Speculation: 2024-2025 General Lightning Discussion I

[Point21]

still feel like he would be a solid fit here and shouldnt cost much in a trade

 

[Felonious Python]

I definitely think scouting staffs either overcomplicate things or just simply don't pick the right archetype of prospects. I don't really understand the point of drafting players with low ceiling but high probibility of becoming an NHLer, it seems like those are the type of players that most teams just end up getting through free agency anyway. For CSB I think it has gotten better especially since more games are being broadcasted and in better camera quality over the years so their more recent stuff is probably more accurate. I really like EPrinkside's lists.

It depends on where in the draft they're taken. If it's late in the second round, then a likely, though unspectacular, NHLer can be the right move.

Taking a guy like that in the first round doesn't make much sense, unless the team thinks there's actually more potential there.


Strategic drafting probably pulls more players into their consensus placement than they should. The guy a team would have taken early doesn't seem to have the juice, so they try to get them with a later pick.

 

[Point21]

 

[LTIR Trickery]

Having been a FloHockey subscriber for a few years, it's the rinks/teams not prioritizing the investment. FloHockey is like YouTube. It's a platform.

Well, its a problem for various reasons, but that one for sure. Its a lack of investment from the league and its teams as well.

 

[LordStanlersCup]

It depends on where in the draft they're taken. If it's late in the second round, then a likely, though unspectacular, NHLer can be the right move.

Taking a guy like that in the first round doesn't make much sense, unless the team thinks there's actually more potential there.


Strategic drafting probably pulls more players into their consensus placement than they should. The guy a team would have taken early doesn't seem to have the juice, so they try to get them with a later pick.

Idk the fact that players like Luke Misa and Justin Poirer can make it to the 5th round without being drafted feels kinda crazy to me. There are usually like 5 or so projected 1st round players that make it to the 2nd and then like 10 projected 2nd rounders that make it to the 3rd and it looking back on these players they are hits a decent amount of the time with Point being one of them.

 

[ccman68]

*talks about useless players on PTO

*suggests Groshev on the top line

Lmao

i suggested giving him a chance. even sheary looked good at times playing with point and kuch so i think it makes sense that we should let some of our top prospects play with them and see if they can handle it.

but you are probably right that we should keep doing what we did with verhaeghe and marchessault and just play these guys on the 4th line because there’s no way any of our prospects are good.

 

[Felonious Python]

Idk the fact that players like Luke Misa and Justin Poirer can make it to the 5th round without being drafted feels kinda crazy to me. There are usually like 5 or so projected 1st round players that make it to the 2nd and then like 10 projected 2nd rounders that make it to the 3rd and it looking back on these players they are hits a decent amount of the time with Point being one of them.

I'll admit I'm being a bit of a handful right now.

There are a million factors that go into how the draft actually plays out. Every team has their list, their perspectives on players, draft strategy, character, injury status, eventual development, the existence of overagers and re-entries, etc.

I'm more so focused on the consensus in the first two-ish rounds for 'safe' picks, relative to their spot, as opposed to being the chaos team picking the 136th ranked European player early in the second round. Stuff like that. Wild swings make sense later in the draft, but why not earlier?

 

[barriers]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836459855508279776

 

[Felonious Python]

 

[Felonious Python]

 

[Point21]

Looks like we are getting the Ad patch on the jerseys next year. YMCA on the Home jersey and Advent Health on the Away jersey

 

[Point21]

 

[Felonious Python]

This all could probably get moved to the Water Street/Arena thread.

They're freezing food prices.

I saw some sort of survey of arenas, and Amalie had more expensive hot dogs than Madison Square Garden. It occurred to me today that it might have to do with the prevalence of NYC hot dog carts.

 

[Point21]

 

[Point21]

 

[Felonious Python]

TBL seem to be shifting their video more towards YouTube. At least making it available there.

I think that's a good thing. Meet people where they're at instead of putting everything on NHL.com.

 

[Master P]

Thought this was a nice picture of Heddy.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1837287258308665854

 

[Hollel]

hey guys, saw Raddysh was being used early in camp in what looks like more of a 6/7 type role. I know it’s very early but would ya’ll expect him to be a rotational guy going forward or still being a lineup mainstay/ PP2 guy? -asking as a concerned deep dynasty league owner lol

 

[Felonious Python]

hey guys, saw Raddysh was being used early in camp what looks like more of a 6/7 type role. I know it’s very early but would ya’ll expect him to be a rotational guy going forward or still being a lineup mainstay/ PP2 guy? -asking as a concerned deep dynasty league owner lol

There's a good chance that the lines right now are geared towards special teams.

 

[Point21]

hey guys, saw Raddysh was being used early in camp in what looks like more of a 6/7 type role. I know it’s very early but would ya’ll expect him to be a rotational guy going forward or still being a lineup mainstay/ PP2 guy? -asking as a concerned deep dynasty league owner lol

i dont see these D Pairings staying the same, I think it will look more like this :

Hedman-Raddysh
McDonagh-Cernak
Moser-Perbix
Lilleberg-Crozier

PP1 will have Hedman
PP2 will have Raddysh and maybe Moser split time if they want to try a different look

 

[These Are The Days]

hey guys, saw Raddysh was being used early in camp in what looks like more of a 6/7 type role. I know it’s very early but would ya’ll expect him to be a rotational guy going forward or still being a lineup mainstay/ PP2 guy? -asking as a concerned deep dynasty league owner lol

Hard to say on special teams. He might get unit 2. He's got the offensive skill for it. At even strength, as long as he plays with Hedman he should be fine. But that's such an empty statement. That applies to basically everyone.

 

[Point21]

 

[Felonious Python]

Last season was Stamkos in the left circle. Kuch in the right circle. Hagel often played netfront.

I asked EE if they are preferring one side of the ice over the other, but based on handedness, I'd think that they'd still be sticking mostly to the right. Guentzel is a lefty and Point is a righty. They're still set up to feed the left circle (Kuch).

 

[Point21]

 

[Felonious Python]

update:


I don't think that the PP will be as reliant on a single shooter, like Stamkos was, but if we're preferring the left side of the ice, that's a big change.