Maybe they just aren't hungry any more. I dunno. Blowing it up is wishful thinking though. It's not as easy as it sounds unless you're literally trying to tank and have an empty arena on purpose.
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You also need your 1sts if you wanna start over and we don’t have those for two more years
Stammertime91
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I question this too... the shot they showed of Kuch taping his stick during the second intermission in game 1 was like a little kid in his own world preparing for a hockey 101 lesson lol. I do wonder how hungry they are as a group. The core, or at least what remains that was here during the b2b runs are 2x champs and pretty much each has significant history and hardware. Tough to replicate that kind of buy in especially when the supporting cast are guys that really haven't been deep except maybe once in their careers. Difficult to gauge but I'm sure there's an element of that too. Oh well. Kind of over the sulking and what not.
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Injection of youth (edit: for the bottom 6) can help in a situation where there is a lack of hunger.
In hindsight it would have been nice to see Howard right now so we could find out if he was NHL ready.
In hindsight it would have been nice to see Howard right now so we could find out if he was NHL ready.
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Stammertime91
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Probably not the pearly gates reservoir of good takes, but the Lightning reddit degenerates are on some pretty good takes over there. Very much on the same page with regards to roster makeup and identifiable problems. Cant believe I probably agree with them... lol.
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I think we also have to accept that Florida is just REALLY good. They sleepwalked through the reg season the same way we did in the second cup year. The reg season just doesn't mean much these days.
This is a core that can’t beat Florida or Toronto anymore. If we’re good with just selling tickets and reminiscing about good times, then sure. Run it back. I believe a material shakeup of the roster is needed. Again, I don’t want to blow it up but go to Point and tell him we need a list. Sounds harsh, I get it. Desperate times, desperate measures
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We'll have some cap space, and can possibly rework the bottom six again into a harder, physical group in free agency.
Those guys will get overpaid, especially as there's a lack of star power this year, but that's what's out there.
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The two best goal differentials in team history over an 82-game season (this would still be true even if 2019-'20 had played to its conclusion) were +89 in the 2018-'19 season and +77 this year.
0-6 in the playoffs thus far between those two teams.
0-6 in the playoffs thus far between those two teams.
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Didn't like Eyssimont taking bad penalties but this is the type of series he would make an impact in. Kinda wish we kept him.
The biggest indicator that we're content with past success and just going through the motions is winning one home playoff game out of our last nine. At this point it's about having respect for the fans that show up, pay good money, only to go home annoyed after yet another home playoff loss. Under Cooper we've played poorly at home in the playoffs (and to start a series), but this latest losing trend of eight out of nine is just absurd. That, to me, confirms the desire is no longer there. If they no longer care, I no longer care.
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Both are high offense and one dimensional. It's easy to see. We suppressed the idea we wouldn't get curb stomped because we like a few guys in the bottom 6 but the defense is a mess and 50% of the forward group can't make an offensive play.
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We are for sure being outclassed in just about every facet of the game right now. Panthers are the Bolts of a few years ago. They have a really heavy forecheck, smothering defense, they're fast, and tenacious. We have obviously taken a step back.
Someone noted that maybe the core guys just aren't as interested anymore. I'll parallel that with myself; I watched every Lightning game every season until they won the b2b. Ever since? Much muuuuuch fewer games. Just not as "fun" or "magical" anymore; it's hard to describe. So I would imagine the guys with all of their hardware who have done this every year of their pro careers just about, maybe they feel a little bit of that too, unconsciously.
Someone noted that maybe the core guys just aren't as interested anymore. I'll parallel that with myself; I watched every Lightning game every season until they won the b2b. Ever since? Much muuuuuch fewer games. Just not as "fun" or "magical" anymore; it's hard to describe. So I would imagine the guys with all of their hardware who have done this every year of their pro careers just about, maybe they feel a little bit of that too, unconsciously.
Hockeyville USA
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Hagel is the only one who looks like he cares every game, big reason is that he's always tenacious and he's never won a Cup.
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To say that Kuch aint hungry anymore is a nonsense. Yes he should play better and find a way to score (wow heard that hes last PO goal was in game 1 against TOR) I dont know what happend with core but they can and should play better, but lack of hunger is not an issue its something else
Hockeyville USA
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He's hungry, but once he gets frustrated & can't get himself out of it easily, he pouts for awhile. Bad trend for sure
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I remember him being frustrated at 2019 and now its a different stages of frustration
, althrough it sukcs that he cant keep his emotion low and just do his thing no matter what
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This offseasson JBB really needs to work. Enough with SHeary ATkinsons Girgs signings, He did really good job, he found us Hagel, Paul,stole Hagel with this contract,kinda found good and cheap replacement6 for Sergy, even though Moser scuks last couple of months,but after such an injury he cant be blame. But this offseason will be crucial. He needs to bring those last crucial pieces, like he done when he brang Maroon, to lineup, just to give this team chance to open window for awhile. Actually he needs to adjust 4th line hope that Geekie will have breakout and Gage wil make step forward,resign GOurde for reasonable contract and well be fine. But I also hope that he somewhow finds someone who will blossom in top 6
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Losing Hagel for a game or two would be the nail in the coffin. He's bringing the fire and with Celery hurt, we're in bad, bad shape.
Love my hockey team.
Hate what they are doing to my liver.
Love my hockey team.
Hate what they are doing to my liver.
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This
"Love my hockey team"
They are the best words we can right now, and like everytime. Despite everything we love our hockey team, with all frustration its easy to forget that easy thing.
Go Bolts!
PS. about liver. I would be an alcocholic and die like 3 years ago If I could watch all Lightning PO games live since 2019
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