It also correlates with Bednar often having shorter initial timelines for their return than what they have.
Also correlates with their frequent injuries in general. Don't think we know enough to blame the trainers for players getting re-injured. We don't even know IF he got re-injured. Could be something new.
We essentially know nothing about how the trainers do their job, and most of us aren't really qualified to know if they're doing something wrong anyway. We need to know a lot more than nothing to conclude it's the trainers fault.
I just have a hard time believing the injuries are the trainers fault anyway. Maybe one, or a few guys, that could make sense. But not this many injuries for years or decades.
That would take not just a bad trainer, but a complete hack moron attending to their injuries that has no idea what they're doing, and that's just not someone the Avs would employ for this long, let alone hire in the first place.
The cause is elsewhere IMO. Personally, I think it's their high tempo playing style they've always employed, that has increased even more under Bednar. I believe his teams have a history of injuries too.
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@henchman21 gave me some stats a bit ago and we talked briefly on the speed bursts the Avs have. They run away with the league lead. I was surprised to find that our overall speed wasn't necessarily tops. Don't get me wrong we play with speed, but others do just as well, it's just the bursts that set us apart.
I could see this being the issue if everyone was dropping from groin issues maybe? But JD's upper body injury likely has little to do with this. In fact, I can't think of a single injury this year that would be due to this unless I am seriously overlooking something which is not unheard of, either.
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Keep crashing your car folks, job security for me
SirLoinOfCloth
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The problem with blaming training staff for in-game returns is that often the adrenaline masks symptoms of serious injury and so the player returns to the ice. Also, it could be that they were fine to return but tweaked something and made it worse playing on.
The trainers can only go on what they see and what they are told. If the player is a competitive mofo and just wants to be on the ice then the trainer may not even know the true extent of an injury during the game.
The trainers can only go on what they see and what they are told. If the player is a competitive mofo and just wants to be on the ice then the trainer may not even know the true extent of an injury during the game.
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